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by rwsea
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adding SEA-ORD
Replies: 97
Views: 10545

Re: DL adding SEA-ORD

Aeromexico, Air France, Alitalia, and KLM operate international flights out of Chicago O'Hare, and the Delta nonstops between SEA and ORD give Seattle-area customers access to international flights operated by Delta's codeshare partners to Europe and Mexico out of Chicago O'Hare. Seattle has twice ...

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by rwsea
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adding SEA-ORD
Replies: 97
Views: 10545

Re: DL adding SEA-ORD

Aeromexico, Air France, Alitalia, and KLM operate international flights out of Chicago O'Hare, and the Delta nonstops between SEA and ORD give Seattle-area customers access to international flights operated by Delta's codeshare partners to Europe and Mexico out of Chicago O'Hare. Seattle has twice ...

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by rwsea
Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Alaska and Condor becoming mileage partners
Replies: 5
Views: 781

Re: Alaska and Condor becoming mileage partners

Just saw this https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-03-20-Alaska-Airlines-adds-Europes-Condor-Airlines-as-Mileage-Plan-Partner https://alaskaair.com/content/mileage-plan/how-to-earn-miles/airline-partners/condor.aspx 4x/weekly PDX-FRA on DE has been such a success it wouldn't surprise me to now see P...

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by rwsea
Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adding SEA-ORD
Replies: 97
Views: 10545

Re: DL adding SEA-ORD

This is not overly shocking. Delta wants seats to feed its Asian connections and ORD is a major origin of that traffic. Also Delta wants to serve all of the important business destinations for Frequent Flyers. No one can be too shocked at this, Delta is going all cards in on making Asia work. This ...

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by rwsea
Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adding SEA-ORD
Replies: 97
Views: 10545

Re: DL adding SEA-ORD

I don't think what they do is to take passengers from your 2 hubs to make it work on a 3rd... this is a logical add to their network and it's more about the seattle hub than it is about ORD. The ORD- hkg connection seems just ok though. West bound you'll have 5 hours which is a bit long. Wouldn't s...

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by rwsea
Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance
Replies: 102
Views: 14092

Re: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance

I have horror stories from lots of countries that make entering the US seem like a dream by comparison. Care to enlighten us? I've seen long lines at US immigration for sure, but those are not the norm. I usually wait an hour at LHR, no matter where I am coming from or the time of day. Ever landed ...

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by rwsea
Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance
Replies: 102
Views: 14092

Re: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance

"easier upon arrival in the USA is overstated as it simply shifts the hassle to your origin." ....which is the point, it is less of a hassle dealing with only the pax from one airport versus the multitudes from multiple airports in one big facility with much longer lines. Most business ho...

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by rwsea
Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance
Replies: 102
Views: 14092

Re: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance

I see it as simple as not having all pax flow through one pipe. On arrival in MIA from Jamaica, I encounter much more pax than if I was able to pre-clear. If you look at staffing in the US, are they able to roster staff just for peak periods or must staff present for the entire day? - Union issue? ...

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by rwsea
Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance
Replies: 102
Views: 14092

Re: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance

The talks for pre clearance at Manchester are still on track, announcement could be soon. Whatever you think of Trump and his policies, rejecting pre clearance is short sighted. Trump will last 4 years, doubtful he will get the 8. It's unlikely pre clearance wouldn't have been up and running at AMS...

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by rwsea
Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance
Replies: 102
Views: 14092

Re: Dutch government ends talks with US on pre-clearance

I'm an American citizen and frequently travel to AMS. I see zero benefit whatsoever from Preclearance. It adds a lot of additional hassle at check-in, as you now need to arrive an extra hour or so early and have to worry about checking in luggage, going through immigration, then claiming luggage aga...

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by rwsea
Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: List of busiest airports in Europe (2016)
Replies: 63
Views: 11186

Re: List of busiest airports in Europe (2016)

I lived in AMS for several years, and still go back a few times a year to visit. Over the last couple of years, Schiphol has seemed more and more crowded. Lines are longer for security and immigration, the lounges are getting busier, and it just feels much more hectic in general. Good for the Dutch ...

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by rwsea
Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: No Meal Service on DL ATL-SFO in F?
Replies: 57
Views: 8165

Re: No Meal Service on DL ATL-SFO in F?

Question; If flying in Domestic First - does the passenger have access to the on of DL's lounges? Understandably, the passenger has a higher probability of being a FF member, and may likely already be eligible due to status - however, access to the lounge for dinner prior to the flight might be a d...

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by rwsea
Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:46 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which major airline has the worst business class hard product?
Replies: 54
Views: 1568

Re: Worst Business Class

I don't think you can tag an airline this way. For example, the UA 747-400 Business Class seats don't all have direct aisle access, but their 787 seats do. LH is still flying aircraft with lay flat seats, but they aren't 180 degrees to the floor, but not all their aircraft are that way. Not true, U...

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by rwsea
Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA converts UA 916/917 to AKL to seasonal service
Replies: 95
Views: 18969

Re: United suspends AKL

Isn't this a JV route? If so, I've understood it that both carriers of the JV must offer a route in order to get anti-trust immunity. Maybe I am wrong.

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by rwsea
Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Transatlantic J
Replies: 19
Views: 2529

Re: Transatlantic J

This is a pretty short flight, so I wouldn't bother connecting at a congested hub in Europe, nor would I bother with a connection somewhere in the US where you are forced to go through customs and wait around for a domestic flight connection. I'd go non-stop. Whether the EUR 500 upgrade is worth it ...

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by rwsea
Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

Haven't the big losers in Seattle been mostly United, and to a lesser extent WN? I had been expecting WN to grow, and rather they have backed off their Seattle flights. Alaska and JetBlue are both fairly well positioned in their markets. Long term they should consider some code sharing. One is a we...

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by rwsea
Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

RWSEA nailed this best up further.... this is a big loss for us PDX based flyers doing a mix of domestic + international. I have been MVPGold for 4-5 years now. Doing 100k miles, with 4-5 international trips to Europe/Asia/Australia, plus lots of domestic stuff. Right now, I honestly don't know wha...

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by rwsea
Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

Most of us expected the breakup with the DL SEA buildup, but PDX hasn't been mentioned much. SEA will be fine with DL and AS independent, but PDX is a big question mark. How will the DL long-haul flying fare without the codeshare? Will DL add some routes to support them or cut something? LHR in par...

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by rwsea
Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

NW operated the AMS flight before DL UA operated LHR/LGW (Pan Am before them) AF briefly opeated CDG before DL took it over NW operated NRT (as did UA) OZ and KE on ICN HU on PEK and PVG etc etc etc... Also DL had an Asian gateway at PDX back in the day, in case anyone forgot about that... I'm surp...

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by rwsea
Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

Being based in PDX, this isn't great news for me. I'm loyal to AS for all of my domestic travel, as they have the best schedule and best connections out of PDX. I travel frequently internationally though, and Delta currently has the best schedule. Most of us expected the breakup with the DL SEA bui...

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by rwsea
Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL/AS partnership to end
Replies: 88
Views: 12080

Re: DL/AS partnership to end

Being based in PDX, this isn't great news for me. I'm loyal to AS for all of my domestic travel, as they have the best schedule and best connections out of PDX. I travel frequently internationally though, and Delta currently has the best schedule. Not a fan of DL as I've had several poor experiences...

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by rwsea
Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Future Routes
Replies: 61
Views: 8940

Re: UA Future Routes

zrs70 wrote:
staralliance85 wrote:


IAD:

TLV: capital to capital service. TLV proves to be a success for UA.



Keep in mind that tlv isn't the capitol of Israel!


Okay, then what airport serves the capitol of Israel if it isn't TLV airport?

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by rwsea
Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL and the 777
Replies: 35
Views: 7929

Re: DL and the 777

DL's fleet has historically focused on the Atlantic, and for the most part, the 763s/764s they had pre-NW were good enough to cover most of those routes. As mentioned, DL started taking 777 deliveries to replace the M11s, but these didn't see their full potential for awhile due to DALPA issues. DL a...

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by rwsea
Thu Nov 10, 2016 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Sees Transatlantic Turning Sharply Negative
Replies: 50
Views: 12109

Re: UA Sees Transatlantic Turning Sharply Negative

1. On product, US carriers rapidly closed the gap, and in some ways are now superior to their European partners in Economy and Business Class. I'd say the DL J product is close or better to all the Euro carriers. Not sure I would go that far. The service on my last two flights was sloppy at best, u...

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by rwsea
Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska - British Airways plan codeshares
Replies: 50
Views: 7336

Re: Alaska - British Airways plan codeshares

ANA787 wrote:
Next up: BA adding PDX-LHR?


I sure hope so. DL is adding PDX-LHR, but it doesn't add any new connecting options. Would be great to have a second, daily flight to a major European hub with plenty of connecting opportunities.

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by rwsea
Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM launches Windhoek 3x/week in W16
Replies: 11
Views: 3900

Re: KLM launches Windhoek 3x/week in W16

Great add for KLM. Namibia is an amazing country and this will make it more accessible vs. the current connections through JNB. I assume that passengers will stay on the plane in LAD and not need to disembark? Angola is a notoriously difficult place when it comes to visas, so I have to assume that c...

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by rwsea
Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS adding EWR-PDX/SJC/SAN
Replies: 40
Views: 6219

Re: AS adding EWR-PDX/SJC/SAN

Great news for the Pacific Northwest and for Alaska's expanding network. PDX definitely needs more capacity to NYC so this is a great add (fares have been very expensive as of late). It's also good to see AS continue to diversify beyond SEA. I hope AS will use this as an opportunity to start making ...

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by rwsea
Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adds 3x daily PDX-LAS
Replies: 13
Views: 3149

Re: DL adds 3x daily PDX-LAS

Despite the expensive WN fares on this route, there are still two other competitors: Alaska and Spirit. Regardless, Portland needs more service given the expensive fares and full flights. Will be interesting to see how it does.

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by rwsea
Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: food on domestic US flights
Replies: 56
Views: 8589

Re: food on domestic US flights

There used to be food prior to 9/11. It was one of the first things cut afterward as airlines were losing lots of money and many on the verge of bankruptcy. Unfortunately it has become the norm now, despite the fact that the airlines are pulling in record profits. There have been small incremental i...

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by rwsea
Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Next To Upgrade Their Biz Class?
Replies: 41
Views: 10197

RE: DL Next To Upgrade Their Biz Class?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/questions" class="quote" target="_blank">questions</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i> I hope <acronym title="Delta Air Lines ...

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by rwsea
Sun Jun 05, 2016 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Newest Delta Safety Demo
Replies: 49
Views: 5923

RE: Newest Delta Safety Demo

To me this doesn't really portray a global image, it just shows that <acronym title="Delta Air Lines (USA)">DL</acronym> has a diverse workforce. They don't even fly to Romania anymore and barely fly to Sweden. If they really wanted to show a global reach I would have expected people from the Nether...

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by rwsea
Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Launches All-new 'Polaris' Business Class Seat Part 1
Replies: 200
Views: 28822

UA Launches All-new 'Polaris' Business Class Seat Part 1

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Pellegrine" class="quote" target="_blank">Pellegrine</a> (<a href="#113" class="quote">Reply 113</a>):<br/><i> <acronym title="Lufthansa (German...

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by rwsea
Tue May 31, 2016 8:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Whats The TSA Policy On Unaccompanied Checked Bag?
Replies: 9
Views: 1379

RE: Whats The TSA Policy On Unaccompanied Checked

The decision of what flight to place the bag on must always be with the airline. You cannot ask for the bag to travel on another flight, but the airline may choose to do that for operational reasons (i.e. put it on an earlier flight to free up cargo space, put on a later flight to reunite a bag with...

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by rwsea
Tue May 31, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: VS Comes To SEA-LHR; DL Goes To PDX-LHR
Replies: 74
Views: 18004

RE: VS Comes To SEA-LHR; DL Goes To PDX-LHR

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/toobz" class="quote" target="_blank">toobz</a> (<a href="#28" class="quote">Reply 28</a>):<br/><i> Very interesting!! Seems that <acronym title=...

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by rwsea
Mon May 23, 2016 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Announcement / Event June 2
Replies: 187
Views: 36997

RE: UA Announcement / Event June 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/chicawgo" class="quote" target="_blank">chicawgo</a> (<a href="#98" class="quote">Reply 98</a>):<br/><i>To all the posters screaming that re-bra...

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by rwsea
Sun May 22, 2016 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Announcement / Event June 2
Replies: 187
Views: 36997

RE: UA Announcement / Event June 2

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/AA737-823" class="quote" target="_blank">AA737-823</a> (<a href="#9" class="quote">Reply 9</a>):<br/><i> If airlines rebranded and came up with ...

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by rwsea
Sat May 21, 2016 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Announcement / Event June 2
Replies: 187
Views: 36997

RE: UA Announcement / Event June 2

Was hoping this might be a much-needed rebranding announcement, with new logo, livery, uniforms, etc. Still the number one priority in my mind in terms of rebooting <acronym title="United Airlines (USA)">UA</acronym>'s reputation in the marketplace and continuing to improve employee morale (building...

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by rwsea
Thu May 19, 2016 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Ends Fox Theater Sponsorship Over QR
Replies: 33
Views: 7537

RE: DL Ends Fox Theater Sponsorship Over QR

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/delimit" class="quote" target="_blank">delimit</a> (<a href="#6" class="quote">Reply 6</a>):<br/><i> Which, of course, isn't actually bs, but he...

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by rwsea
Thu May 12, 2016 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Senators: Drop Bag Fees To Shorten TSA Lines
Replies: 136
Views: 15725

RE: Senators: Drop Bag Fees To Shorten TSA Lines

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/atypical" class="quote" target="_blank">atypical</a> (<a href="#88" class="quote">Reply 88</a>):<br/><i>Source? That isn't what I recall going t...

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by rwsea
Thu May 12, 2016 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces Plan To Renovate IAH.
Replies: 72
Views: 12933

RE: United Announces Plan To Renovate IAH.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ryanrap1" class="quote" target="_blank">ryanrap1</a> (<a href="#5" class="quote">Reply 5</a>):<br/><i>what was the PanAm Worldport like? Actuall...

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by rwsea
Thu May 12, 2016 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Senators: Drop Bag Fees To Shorten TSA Lines
Replies: 136
Views: 15725

RE: Senators: Drop Bag Fees To Shorten TSA Lines

While I agree that <acronym title="Taipei - Sung Shan (TSA / RCSS), Taiwan">TSA</acronym> is a massive farce and should be done away with (remember that all of the 9/11 hijackers went through security and were under compliance with the standards of the time, as box-cutters were not prohibited items)...

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by rwsea
Tue May 10, 2016 11:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Cambodia Visa On Arrival?
Replies: 26
Views: 2636

RE: Cambodia Visa On Arrival?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/fallap" class="quote" target="_blank">fallap</a> (<a href="#22" class="quote">Reply 22</a>):<br/><i>It was quite an interesting display of burea...

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by rwsea
Mon May 09, 2016 6:41 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Cambodia Visa On Arrival?
Replies: 26
Views: 2636

RE: Cambodia Visa On Arrival?

In my experience, Cambodia requires a full page for the visa, AND, they also add stamps on another page too.

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by rwsea
Thu May 05, 2016 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Should Upgade To Virgin's Business Class
Replies: 19
Views: 6524

RE: AS Should Upgade To Virgin's Business Class

As others mention, <acronym title="Alaska Airlines (USA)">AS</acronym> is in the process of refreshing its first class offering. Still, it's quite a different value proposition than what <acronym title="ACES (Colombia)">VX</acronym> offers. <acronym title="Alaska Airlines (USA)">AS</acronym> operate...

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by rwsea
Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Average Daily O&D Load On ATL-Doha, 5 Passengers?
Replies: 44
Views: 17141

Average Daily O&D Load On ATL-Doha, 5 Passengers?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/simairlinenet" class="quote" target="_blank">simairlinenet</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>That's the current local market ...

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by rwsea
Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO
Replies: 68
Views: 7717

RE: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EA+CO+AS" class="quote" target="_blank">EA CO AS</a> (<a href="#29" class="quote">Reply 29</a>):<br/><i>As opposed to saying what? "Gosh folks, ...

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by rwsea
Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO
Replies: 68
Views: 7717

RE: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EA+CO+AS" class="quote" target="_blank">EA CO AS</a> (<a href="#26" class="quote">Reply 26</a>):<br/><i>Because it's still fairly new.</i></font...

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by rwsea
Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO
Replies: 68
Views: 7717

RE: AS Fuel Stops Out Of SJO

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/EA+CO+AS" class="quote" target="_blank">EA CO AS</a> (<a href="#5" class="quote">Reply 5</a>):<br/><i>Not common at all; about 6-8 times total s...

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by rwsea
Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL To Suspend ATL-BRU Until 2017
Replies: 45
Views: 15168

RE: DL To Suspend ATL-BRU Until 2017

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DolphinAir747" class="quote" target="_blank">DolphinAir747</a> (<a href="#19" class="quote">Reply 19</a>):<br/><i>Why would anyone fly that? Tha...

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by rwsea
Fri Apr 01, 2016 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amtrak Cascades Impact On SEA-PDX
Replies: 63
Views: 12331

RE: Amtrak Cascades Impact On SEA-PDX

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Texdravid" class="quote" target="_blank">Texdravid</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i>The "improvements" don't mean a hill o...

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