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by mat66
Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure ;) I believe the CX delivery schedule is the following: 2018: 8x 35J (including today's delivery) 2019: 2x 359 + 4x 35J 2020: 4x 359 + 3x 35J 20...

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by mat66
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Would be nice if during the Cathay A35K delivery ceremony right now, they‘d say how many Cathay will get this year. Well, more than Qatar Airways for sure ;)

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by mat66
Thu May 31, 2018 12:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iberia first A350 takes flight
Replies: 43
Views: 5803

Re: Iberia first A350 takes flight

Did they release a seat map already? I still wonder how they fit 24(3*8) real premium eco and all 293 economy seats aft of door 2.

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by mat66
Mon May 07, 2018 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH GROUP to order 2 B77W,2 B77F, 6 A320neo and up to 6 A320ceo
Replies: 74
Views: 12305

Re: LH GROUP to order 2 B77W,2 B77F, 6 A320neo and up to 6 A320ceo

T54A wrote:
I imagine a heavily discounted A320CEO over short distances won’t cost much more over time than a normally priced NEO


That is what I'm wondering about. It is still a lot of fuel if they keep them for 20 years. Would make more sense to sell them in 4-5 years, I guess.

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by mat66
Fri May 04, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 273
Views: 67131

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Airbus monthly update: http://www.airbus.com/aircraft/market/orders-deliveries.html The interesting bit: Also included in the April sales activity was one undisclosed customer’s order for 22 A319neo versions and five A319ceo aircraft What I don't get is backlog/total orders for A319neo went from 30...

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by mat66
Wed May 02, 2018 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AIRBUS 2020-2030 development projects A360, A370 opportunities.
Replies: 289
Views: 48385

Re: AIRBUS 2020-2030 development projects A360, A370 opportunities.

Really good posts here in the last 24h. I'd like to add my projections for Airbus next decade. For the A32X I see some combination of plus/plus plus, new wing, A322 at 48-49m either simple stretch or 40m wing. Like we discussed in several threads. I don't want to go in too much details since it gets...

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by mat66
Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus considering re-branding CSeries as A200
Replies: 129
Views: 20532

Re: Airbus considering re-branding CSeries as A200

Fortunately it is „one of the names discussed“ IMO A314,A315 or A315,A316 would make sense, even with no resemblance of 100 and 300. As the CS300 is the base model, I would call it A315. Similar to A320 and the shrink A319. A316 as the future stretch. A2**has nothing to do with Airbus commercial air...

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by mat66
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Slightly off topic: Do I remember reading early on that the dimming windows on the 787 were going to be available as an option on the A350? Did AB finally choose not to offer it or if it did, did any airline pick the option? I just had my first A350 flight y'day (DL) and was curious. Apols if I sho...

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by mat66
Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates A380 to have newer cabins.
Replies: 14
Views: 4022

Re: Emirates A380 to have newer cabins.

About those 16 options. The rate of 6 p.a. from 2020 is that with or without the options. If EK really take 16 more this could then go up to 8-10. Airbus might just not loose money with that. Just.

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by mat66
Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321LR Seychelles to Toulouse Non-Stop 11 hours
Replies: 188
Views: 30571

Re: Airbus A321LR Seychelles to Toulouse Non-Stop 11 hours

The A321LR will never be scheduled to be on a 11h flight. But it just might be that on a winter day with terrible headwinds it can make it over the north atlantic without the stop in Gander. This is what Airbus marketing wants airline dispatchers to read. Just my 2c.

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by mat66
Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CSeries Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 269
Views: 72968

Re: CSeries Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Amiga500 wrote:
From what I gather, the target (as decreed from on high) is now to get to rate 10.


Is that with the Mobile FAL? Something like 5+5?
I'd like that, but they need a lot of sales for that.

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by mat66
Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas proposes amenities in the cargo hold for ultra long flights
Replies: 76
Views: 12605

Re: Alan Joyce floats the idea of "Cargo class"

Airline's can profitably utilities cargo space that would otherwise be empty on ULH flights, and passenger can get a lie flat bed at lower cost than a J seat. The problem for the airlines is that it might be too popular with passenger, why pay for J or W seat when you can get a Y seat + plus a bed?...

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by mat66
Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321LR Seychelles to Toulouse Non-Stop 11 hours
Replies: 188
Views: 30571

Re: Airbus A321LR Seychelles to Toulouse Non-Stop 11 hours

Sometimes in the last 9-12 months I actually wonder if some posts have Boeing IP addresses. Something like "Randy's interns are at it again".

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by mat66
Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing formally delivers the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines
Replies: 113
Views: 22183

Re: Boeing formally delivers the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines

For the same 4000nm mission they should burn close to equal fuel, only difference is more pax and the potential revenue from it. So very close to the same weight and fuel burn, with a bit more fuselage length, and a bit less fuselage width. Operators for which 10Y in the 359 is appropriate will fin...

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by mat66
Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing formally delivers the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines
Replies: 113
Views: 22183

Re: Boeing formally delivers the first 787-10 to Singapore Airlines

did Boeing announce the official OEW yet? I looked, but I couldn't find anything .. The new ACAP is out. The OEW on the -10 is 135500kg. Thanks Was that the target OEW as well? I am surprised its OEW is the same as A350, figured it would be slightly lighter .. Is there an official OEW from Airbus f...

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by mat66
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ considering 3rd ULH destination and additional A359LRs
Replies: 114
Views: 18068

Re: SQ considering 3rd ULH destination and additional A359LRs

Singapore Airlines flies SFO with regular A350s today. These are 7300-8500NM ranges from SIN.. http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=SIN-SFO&R=7340NM%40SIN,+8500NM%40SIN%0d%0a&MS=wls&MR=1800&MX=720x360&PM=* LIM would be 10300NM :wink2: http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=SIN-LIM&R=7340NM%40SIN,...

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by mat66
Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Inaugural QF MEL-PER-LHR this Saturday 24 March
Replies: 569
Views: 69094

Re: Inaugural QF MEL-PER-LHR this Saturday 24 March

Info from a mate suggests planned TOW is 251.6t with expected burn of 92.2t. To put that into perspective according to the ACAP on Boeings website the 787-9 has a MTOW of 254t and usuable fuel capacity of 101.46t. From the fuel perspective, they're expecting to burn 5.42t of fuel per hour. Adding u...

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by mat66
Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus officially launches 251t A330neo variant
Replies: 137
Views: 24999

Re: Airbus officially launches 251t A330neo variant

Btw. the linked flight global article quotes A330 marketing chief Crawford Hamilton that the 251t version can do LAX-Australia. LAX-BNE is 6223nm and LAX-SYD is 6507nm. I guess A330 come with at least ETOPS 180 right from Toulouse? Will the neo? I also believe it is funny that not too long ago in so...

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by mat66
Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes
Replies: 327
Views: 58200

Re: Airbus CEO warns of significant impact from corruption probes

Why does Airbus have their logo on an America's cup team? I don't see the team owning an airline anywhere... Obviously there is more to this than wild theories about corruption. Where Airbus messed up is with documentation/process and this has got them very deservedly in trouble. google "airbu...

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by mat66
Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus officially launches 251t A330neo variant
Replies: 137
Views: 24999

Re: Airbus officially launches 251t A330neo variant

Did this MTOW increase came with any MZFW or MLW increase? A 9T jump is quite a lot for this airframe, so is this all for fuel/range, or will it allow operators to squeeze a bit more payload in it? If you ask me, I find it a bit fruitless to only add range without adding payload, as you just end up...

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by mat66
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 268
Views: 70855

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

WIederling wrote:

Over the years OEW impact from MTOW expansion seems to have been minimal.
The step to NEO engines had higher impact.


Doesn’t this make the original A330 from the nineties too heavy / over built / compromised because of the A340?
Just a thought...

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by mat66
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft
Replies: 113
Views: 20960

Re: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft

To me the article states that Indigo is contemplating buying the A330-800. Quote: The carrier aims to take the upgraded A330neo version of the plane, according the people, who asked not to be named as the discussions aren’t public. The deal would be worth $13 billion at list prices for the smaller ...

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by mat66
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft
Replies: 113
Views: 20960

Re: IndiGo mulls up to 50 A330neo aircraft

To me the article states that Indigo is contemplating buying the A330-800. Quote: The carrier aims to take the upgraded A330neo version of the plane, according the people, who asked not to be named as the discussions aren’t public. The deal would be worth $13 billion at list prices for the smaller ...

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by mat66
Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sukhoi launches 75-seat Superjet shrink, mulls GTF engine
Replies: 39
Views: 5990

Re: Sukhoi launches 75-seat Superjet shrink, mulls GTF engine

A larger Superjet variant would take it into the Bombardier CSeries market, says Rubtsov, "and I don't think it is the right time to reproduce the CSeries".

I don‘t quite get his comment on the CSeries. Does he mean that with Airbus‘s involvement there is no point to compete against it?

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by mat66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

KarelXWB wrote:
mat66 wrote:
Do we know the equivalent manufacturer empty weight for the A350-900?


115,700 kg


Thanks.
129,000kg-115,700kg=13,300kg. Is that a realistic difference for a 7m stretch? OEW was supposed to be 17-18t more than A350-900 (unofficially).
Maybe A350-1000 is slightly lighter than anticipated.

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by mat66
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

ap305 wrote:
Karel I think that is manufacturer empty weight...does not include any furnishings and possibly not the engines.


Do we know the equivalent manufacturer empty weight for the A350-900?

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by mat66
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Azur flight Moscow-Cuba diverts to ACY Jan. 31
Replies: 13
Views: 2233

Re: Azur flight Moscow-Cuba diverts to ACY Jan. 31

"I think I want to live in Montana. Will they let me live in Montana?"

Pretty clueless article, but apparently the airport handled it well. Good job.

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by mat66
Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters: United to consider Airbus A321 NEO.
Replies: 233
Views: 37104

Re: Reuters: United to consider Airbus A321 NEO.

keesje wrote:
2026-2028 is too far for the 757/767 fleets.


If this is true and I tend to believe it (another 10 years/oil prize in 2026-28?), this short sentence is IMHO the best argument for UA actually doing it.

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by mat66
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time
Replies: 260
Views: 41814

Re: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time

Numbers from Airbus about performance and $ mentioned here is THE reason Boeing hasn't launched the 797 yet. It would be an incredible leap in production cost for a WB airplane no less to be anywhere near where they have to be. Can they do it? What does a A321/A322 plus or plus plus sell for? >3000 ...

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by mat66
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time
Replies: 260
Views: 41814

Re: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time

Let's add a image to my story from Leeham https://leehamnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Airbus_A321neo_240_seats_Airbus-Cabin-Flex_Cabin_Layout.png Oh many I would not want to sit in those last two seats. The last few rows are probably 17 inches wide or less due to the taper in the fuselage. Th...

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by mat66
Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time
Replies: 260
Views: 41814

Re: A321LR takes to the skies for the first time

hispanola wrote:
Definitely this decade's 757.


You Sir, are very brave :lol:

LFLL wrote:
I really like the racoon mask on this one


I don't know. It is for sure a way to distinguish it from the regular A321. We have to wait what customers do. Remind me, who is the first to take the A321LR in Q4?

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by mat66
Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 41133

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

As I understand it, the USITC decided that Boeing isn't harmed because it doesn't have a competing product to the CS100. Of course, Boeing can still appeal that decision. They haven't yet said what they plan to do. If the USITC ruling stands, then any purchase of CS100's is safe from an anti-dumpin...

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by mat66
Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-airways-airbus-a350/qatar-airways-first-airbus-a350-1000-to-be-delivered-feb-15-20-ceo-idUSKBN1FG07G Four :hissyfit: Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbproduction/pro...

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by mat66
Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 41133

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

Fantastic news for Airbus and the C-Series or soon A315... :stirthepot: I am actually wondering about this. Will they at one point call it A314 and A315, as well as later launch the A316(CS500)? Only if and when Airbus owns 100% of the program, or not? going by history it will be AB314..17 ( Airbus...

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by mat66
Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

QR will only take 4 A350-1000 this year. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-qatar-airways-airbus-a350/qatar-airways-first-airbus-a350-1000-to-be-delivered-feb-15-20-ceo-idUSKBN1FG07G Four :hissyfit: Going with our (unofficial) production list from https://sites.google.com/site/a350xwbproduction/prod...

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by mat66
Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 41133

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

RalXWB wrote:
Fantastic news for Airbus and the C-Series or soon A315... :stirthepot:


I am actually wondering about this. Will they at one point call it A314 and A315, as well as later launch the A316(CS500)?
Only if and when Airbus owns 100% of the program, or not?

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by mat66
Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 41133

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

I have the feeling Boeing jumped the gun on this one. It was the wrong order and airplane they went to court for. They don't have a competing aircraft to the CS100. No "harm" done. They should have sat this one out. Once an US airline orders the CS300 in a competition where Boeing actually...

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by mat66
Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC
Replies: 359
Views: 41133

Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

I think the Mobile line still makes sense for a number of reasons, not the least of which being that the CS300 and certainly the CS500 are more likely to be found to compete with an existing Boeing product -- hence today's finding of no injury as regards the CS100 would be less likely to apply. Wha...

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by mat66
Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1424
Views: 95891

Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

https://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/956 ... 66/photo/1

I didn't expect that at all. Very surprising.
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US ITC votes unanimously: No injury for Boeing! Bombardier wins! https://twitter.com/FG_STrim/status/956 ... 66/photo/1

I didn't expect that at all. Very surprising.

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by mat66
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ
Replies: 518
Views: 58792

Re: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ

Source: https://leehamnews.com/2018/01/24/boeing-aims-half-100-150-seat-sector-737-7/ "Boeing aims for half of 100-150 seat sector with 737-7" Boeing says that it expects the 737-MAX 7 to capture half the 100-150 seat market share. That leaves Embraer/Bombardier/Airbus to fight over the o...

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by mat66
Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)
Replies: 165
Views: 23480

Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

I like this thread, but what I can't figure out here or elsewhere (the flight global statistic is for subribers only) is the actual number of 767 in service end of 2017. I'm especially interested in passenger versions vs. freighter/conversions. A split of -200, -200ER, -300, -300ER would be a bonus....

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by mat66
Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France - KLM no 737 MAX / A320 NEO orders
Replies: 135
Views: 24530

Re: Air France - KLM no 737 MAX / A320 NEO orders

I think we have a really good test case for the max10 here. If KLM orders a combination of max8 and max10, everything is fine. If on the other hand KLM (of all airlines) order max8 and A321neo... Right now they only have 5 737-900, but everyone else is going bigger. Transavia is the same thing. All ...

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by mat66
Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Longest Airbus Neo routes by WOW AIR?
Replies: 40
Views: 9867

Re: Longest Airbus Neo routes by WOW AIR?

WOW Air takes it a step further: TF-SKY flew KEF-LAX yesterday. 4,314nm and 8h 40mins. If that´s the future of flying, I´ll rather walk. Sorry, you got your miles wrong. It is 3750 nm or 4314 miles or 6942km. Still astounding distance. I wish everyone on this forum would actually use nm for distanc...

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by mat66
Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Longest A321ceo/A320neo route OVB-BKK?
Replies: 31
Views: 5933

Re: Longest A321ceo/A320neo route OVB-BKK?

Today WOW seems to set a new record again: their A 321neo TF-SKY is flying KEF-LAX nonstop!! 6.942km = 8,37 h NONSTOP in a narrowbody...usually this flight is done by their A330. https://www.flightradar24.com/WOW173/1035e4d6 is this flight a Milestone? 3750 nm, that's very impressive. Their A321neo...

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by mat66
Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model
Replies: 1000
Views: 202326

Re: Airbus weighs response if Boeing launches new mid-market model

Small update on the subject. Airbus is currently exploring two options: A person familiar with Airbus’s plans said it was studying two main options to respond to the new Boeing mid-jet, but was pausing decisions to try to force Boeing to show its hand first. The first would involve raising the maxi...

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by mat66
Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sorry to everyone for distracting this tread. One last question. Promised. Napkin calculation... Carbon fiber, 300 grams/sqmtr, resin for this layer is about 250 grams, so, 550 grams/sqmtr. Double this for both top and underside of the wing and you are at 1,1 kg/sqmtr wing. What is the wing area, 48...

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by mat66
Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/01/biomimicry--engineering-in-nature-s-style.html The a350 is likely to get riblets on its wings and horizontal tail from 2020... I was curious and just googled "shark skin tooth-like riblets" and apart from interesting pictures, found this stud...

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by mat66
Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/en/2018/01/biomimicry--engineering-in-nature-s-style.html The a350 is likely to get riblets on its wings and horizontal tail from 2020... I was curious and just googled "shark skin tooth-like riblets" and apart from interesting pictures, found this stud...

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by mat66
Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 receives certification from FAA
Replies: 32
Views: 8338

Re: Boeing 787-10 receives certification from FAA

"...that accumulated about 900 test hours" "The A350-1000 test campaign comprised 1,600 hr. and involved three aircraft" http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/airbus-receives-a350-1000-type-certificate I'm just wondering here. Is it 700 hr less because it is already the 3 v...

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by mat66
Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 978
Views: 335563

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Lighter wing (1 less carbon layer on both upper and bottom side of the wing) Any idea how much weight saving that constitutes? same for the new doorframing. There is a pilot eye.tv episode about a Lufthansa A350 flight MUC-BOS. They have several bits about the production process. In one part they v...

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