What PGL has to do with CPK? Nothing. Well then you clearly have no idea how things are run in Poland. PGL is owned by the Gov and therefore so is LOT, CPK is a Gov project so it too is run by the Gov. All decisions are based on politics not rational business thinking. Why do you say abysmal progre...
Jump to postA lot of stupid posts by people who have no clue what they are talking about in this thread. To me, I see two facts: 1. PGL made a stupid costly investment that makes no sense, because there was an opportunity and they had no clear strategy from the beginning as the group is run by utter morons who ...
Jump to postMCTSET wrote:So is QR cargo going to be an all 777F airline, will be really interesting a lot like aerologic.
YYZORD wrote:What QR should do is do a codeshare agreement with AC or WS instead of Interline, maybe then QR can expand more into Canada like TK due to their *A codeshare with AC
Of course don't block it, but reduce recline on shorthaul by 50% and keep full recline on longhaul.
Jump to postLOT posted on instagram that their next 787-9 (SP-LSG) is out of the paint shop, and will be joining the fleet soon. Is this LOT's first Dreamliner built in Charleston? Yes indeed it will be the first frame built in Charleston, hopefully their production quality has improved by now. On another note...
Jump to postLong time I didn't visit this thread, good to see that MalevTU134 is still the grumpy pessimist contributing nothing of value to this thread. On a more positive note good to see LOT continuing to expand, now with the Visa free travel one can expect a significant boost in demand for USA flights. SFO ...
Jump to postSo to sum up LOT's expansion at BUD: Prague (2x daily) E195 Sofia (daily) E195 Belgrade (daily) E195 Stuttgart (daily) E195 Seoul (3 weekly) B788 Effective 30.03.2020 The frames that LOT is going to base at BUD will for sure be the more recently acquired second hand E195's and the older B787-8s, lik...
Jump to postA B787-8 reg SP-LRD is back in service after nearly a year of sitting on the ground. That leaves two 787-8 still out of action: SP-LRB since 04 Jun 19 SP-LRH since 28 Dec 18 The airline seems to take a while to replace those engines, are they still such an issue for other carriers? Source: https://w...
Jump to postLOT has added a fifth 738 to help cover the grounded MAX aircraft. An ex-NewGen Airways, SP-LWE has started operating for the carrier since the 14th of July and is still wearing its previous owners livery.
Jump to postMHG wrote:
But - this announcement that they start flying to Molde from oct 28 makes me wonder where the "market" is.
That actually looks pretty terrible for high season, especially ORD (which by the way had something like a 28% LF in Feb!). My guess is, as soon as they get the permit to fly to ICN from BUD, they will close down the ORD route, but probably keep JFK. Yes ORD looks pretty bad I expect them to discon...
Jump to postFound some data on how LOT was doing in Budapest long-haul wise in 2018. As we can see the high season was quite decent for LOT however there is still a lot of seasonality and the LF drops significantly outside of the Summer. Mind you that last year LOT had major problems with their 787s and the air...
Jump to postWhat has to be considered is that this airport won't be operational for another 10-15 years by which time the Polish market will have grown substantially. However, I think it is a bit too ambitious and more of a pipe dream of the current government. Poland will hold general elections this year and i...
Jump to postGuys, do you have any data on LOT's load factors, across their overall network and the European one? It seems they don't publish any usefull traffic statistics. Firstly, welcome to the forum (or rather first post). Unfortunately as a government owned airline LOT picks and chooses what data it publi...
Jump to postIt doesnt take a genius to figure out this is a bad idea. You're talking about feed (read lower yielding traffic vs. O&D) to prop up a market which last time around was probably in the 30-40 PDEW range (on a good day). I didnt know you screen scrapped native and OTA distribution channels to qua...
Jump to postDo you mind sharing with us an average fare one way from Europe to Vietnam? I'll give you a hint, it's not great. First of all I never said that Vietnam flights are potentially huge money makers or will have high yields. What I said was that last time LOT tried the route it was operated by an old i...
Jump to postUnless I am mistaken, the last attempt at HAN was, what...3 years ago? 4 maybe? It started in 2010 and went on for a few years with disastrous results, as far as I remember Yes you are mistaken like with most of the senseless negative posts you make. Hanoi was abandoned in 2012, that is 7 years ago...
Jump to postSo, they didn't lose enough money in Vietnam the last time around? They are hellbent to lose more? Ah a reply from the guy who is stuck in the past again, did it ever occur to you that both countries have evolved in the mean time and previously the flight was operated by a 767? Or does time stand s...
Jump to postThey will order more; they just do it in batches. 787-10s were thought about, maybe they will come by?? Who knows. As for routes, BKK & SGN are in the works for sure. Today they announced flights to Daxing, the new airport in Beijing making their total flights to Beijing 1x daily (they will spl...
Jump to postWhere will they get the plane for the Daixing flights? Are they getting some more delivered? In September they take delivery of one more 789, but that one was already taken into account, when planning the winter season (in particular on 11th Sept they start New Dehli route 5x weekly). Further deliv...
Jump to postDoes anyone know when these will be joining the fleet? Also, I wonder if some will go to Budapest or if all will be based in Warsaw. As I wrote in the post, 2 are already flying and 1 more will most likely join before the end of the month. Right now LOT needs all the E195s at WAW due to the Max gro...
Jump to postLOT is adding to its fleet: E195 SP-LNN - another ex-Azul example joined in July E195 SP-LNO - ex-Saratov airlines that never entered service with the airline but is still painted in the carriers bright orange livery with LOT sticker also joined in July E195 SP-LNP - one more ex-Azul example is set ...
Jump to postFour of the Max aircraft are now parked in Lublin, three on the small ramp by PZL Świdnik and one on the main ramp right in the corner of stand 10. No idea where the other two are! I definitely saw one near the LOT hanger at WAW last Monday when arriving from NCE on a 788 (SP-LRF) as the previous r...
Jump to postNot sure how the South-Korean traffic will cope with the negative news related to the sinking of Hableany with a loss of 27 korean lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_Hable%C3%A1ny Like with any tragedy, maybe a few weeks of bad press but it won't affect traffic at all. Both South Korea...
Jump to postAll this expansion is nice but how do they plan on fitting all those extra flights at WAW? I know the airport will get some expansion but will it be enough? Check out this thread regarding expansion at WAW http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1416259&p=21376855&hilit=waw+a...
Jump to postSRQLOT wrote:
Ah good to hear! The broken propping up the broken LOL
Also don’t forget SP-LSA is it of service too, 3 weeks now? Also SP-LSA, their first 787-9 awaits new engine(s), stored. LSF went tech at YYZ due to steering problems of some sort. 787s breaking down, nothing new. And the funny thing is LOT will order more 787s sometime this year. Actually SP-LSA l...
Jump to postOn a separate note SP-LSF the 6th 787-9 and 14th Dreamliner overall has just been delivered to LOT and immediately flew to Toronto on a revenue flight but went tech for some reason. LOT has one more 787-9 left on order that will join the fleet this year, hopefully now with nearly all 787s delivered ...
Jump to postFirst rendering of what the new CPK might look like, to be honest it looks nothing special and its only a very basic sketch of what they are planning but its a first look. https://r-scale-4e.dcs.redcdn.pl/scale/o2/tvn/web-content/m/p121/i/44968aece94f667e4095002d140b5896/4011645b-831f-4c3b-9213-8bdb...
Jump to postAB have 3 different configurations for their A340s ( https://www.airbelgium.com/en/on-board/seating-map ) - all of these have at least as many or more J seats as an LO 787-8. Does anyone know which config LO has operating for them? 2 out of the 3 configurations have no premium economy, but lots of ...
Jump to postInteresting, I wonder what that means for WAW. Are they replacing these E95s with larger aircraft such as the 737 or are they just reducing flights overall so there is room for maneuvering? There will be more used E195s joining the fleet in the near future, possibly more ex-Azul birds, nothing is c...
Jump to postAlso it would indicate that they are planning on basing E95s in BUD since all WAW-PRG flights seem to be operated by Q400s (as per link above). Yes they are planning on basing a so far unknown number of E195s at BUD. WAW-PRG flights are operated by a variety of aircraft, including both the E170 and...
Jump to postDid LOT sign a contract with Rainbow Tours for these flights in the recent weeks or months? Yes, LOT will operate the following flights on behalf of Rainbow Tours from KTW Antalya Bodrum (from 25 May) Girona (from 24 May) Catania (from 2 June) Korfu (from 25 May) Kos (from 25 May) Lesbos (from 5 Ma...
Jump to postSayol82 wrote:
emuwarveteran wrote:
I have a feeling that this and the new airport will be the death of LCJ passenger traffic
Since we are on the topic of airports and possible growth options for LOT, Krakow airport just announced its expansion plans. The Terminal will be expanded from 55k to 80k m2 to increase capacity to 12 million. This is the corner stone of the 1 billion PLN airport improvement programme which also in...
Jump to postA recent poll showed that an overwhelming majority of Varsovians were against the idea of building a new airport. And so I am, believe me. I really like Chopin airport and the quick ride to down town from it, so I wish they'd built a parallel runway with a brand new centre terminal. However, unlike...
Jump to postYes. Planning studies show there’s certainly room for a second runway. All that’s required is burying a short section of nearby expressway. The land necessary for that expansion is mostly undeveloped. If you think the proposed plan you attached is even a remote possibility then you have no clue abo...
Jump to postDude, WAW should be able to handle at least 25mln pax and 2x as many movements as it does now even with a single runway. The problem isnt the runways its asinine European curfews and artificial slot controls. Both of those factors are not a justification for building a new airport. Well you pretty ...
Jump to postIn fact, Gatwick does have 2 parallel runways, but they cannot be used both at the same time. There is no plan to expand Gatwick with a third runway parallel to the existing ones. In all senses practical, Gatwick will remain with its current capacity, but that is not the point. It is, rather, that ...
Jump to postAs oftentimes on this website, once again an argument for "my airport needs more runways or it can't ever grow". And as always, these people are reminded of the fact that Heathrow doesn't have 5 runways, but 2, and that Gatwick has a single runway in use at any given time. And they are ma...
Jump to postSpeaking of BUD, LOT is looking at launching BUD-BEG flights with the E195 it is going to base at BUD. The airline is expanding its short-haul flying in order to help fill the long haul operations out of Budapest so I can see more routes being launched from the Hungarian capital. Source: https://www...
Jump to postLack of future expansion possibilities is certainly a major problem for WAW in the long term. There might be land left to add additional terminal space and parking positions. There is not however, any space to add a 3rd runway in order to have two independent operational runways. The two intersectin...
Jump to postNot really. The very limited long-haul operations that Malév ever had were grossly loss-making and consisted at its peak of PEK, BKK, NYC, YYZ and CLE(maybe not even all of those all at once). Remember that even during communist times, when IF, LO, OK, RO, LZ (and SU, of course) had long-haul opera...
Jump to postIs LO getting some subsidies for these flights from BUD? This no one knows for sure, Poland and Hungary are quite close allies of late so that could be the case, but so far there is no proof of that. Another reason is the lack of space for widebody operations at WAW, the non-schengen part of the te...
Jump to postThe current Polish government is not anti-EU, however it is true that it is more friendly towards the US. LOT will probably keep ordering Boeing planes unless they screw up badly again. As I have said before if they keep doing well I see B777s and the Boeing NMA joining the fleet in the 2020s. Ever...
Jump to postThis statement is a bit paradoxical: Poland is a member of EU, so saying that they have better relations with US than EU, is the same as saying they have better relations with USA than with themselves. If you mean they have an aversion to the UK. France & Germany "consortium", then I ...
Jump to postNo chance in hell that LOT is going to order any Airbus aircraft. Not only has LOT been a loyal Boeing customer since the fall of communism but the Polish Gov has better relations with the USA than with the EU.
Jump to postBlerg wrote:How many actual airbridges are there in WAW? Are they all versatile as in can all of them take either a wider or a narrow-body aircraft?