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by Indy
Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

I think I have the answer to what's going on near S. Perimeter Road. It's a temporary concrete batch plant. Here's a recent image from Google Maps: https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4560/37666247685_59974d0a45_b.jpg To get this image via Google Maps, access Satellite View, then click off 3D in the Men...

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Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

You saw the photo posted above with the work being done. Clearly something is going over the interstate so I think we can move beyond the debate of "if" something is being built over I-70 and talk about "what" is being built over I-70. It isn't speculation. It is pretty clear in...

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by Indy
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Runway planning started over a decade ago. Construction doesn't take as long as you might think. Thanks to Google imagery, you can determine the length of time it took to build 5L/23R. According to the IND Capacity Plan, it was to be constructed in late 1995. The 2nd runway was originally slated as ...

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Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Another thought. Would a significant amount of money have been spent to relocate and lower the interstate if the runway hadn't already received the green light? That relocation was a significant cost. I doubt over a hundred million dollars in federal funds gets spent on a project to relocate a road ...

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by Indy
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

All of the budgeted capital improvement projects are listed in line-item detail in the budget: https://d1j6zi7czwjuok.cloudfront.net/iaa-images/business/2018-Appropriation-Budget-Book_APPROVED_08-18-17.pdf Stuff like new taxiways and new runways is not done under secrecy. Despite land acquisition a...

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by Indy
Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Like said above, there would be ample public documentation, plans, environmental impact statements, and coordination with other governmental agencies if there was anything even remotely as some of you are thinking like bridges for anything over I-70, taxiways, runways, etc. This stuff is all public...

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by Indy
Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

The construction of nearly anything at a public facility, such as an airport, is easily researched just simply by looking at project plans, meeting minutes, and other official documents. This is especially true for airports which use federal dollars for construction. Capital Projects are defined lo...

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by Indy
Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Looking at where this is being constructed, it is probably not a taxiway. It doesn't cross I-70 at the low point which means this bridge cannot go straight across. Not sure a raised taxiway bridge will be built here. But this is clearly FedEx related and likely the beginning to the whole runway proj...

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by Indy
Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

So IND is having or had a meeting to discuss construction projects. "Dirt" got pointed out on the IND Facebook group and an image from Google Earth was shared. This is a very recent image. I'm including the image so others can see it. Looks to me like there may be construction started on s...

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by Indy
Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emotional support pig removed from plane
Replies: 52
Views: 8905

Re: Emotional support pig removed from plane

Lingon wrote:
Read this one..

BTW, recycling news maybe is good for the environment? :duck:


LOL. Nobody took ownership of the croc. Question: were all small children and animals accounted for after the flight? :-)

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by Indy
Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emotional support pig removed from plane
Replies: 52
Views: 8905

Re: Emotional support pig removed from plane

I want to get an emotional support alligator. I can see the headline now "Passenger removed after emotional support alligator eats first class passenger." :-)

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by Indy
Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

I say IND-RSW because during Q1 IND-RSW, in terms of PDEW, is a larger market than IND-TPA and IND-MIA+FLL Yes, they could easily run all of those flights, but you know how DL feels about ATL and I doubt they want to many flights out of IND overflying their baby.... I looked at this coming spring a...

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by Indy
Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

There used to be significant service to Florida from IND. Just look at the history of IND to Florida routes. TZ ran L1011's to MCO. NW ran numerous Florida routes. Those routes (with the exception of MIA I believe) were daily and sometimes 2x+ daily. FL (before it was taken over by WN) ran a ton of ...

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by Indy
Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA adding DFW-KEF
Replies: 169
Views: 17414

Re: AA adding DFW-KEF

This is not a bright move on AA's part. How do they think this will go? They can offer no connections out of KEF so they are relying 100% on O/D. How much demand do they believe there is? Unlikely it is very much. And of that demand they will have the highest fares. They cannot compete in price and ...

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by Indy
Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Anything happening in IND this weekend? I'm looking at flights out of IND on Sunday, and prices are extremely high with many sold out flights (VX IND-SFO sold out, AS IND-SEA sold out, WN IND-LAX sold out, e.t.c) Nothing that I know of this weekend. There is a decent size (25k) convention next week...

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by Indy
Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Working on a few spreadsheets, feel free to take a peek: Combining data from the O&D survey to see how yield and avg fare compare at IND to other mid-sized airports https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14jctofQ8wZmcIkWpNPnQPqW6vU-BZ6YtMrIar8oXzZs/edit#gid=1941088381 Dang the yields out of AUS...

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by Indy
Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Maho Beach cam back up and running Nov. 7
Replies: 4
Views: 1575

Re: Maho Beach cam back up and running Nov. 7

Thanks for sharing. Glad to see it back. Eventually the island will recover.

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by Indy
Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: MCI New Terminal Vote Passed
Replies: 101
Views: 9283

Re: MCI New Terminal Vote

"In Platte County, the new terminal was fetching 75 percent of the vote with nearly half of the precincts reporting. In Clay County, two-thirds of the precincts were in and a new terminal was winning with 70 percent of the vote." http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article18...

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by Indy
Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should AS look at an East Coast hub
Replies: 101
Views: 9879

Re: Should AS look at at East Coast hub

PIT/CLE/CVG/MKE has the potential gate space, IND does not for such an operation.... Not unless IND proceeds with the 2020 model which is to extend each concourse by 10 gates. If IND had an opportunity to become an AS hub I think they'd jump all over that. There is also space available for detached...

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by Indy
Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should AS look at an East Coast hub
Replies: 101
Views: 9879

Re: Should AS look at at East Coast hub

It's not that HAVING hubs is an outdated business model. It's BUILDING hubs in secondary cities that's the outdated/failed business model. I think hubs in general are dated. The push seems to be towards point-to-point flying. You might need some hubs otherwise really small cities will have little t...

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by Indy
Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Should AS look at an East Coast hub
Replies: 101
Views: 9879

Re: Should AS look at at East Coast hub

Plowing capital into turnkey hubs to chase market share is a 20+ year old model that dosent work. If anyone were to try it the punishment from Wall Street would be severe. Granted, this aviation version of Fantasy Football is entertaining but management knows were aren't living in 1987. This doesn'...

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by Indy
Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

I was looking at Google Maps and noticed a very large cleared out area by the AAR maintenance center. What is that for? Is something being built there or is that just a long term cleared out area?

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by Indy
Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

If you've booked a seat on IND-CDG in Comfort+, you've been booted out of your seat. There were 8 seats in Comfort+ and all were moved to the main cabin. It was a glitch related to a product change. You will likely have to call and fight to get your seat back. Don't let them tell you it is an equipm...

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by Indy
Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

https://www.ibj.com/articles/12598-mans ... port-hotel
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So this was in the news 10 years ago today. The plan obviously died. Will we ever see this built?

https://www.ibj.com/articles/12598-mans ... port-hotel

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by Indy
Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

The fact they can't even maintain 1x daily to DEN tells me they aren't really serious about IND at all.

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by Indy
Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Looking at the latest OAG thread I have to wonder how much F9 will have left here. Looks like they are cutting back frequencies at IND even more.

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by Indy
Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

http://dl.fltmaps.com/en
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I noticed that IND-CDG still isn't showing on the DL route map.

http://dl.fltmaps.com/en

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by Indy
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta: International Main Cabin dining reinvented
Replies: 60
Views: 7805

Re: Delta: International Main Cabin dining reinvented

A few years back I flew a lot of DL domestic F and the food was very questionable. A lot of back and forth between ATL and SAN. Domestic meal service needs a lot of work. My last experience with DL meal service on an international flight was DTW-AMS. It was pretty good. Not great but good. Best meal...

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by Indy
Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

If DL wanted to they could have had the midwest (specifically IND) market to themselves around 3-5 or so years ago, WN/AA/UA did not have the presences they have today in IND. But instead of expanding DL choped up tons of flying, especially the p2p flying, regardless of whether the routes were prof...

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by Indy
Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Should we be worried about the inaugural flight bookings? I count only 33 seats booked on the first flight as of 10/14. You can't go by the seat map. There are actually quite a few more seats sold. Take a look at CVG-CDG for the same day. Look at the front of the plane. Note that A5 and A6 are bloc...

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by Indy
Thu Oct 12, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Princess Juliana Airport set to reopen October 6th
Replies: 148
Views: 25132

Re: Princess Juliana Airport set to reopen October 6th

The way the Dutch Saint Maarten locals explained it to me, the beach naturally disappears during the summer/fall months, replaced by rock and boulders and usually around late October to early November, mother nature brings the beach back. Truck loads of sand are not brought in. That is a myth. This...

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by Indy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

I'm sure both IND and CVG could support it in the long term . But, once IND-CDG is running under its own dime (or just running in general) I think airlines will look higher at IND. We're clearly the better city (conventions, city life, quicker growth and development), better airport and city infras...

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by Indy
Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Yeah, I don't know the order in which DY/D8 will add cities, I just suspected DY/D8 would be the most likely possibility for a flight to LHR/LGW, not to say IND was next in line to get that flight.. Now that CVG has WW, it seems less likely they will get DY/D8. Not sure they can support a 3rd TATL ...

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by Indy
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

"Rodriguez expects more "a few more" new routes to be announced at the beginning of next year." :stirthepot: http://www.insideindianabusiness.com/story/36540535/nonstops-traffic-nearing-records-at-indy-airport "Rodriguez’s data comes from the most recent MIT Airport Connect...

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by Indy
Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

I know we kind of discussed it not long ago, but given the rate of growth at IND, how does it handle the expansion over the next 5 years? If IND manages a 3% growth rate for the next 5 years, we will be near the 10 million passenger mark. With G4 promising to expand, AS likely to expand, and SY indi...

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by Indy
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

IND Tweeted that we are 1 nonstop away from our record. I am not sure that is accurate. Didn't US Air fly a lot more nonstop destinations during the hub days when their service topped out at nearly 150 flights a day?

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by Indy
Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

Can you imagine flying a route like IND-LAX on NK? That would be a completely horrible experience. If you have any kind of knee problems you will likely be in great pain by the time you arrive.

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by Indy
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017
Replies: 789
Views: 58037

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread 2017

I seriously hope NK never shows its face in IND. A 28 inch pitch is an insult to commercial travel. That is far below anything that should be legally allowed. A 28 inch pitch says you give zero crap about your customers. So no... no NK ever! We don't need IND to be the race to the bottom.

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by Indy
Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kirby: I expect UA will become the world's largest airline
Replies: 96
Views: 14225

Re: Kirby: I expect UA will become the world's largest airline

Challenge to Kirby: Instead of shooting for a meaningless title like "biggest airline", why not shoot for something more relevant like "better airline." What is the point of being biggest when all you are doing is providing poor service at a very large scale? Not really somethin...

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by Indy
Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kirby: I expect UA will become the world's largest airline
Replies: 96
Views: 14225

Re: Kirby: I expect UA will become the world's largest airline

Challenge to Kirby: Instead of shooting for a meaningless title like "biggest airline", why not shoot for something more relevant like "better airline." What is the point of being biggest when all you are doing is providing poor service at a very large scale? Not really something...

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by Indy
Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Milwaukee Next Base for OneJet
Replies: 30
Views: 3319

Re: Milwaukee Next Base for OneJet

I am not buying this business is profitable. Maybe they include the handouts they get to start new routes? Once the handouts dry up they will move somewhere else.

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by Indy
Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018
Replies: 61
Views: 11885

Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

MD80 wrote:
Hopefully, Lufthansa will retain their livery IMO. The Corporate ID is a masterpiece and needs no change.


Unless someone made the mistake of hiring a consultant.

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by Indy
Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

zackary747 wrote:
Anyone have the link or document to the board meetings comments about FedEx?


It is at the bottom of the first post.

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by Indy
Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. This looks like work to modify /expand/relocate the storm water collection system to enable FedEx expansion. Especially if they are going to be significantly expanding the amount of paved/built surfaces around airport property. Nowhere does this even sound remotely...

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by Indy
Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

https://www.indairport.org/downloads/capacity/IND.pdf
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Here is the capacity enhancement plan that was drafted a long time ago. Shows, in theory, where runways could be added. I doubt 5C/23C or 14E/32E will ever happen but the one that will likely be built is 5S/23S.

https://www.indairport.org/downloads/capacity/IND.pdf

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by Indy
Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

Another runway just for FedEx? That is a big capital expenditure building an extra runway just for them. IND has two parallel and a crosswind runway at IND just like SDF for UPS however SDF has many more parking positions. Perhaps fedex feels they need three parallel runways like they have at MEM a...

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by Indy
Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

Re: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

According to the engineering company's website, this is their part in the project: "Wessler provided Watershed Modeling Services in conjunction with the expansion of the cargo apron for the FedEx Facilities at the Indianapolis International Airport. The Seerley Creek Drainage Basin was modeled ...

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by Indy
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BIG Changes Coming to MKE! 2018 Milwaukee County Budget
Replies: 3
Views: 966

Re: BIG Changes Coming to MKE! 2018 Milwaukee County Budget

At a minimum I think MKE should get an airline like WOW. I don't think they would have much of a problem filling that flight. Not sure about non LCC carriers.

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by Indy
Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?
Replies: 36
Views: 4822

IND - New Runway & Major FX Expansion Coming?

I was reading the IND board documents from the August 2017 meeting and it seems that something big is about to happen at IND in regards to FedEx. The board memo background section states: "FedEx has committed to expansion at the Indianapolis International Airport that will have major economic i...

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