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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

I'll add that I'm actually excited to see what "Moxy" does at BUR if they go in there. I personally think there is unmet potential there. According to the proposal BUR is on the list of the first 3 planned destinations. https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2018/06/19/moxy-airways-detai...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska swaps 737 Max 8 orders for larger Max 9
Replies: 26
Views: 5366

Re: Alaska swaps 737 Max 8 orders for larger Max 9

737-900 (and presumably MAX-9) are hobbled by fuselage length combined with short landing gear limiting their initial rotation. MAX 10 is supposed to fix this with a levered main gear. The levered gear will straighten up on rotation, improving the takeoff rotation angle. True, and hopefully we see ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's next for MIA (route wise)?
Replies: 8
Views: 549

Re: What's next for MIA (route wise)?

Please don't say MIA - East Asia. that's probably not going to happen soon. Maybe, maybe not. https://www.thenextmiami.com/tourism-chief-japan-airlines-to-miami-within-a-year/ What about that airline David Neeleman is working on? He didn't make it sound like MIA was a focus, but frankly I'm thinkin...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

I'll add that I'm actually excited to see what "Moxy" does at BUR if they go in there. I personally think there is unmet potential there.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

Secondary airports are not secondary cities. All the airports he mentioned are in the biggest metropolitan areas of the country. BUR, for example is a secondary airport in the second largest metro area in the country. He will have 18.7 million people to draw from for transcons. That's very differen...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

The letdown in all this may be that what a lot of us imagine - COSMKE or PVDCMH - will instead be Everywhere-LAS and Everywhere-SFB. I still believe that the ideal model would be a hybrid of G4 and F9. A few smaller connecting hubs combined with massive p2p.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

Its not different. And this is why Airline work forces unionize. Management needs to come up with a better game plan for profits than "lets pay our work force less and/or just dissolve the airline and make a new airline so we can reset everyone to the bottom of the pay scale again". They ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Any new low cost carriers to MIA?
Replies: 14
Views: 547

Re: Any new low cost carriers to MIA?

My personal choice would actually be something like a Norwegian at MIA, with shorthaul and longhaul ops. I can't help but think there's room for a carrier with perhaps a twinge of Latin-themed heritage to take on AA there. Give it a decent onboard product a la B6 but perhaps with a bit more food and...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

It would have been, but he hasn't expressed any interest in secondary citites. "According to trade publication Airline Weekly, Neeleman is looking to form a low-cost service called Moxy Airlines. The company is expected to officially commence in 2020, and will be aimed at smaller secondary air...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Largest US international Routes Pax Counts for 2017
Replies: 35
Views: 2930

Re: Largest US international Routes Pax Counts for 2017

JustSomeDood wrote:
I honestly would not have guessed that TPE had more traffic to/from West Coast US than HKG, the more you know...


Apparently DL knows. :-)

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants
Replies: 51
Views: 4585

Re: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants

Hopefully all US carriers will follow suit. Complicity with this abominable policy equates to approval. Please stop. I don't need the airlines serving as my moral compass. Otherwise, I'm sure there are plenty of people who others would not want transported as well. An airline can’t really refuse so...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 60
Views: 3981

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

Anecdote but pretty shocking how few seats AS has Bay Area-PDX on evenings (post-6 pm). It's currently one A320 from SFO plus one E175 from OAK. WN has three 737s from OAK, three 737s from SJC and one from SFO. UA has one 737 and one A320 from SFO. #mostwestcoast The reason could be that AS doesn’t...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS announces SMF-KOA
Replies: 51
Views: 4358

Re: AS announces SMF-KOA

And my point isn’t to rag on Hawaii. I don’t like it but most clearly do. Just surprised at how much service it gets and how popular Americans continue to make it. Well, it's a domestic destination so that's a great start. It's easy - no money exchanges, languages to learn, etc. Low risk. It's also...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

So basically Allegiant 2.0 From a labor perspective, I hope this venture gets strangled in its crib or shortly afterwards. Its a blatant attempt at creating a "B" payscale. "Burdended and Bloated" with what? With fair paying jobs and work rules? Oh well, let the cycle continue. ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

A few of you are talking about the opportunity for connections/transfers, however, per revealed business plan the model will be strictly P2P, with no planned connections. More from the Airline Weekly story: And Moxy’s plan for keeping its unit costs low includes, for starters, flying from cheaper a...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants
Replies: 51
Views: 4585

Re: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants

I was wondering what the legal grounds for refusing them are, but I guess if they are lying about who the people are (let alone them not being documented) they can turn them away. No legal ramifications. AA is quite free to decline a contract with a government agency/entity. And certainly if ICE is...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

So basically Allegiant 2.0 From a labor perspective, I hope this venture gets strangled in its crib or shortly afterwards. Its a blatant attempt at creating a "B" payscale. The new airline will have an all-junior workforce and won’t be burdened with legacy costs and contracts. JetBlue sur...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants
Replies: 51
Views: 4585

Re: AA - no to ICE to transporting detained child migrants

I was wondering what the legal grounds for refusing them are, but I guess if they are lying about who the people are (let alone them not being documented) they can turn them away.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 60
Views: 3981

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

Anecdote but pretty shocking how few seats AS has Bay Area-PDX on evenings (post-6 pm). It's currently one A320 from SFO plus one E175 from OAK. WN has three 737s from OAK, three 737s from SJC and one from SFO. UA has one 737 and one A320 from SFO. #mostwestcoast Yes, #mostwestcoast not #mostbayare...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 20 CRJ900 with new interiors
Replies: 58
Views: 8164

Re: Delta orders 20 CRJ900 with new interiors

Delta needs more RJ's for focus city expansions, as adds at CVG/RDU/AUS/IND/BOS (and apparently now BNA) have been on hold until the CSeries arrive to displace larger RJ's. While most of these will probably be used to replace some of the older RJ's, the quick timing should allow them to bridge the ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: VLA era is over; are 779/A35K too large?
Replies: 91
Views: 14502

Re: Leeham: VLA era is over; are 779/A35K too large?

how do we know any of these percentages are truly significant without knowing the current actual values and the proposed new values. The OEMs will filter their numbers and can show "significant percentage improvement" just by changing the tracking parameters... Leeham.net normalizes to th...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time
Replies: 63
Views: 9939

Re: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time

I'm still trying to figure out what AP has to do with returning aircraft on time . . . :lol: Well, I was just shamelessly trying to see if he'd break his 3-post-per-thread rule. :-) Nah . . . he's got beans to count and tax dollars to save! Must say the "this happens every day" was a stra...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 60
Views: 3981

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

Anecdote but pretty shocking how few seats AS has Bay Area-PDX on evenings (post-6 pm). It's currently one A320 from SFO plus one E175 from OAK. WN has three 737s from OAK, three 737s from SJC and one from SFO. UA has one 737 and one A320 from SFO. #mostwestcoast Yes, #mostwestcoast not #mostbayare...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

He to this day still flys regularly on jetBlue, and for free. His family too. To think all the blue dust is kicked off his heels is a mistake. Besides what I said above about using a upstart shadowy airline with cheap labor costs to build out the midwest, there is the whole new entrant angle at air...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx orders additional 767 and 777s
Replies: 56
Views: 9577

Re: FedEx orders additional 767 and 777s

The 737NG - according to the MAX Production thread - will be produced until 2020 at the latest (unless something drastic changes). I can't imagine why an airline would not be willing to accept a mature MAX over an NG at that point?

EDIT - Didn't see the post above mine before hitting submit.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 20 CRJ900 with new interiors
Replies: 58
Views: 8164

Re: Delta orders 20 CRJ900 with new interiors

Replacement for GoJet's CR7s? They have 22, and they're some of the oldest CR7s. As far as I can see they're owned by DL too. Disappointing though that DL continues to buy CR9s when the far superior (for the passengers) E170 line is available. I've flown both and my Ejet flight was less comfortable...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

Bottom line, I think the legacies have more to fear from this than a carrier flying SWF-PGD. And that's a good thing... Another irony. He will struggle to get $100m to start this, and the US4 (AA/DL/UA/WN) would probably gladly give him $100m not to. That's at the core of the competition problem. T...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time
Replies: 63
Views: 9939

Re: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time

You do see these things every day. Everybody thinks their clients are the worst and everybody has a good reason to think so. The interface between a business and its suppliers are people, and people are generally mediocre. Fifty percent are even below average. Can you give an example? I'm still try...

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

ODwyerPW wrote:
I see a future tie up of JetBlue, MOXY (JetNAME to be decided later) and JetSuiteX.


Perhaps, but that is many, many steps down the road from a startup that’s barely off the drawing board. :-)

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time
Replies: 63
Views: 9939

Re: Wells Fargo sues AA for not returning leased planes on time

Nobody is good at Accounts Payable. You're generally dealing with pure paper-pushers, to put it politely. Somebody probably stapled some pages instead of paper clip them and nobody would lift a finger until threatened with repossession. Er, yeah, sure, that’s why we see these things every day. :sar...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

gregn21 wrote:
Bold prediction: They will dominate LGB after B6 leaves.


With WN moving in and with a cap well under 50 flights/day iirc, that will not be something all that spectacular.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 60
Views: 3981

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

I’d think ORF is about as big a hole for AS as EUG is for B6. In other words, not that big. I can think of many markets that are likely higher on the list for AS than ORF, and that ignores the need/ability to connect more existing dots first.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CSeries orders and possible orders for 2018
Replies: 95
Views: 19522

Re: CSeries orders and possible orders for 2018

Jetsouth wrote:
I wonder if the new order from Moxy is taking over the order placed by Republic, which was for 40, plus 40 options. Taking over the firm order made by Republic of the 40 and converting 20 of the options into a firm order.


I’m guessing it’s a new order.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

September11 wrote:
Fex180 wrote:
ual763 wrote:
This is very interesting! And exciting! Can’t wait to see their livery


Bright Orange with white accents, like the soft drink of the same name .....or their precursor Skybus :P



JetOrange?


JetAmerica? Probably too conventional for him. I’m going with Fusion.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline
Replies: 182
Views: 17417

Re: David Neeleman Raising Funds for New U.S. Airline

Everytime I have an idea, David Neeleman steals it. Lol.

GYY will take some work, but is possible. He might have to pioneer (if you will) a connecting bus service in-house or as a separate venture to make his secondary and tertiary airport strategy credible to passengers.

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by PlanesNTrains
Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 60
Views: 3981

Re: Alaska Airlines Network Thread 2018

SFOPHX
SJCPHX
SEACLE
SEACLT
SEABDL

And let’s see SFO get comfortably above 100 flights/day and 80% load factor.

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by PlanesNTrains
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue
Replies: 282
Views: 44263

Re: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue

The Ejet has no chance against the Airbus Cseries, whatever it will be called. This has now become an Airbus VS. Embraer battle. Back when it used to be a Airbus/Boeing vs. Bombardier battle, BBD didn't sell anything. If Embraer doesn't sell E2's at Farnborough and Airbus sells loads of Cseries whi...

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by PlanesNTrains
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Next A330 Neo orders....
Replies: 112
Views: 19222

Re: Next A330 Neo orders....

I’m sure there’s more than a few airlines that will be interested. It’d just be nice to see more momentum.

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by PlanesNTrains
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue
Replies: 282
Views: 44263

Re: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue

In favor of the E2: E1 in service at B6, Ejet deferrals at B6, strong EIS for E2 In favor of CS: Airbus oversight, growth potential, clean sheet, slightly more capable I’m sure that’s not exact, but still it is definitely up in the air. It’s the E2’s to lose. If B6 goes CSeries, who is the E2 savio...

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by PlanesNTrains
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue
Replies: 282
Views: 44263

Re: Embraer pitches E195-E2 at JetBlue

In favor of the E2: E1 in service at B6, Ejet deferrals at B6, strong EIS for E2 In favor of CS: Airbus oversight, growth potential, clean sheet, slightly more capable I’m sure that’s not exact, but still it is definitely up in the air. It’s the E2’s to lose. If B6 goes CSeries, who is the E2 savior...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka
Replies: 274
Views: 23685

Re: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka

What, Delta is cutting a route from SEA? But their local radio commercials say they are doubling down on Seattle as the [scientifically proven] center of the universe! Technically, they are just swapping routes. No change in frequency. I know that's not your point but just throwing it out there. It...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka
Replies: 274
Views: 23685

Re: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka

Gsdlimey wrote:
What, Delta is cutting a route from SEA? But their local radio commercials say they are doubling down on Seattle as the [scientifically proven] center of the universe!


Technically, they are just swapping routes. No change in frequency. I know that's not your point but just throwing it out there.

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad reports $1.52bn in losses for 2017
Replies: 42
Views: 6479

Re: Etihad reports $1.52bn in losses for 2017

More like a house of cards starting to wobble. There is a glut in two regions as far as I can tell. High transfer hubs suffer in downturns. Think DL at CVG. There are healthy airlines growing and unhealthy at a house of cards moment. For the ME3, bypass is happening. Some is geographically better l...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.
Replies: 164
Views: 37958

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

Could the 777X program at this late hour still be cancelled, replaced by new 787 versions with a different wing, producing an aircraft more mainstream and less costly to build? If Boeing haven't firmed 777X orders yet, it will never be cheaper to cancel than now. If 787 production costs are really ...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus, Bombardier C-Series Partnership Effective July 1
Replies: 64
Views: 10288

Re: Airbus, Bombardier C-Series Partnership Effective July 1

It's hard to predict the end of the A320 versus larger narrowbodies when they have 4000 of them on order versus about 1000 A321's. I think that the A320 can soldier on for a couple of decades alongside a brand new CS500. Fuel burn wise, the difference will be minimal so it could come down to what e...

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by PlanesNTrains
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Order book and production rates for the 777 and 777x during and after the transition
Replies: 10
Views: 2198

Re: Order book and production rates for the 777 and 777x during and after the transition

Ok.

Love that action pic. 77W is not my favorite plane but some shots look great.

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by PlanesNTrains
Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.
Replies: 164
Views: 37958

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

indeed 777X is the first one on the list https://www.reuters.com/article/us-etihad-airways-boeing-exclusive/exclusive-etihad-airways-in-talks-to-cancel-defer-boeing-777x-orders-sources-idUSKBN1J92FF Makes complete sense. If I were Boeing, I’d take the hit but tell them I’d want to see a one for one...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Britains First Sharia Airline
Replies: 121
Views: 16531

Re: Britains First Sharia Airline

No, listen. We have to be tolerant of other beliefs and ways of living, as long as they do the same with us. And most Muslims do that. I lived in Iran for two years and I am going to tell you straight out that the Iranians are the kindest, most hospitable people on earth. Ditto for all Middle Easte...

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by PlanesNTrains
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Britains First Sharia Airline
Replies: 121
Views: 16531

Re: Britains First Sharia Airline

Let people decide who they want to fly. As long as people aren't denied passage, they can choose to serve - or not serve - whatever they want. They just need to be clear up front about what their mission is if that's the case.

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