There's been a bit of chat about OKV and schedules. I can't share too much but it's won't be used on traditional 77W routes. There's a fast growing route which will see it for a period this year.
Jump to postI don't believe lounge costs going up is to solve "overcrowding". The overcrowding issue remains, nevertheless, and has existed for years before Covid. I wonder whether they will try to address this in the next year, or just leave it? In 2018, they said they had plans to build a second lo...
Jump to postKoru Club membership fees are increasing by 20% from this month (26 April). I wonder if this will (eventually) ease lounge overcrowding, particularly in Auckland where the sign turning away customers using lounge e-vouchers seems to now be a permanent fixture. https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.flyer...
Jump to post1) There was a comment made about NZ and AIAL relationship breaking down? I'm not sure how or why we think it has? They hold a different perspective on a topic. We can't deny the NZ-AIAL relationship has deteriorated, which is the heart of the matter. The QF-AIAL relationship too. It's a bit of an ...
Jump to postA few things from the previous thread. 1) There was a comment made about NZ and AIAL relationship breaking down? I'm not sure how or why we think it has? They hold a different perspective on a topic. Outside this, is there a relationship problem? There's nothing wrong with disagreeing. 2) Has NZ put...
Jump to postGood find. So this could be where the 8th 77W goes to. It could be scheduled off a US in bound flight eg LAX- AKL- NRT - AKL. 8 77W in the schedule so far for NW24/25 but could change. Also various short haul. 10x LAX 7x SFO 7x IAH 7x NRT I would guess 9 and 10 either do some YVR flying and or SIN....
Jump to postJust looking ahead to NW24/25 I see NZ have loaded a daily 77W NRT while also maintaining the second flight 3x weekly on a 789 looks like for entire NW at this stage, but a long way out so we will see. Good find. So this could be where the 8th 77W goes to. It could be scheduled off a US in bound fl...
Jump to postGiven the existing and ongoing 787 issues it just seemed prudent to hold on to at least some of the 77E in desert storage - given that they had already been written down to be almost worthless and the costs of delaying their disposal were relatively trivial. If there had been no 787 issues and no d...
Jump to postplanemanofnz wrote:NZ6 wrote:Some are believed to be unhappy with how it's going.
Who exactly? Source?
I don’t get the mania on this thread for increased competition everywhere, which is supposed to lead to lower fares as if this was the ultimate goal of the aviation sector - or ought to be. Apart from putting pressure on staff wages and shareholder returns in very uncertain times, it’s worth noting...
Jump to post... yields have not been strong. In the earnings call last month: - Leila Peters, NZ's GM of Corporate Finance, said US yields are still higher than those to Asia - "Asia would be a little bit lower than the US looking forward" - Greg Foran, NZ's CEO, then said Asia was "actually goi...
Jump to post... yields have not been strong. In the earnings call last month: - Leila Peters, NZ's GM of Corporate Finance, said US yields are still higher than those to Asia - "Asia would be a little bit lower than the US looking forward" - Greg Foran, NZ's CEO, then said Asia was "actually goi...
Jump to postI doubt QF would have any reason to undercost/cross subsidise the JQNZ flying. If it's not making money on its own, they'd chop it as it isnt all that strategic in the overall QF network. I dont see any reason their statement isnt correct. Indeed, if they were lying in ASX lodged documentation, sha...
Jump to postTheir view is the US carriers have a surplus of equipment which isn't currently being flown into the likes of China so the carriers are flying them into other routes. Yes, Foran continues to suggest that the US3 are essentially dumping capacity here because of the US-China situation. But is that re...
Jump to postIt would be fascinating to be in NZ's strategy room to hear the ideas about how/whether to respond. Grow the number of Americas ports ex-AKL to offer more one-stop options to places unlikely to be served non-stop from Australia - places like LAS, MEX, GRU, YYZ? Prioritize this over growing JFK and ...
Jump to postHappy New Year to all. My prediction is; NZ will grow it's ATR at some point. The Q300's will reduce and we will see electric/hybrid/alternative fuel source aircraft sometime after 2030 but I don't think NZ are done ordering the ATR' yet. I expect some for growth as well as some Q300 replacement/up-...
Jump to postI agree both airlines are very different. They did keep all their 330s while NZ retired their 772s which were of a similar age. Which has allowed them to restart their schedule and open new routes since Covid. QF actually has 3 more A380s yet to return to service not storied, which are taking a ver...
Jump to postNZ or Foran is too conservative; I'm not sure where this theory has come from? I think it’s self-evident that NZ’s approach has changed dramatically over the last few years, not just since Covid. Judging by his public statements, Foran’s approach is clearly more conservative than was Luxon’s. A320N...
Jump to postNZ or Foran is too conservative; I'm not sure where this theory has come from? This theory has come up from the comparison between NZ and QF since Covid. Where QF has been on a huge expansion phase while NZ has only one new route opened up to HBA. Also we can compare Air NZ now to the period before...
Jump to postRe IUE - Where did the theory come from that NZ has a social license to fly this route? How is that placed over HBA? - Have we considered any contracted obligations NZ might have? Is a second weekly service with freight more commercially viable than under serving HBA with leisure? NZ or Foran is too...
Jump to postOD undercutting NZ on AKL-PER, as predicted. Good to see competition. Fare snapshot AKL-Perth return Sept 18-Sept 23: Batik Air: $958 Air NZ: $1407 AKL-Perth return Dec 23-Dec 30: Batik Air: $1467 Air NZ: $2012 Meanwhile, NZ doesn't seem nervous about OD. Air New Zealand general manager short haul ...
Jump to postNZ doesn't intend to be a cutting edge leading airline with regard to product SkyCouch? SkyNest? It's a very small airline who ... preforms reasonably well. For now, but will it perform as well into the future? Yeah, SkyCouch was developed when Air NZ was going hard on their ancillary revenue phase...
Jump to postI feel we're over analyzing a comment Welcome to Airliners.net! :lol: Have we forgotten COVID already? .. a bit rich ... Many in the industry have, even if NZ has not, and that's exactly the point. Competitors are well back into growth mode, and taking/will take market share away from NZ, whether i...
Jump to postInstead of making throwaway comments like " They actually enjoy holding a baby ... they enjoy getting someone an extra cup of coffee " (major generalisation), he should focus on speeding up the J refurbishment, matching QF's kit/PJ offerings, improving mid-flight snack/dining options, and...
Jump to postAudacious press release by Air NZ today. With domestic capacity at 94% of pre-Covid levels and International at 60%, they had the audacity to blame current price-gouging on inflation! There is a serious underlying problem. The Luxon years saw the airline stagnate its long-haul network and rely on m...
Jump to postMore 787's will become -9 without question in my opinion. The fact we've had radio silence from Boeing and a lack of serious interest from other airlines indicates a lot to me. Plus they really struggled to get the 787, 737-MAX and now 777-X series off the ground makes me really question what's goi...
Jump to post- three of their five US routes (JFK, ORD and IAH) are challenging in terms of aircraft capability, particularly west-bound with high pax load factors plus freight - NZ have locked themselves into a single fleet strategy (based on the 787) that, even assuming a 6t MTOW increase for 789 and 78J, wil...
Jump to postPredictions: - via lessors, Air New Zealand ordered three or four more A321neos. They're international config ones but the airline intends much of their work to be domestic, with the config giving them extra flexibility. - 787 WiFi upgrades still not to be complete by year end. - Air New Zealand ta...
Jump to post- three of their five US routes (JFK, ORD and IAH) are challenging in terms of aircraft capability, particularly west-bound with high pax load factors plus freight - NZ have locked themselves into a single fleet strategy (based on the 787) that, even assuming a 6t MTOW increase for 789 and 78J, wil...
Jump to postI sometimes wonder if people here post industry buzz words in an attempt to sound informed on a topic. Regarding TG does anyone have any actual data to support their yield of lack of? Perhaps NZ just sits lower on the priority list vs other Asian and European cities? TG were/are more than a cheap As...
Jump to postZKNZR wrote:https://fr24.com/ANZ23/2eae83ab
NZ23 YVR-AKL has just returned to YVR shortly after departure. Might be a mechanical issue or medical, appears to have held over Vancouver Island around 25,000ft before returning.
Just an idea could EK launch a second service but via BKK now that there is no TG service. So something like a daily 77W DXB-BKK-AKL they could extend one of their many daily DXB-BKK flights. They have had a second service to AKL pre covid. A flight via BKK might be more higher value than via DPS w...
Jump to postwonder if they are now regretting retiring the entire 77E. I don't know about regretting, even if they had a larger fleet I'm not sure the airline would have the capability to utilize them. I do feel there's a window appearing where the would prefer some of the next 787's sooner but that's not to s...
Jump to postMany many years ago AKL was one of the first airports to have 2 dutyfree outlets competing and dutyfree was actually worth buying - pricing was very competitive but those days have long gone.☹️ Yeah I used to make the trip into DFS in the city a week or two before my bigger holidays. Get excited an...
Jump to postWhat are the chances VA return to AKL/CHC/WLG next year? Or have they given up on the trans tasman? There's always a chance. But if I was the CEO I wouldn't. NZ & QF/JQ have the Tasman well covered, they're better off going back to the basics and what once took them to great heights. To compete...
Jump to postNZ OTP is taking a hit lately, delays everywhere. SIN cancelled again. Weather isn’t great, and I guess staff shortages, Covid cases to. Is the fuel shortage/limits a problem yet? MX and crew sickness. I think last week the latest training group finished up training so that should help, there's bee...
Jump to posthttps://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1468453&p=23570909#p23570909 Well here is a rumour, could DL launch LAX-AKL? Towards the end of the thread. It does have some merit imo at least seasonally and could be done with an A339. When considering the alliances, and as much as woul...
Jump to postHow exactly, have a few feathers been ruffled? Well it's obvious isn't it. The AKL-JFK route for NZ is the new flagship route even getting the NZ1&2 flight numbers it's been in the pipeline for many years. Then all of a sudden and out of the blue QF announce they will compete on the route and s...
Jump to post77W is only till Jan 15th. I gather ZK-OKO has had its lease extended. 7x 77W will go to LAX/SFO/IAH I would think SIN needs more capacity in summer, I still think SQ could use a seasonal A380 but NZ could use the 77W to. SFO is loaded as 5x 77W and LAX 10x 77W from July which only uses just over 4...
Jump to postSome other news Barrier Air have started their first TRG service to GBI. http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2022/12/barrier-air-introduces-tauranga-servce.html?m=1 Air Chathams have placed their second ATR into service good to see them both doing well. http://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2022/12/second-atr-...
Jump to postI done some research of the NZ domestic aviation scene of the past. There was a period when there were 3 domestic airlines competing with fairly extensive coverage of the nation far more than what we have today. Plus the size of the NZ market was smaller back then. Air NZ including Mt Cook and Air ...
Jump to postAre you sure of this? I was under the impression the footprint of the new domestic pier would be on top of the tennis courts? See the image at https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/auckland-airport-to-build-a-1-billion-domestic-terminal-when-travel-demand-recovers/ZENPLG4QDAQJVYTKVVO3BXPPVA/ V/F That...
Jump to postWith air travel starting to ramp up at AKL, over the next few weeks lead into the summer peak. With more airlines and routes returning, how well is AKL prepared to handle this his influx? At domestic last night my flight arrived at Gate 22 on NZ, this typically was a JQ gate in the past. Has NZ tak...
Jump to postThe second PER flight may come later... Will they choose to fly a second AKL-PER service, or re-launch CHC-PER? They probably need to purchase another 789 before, they can think of a second PER service. They already had to wetlease to cover PER this summer. But post summer more 77W come back online.
Jump to postMaybe, just maybe NZ isn't bothered about PER and trying to make it work on N.A. Well, a few years back they were explicitly saying they WERE trying to figure out how to make it work, and then as others have pointed out pre-Covid there were two or three summer seasons where they rejigged the timeta...
Jump to postMaybe, just maybe NZ isn't bothered about PER and trying to make it work on N.A.
Jump to postYes, Air New Zealand said it "is looking to resume seasonal services to Bali in 2023". But, that was over 6 months ago - hopefully they'll have the capacity. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/bali-restart-new-zealand-could-wait-a-year-for-direct-air-links/DRQG5J7YVWXYDAZS2LR7BDQ4FU/ Bali ...
Jump to postTonight's JFK to Auckland is already scheduled to stop in Fiji. If this is gonna be the norm then it's a pretty pointless flight. IMO there's no advantage over connecting on the west coast. Every single flight plan has alternatives / diversions built in. This is the million dollar question. Do you ...
Jump to postTonight's JFK to Auckland is already scheduled to stop in Fiji. If this is gonna be the norm then it's a pretty pointless flight. IMO there's no advantage over connecting on the west coast. Every single flight plan has alternatives / diversions built in. This is the million dollar question. Do you ...
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