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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2179
Views: 273677

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Would it be possible and would it be desirable for them to design the MOM/NMA/797 to have a "wettable cargo hold", as in, how airplanes use "wet wings" where the wing skin doubles as the exterior of the fuel tank to save weight and maximize fuel storage volume? I am going to gue...

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Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 145
Views: 20636

Re: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes

If aircraft are too late as per the contract and miss performance? Of course an airline can cancel. They are being smart and rebidding before canceling. The A330NEO was sold as low risk and with earlier delivery slots than the 787. I'm sure many vendor contact clauses were violated. It is not good ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100
Replies: 39
Views: 5318

Re: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100

So I'm guessing you're thinking E2 for spirit, CSeries for Jetblue? I think a lot more folks will start looking at this segment now that the CASM difference is pretty well disappeared. https://airinsight.com/an-update-on-the-e2-program-at-embraer/ Yes, E2 for spirit and C-series for JetBlue. Your l...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2
Replies: 91
Views: 4218

Re: Indian aviation thread 2018 part 2

DGCA has published March traffic figures. Indian aviation continues to show strong growth. Domestic passenger numbers grew by 28.03% in March 2018. This is the 43rd consecutive month of double digit passenger growth! From Jan to Mar this year traffic has grown by 23.87% As expected GoAir and IndiGo...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?

That said, Steve is running a numbers-driven airline, and ultimately the manufacturer who offers a better deal (including maintenance) will win the day. Lessons have been learned from the initial E190 introduction, those mistakes won't be made again. Absolutely agree. The contract will be very long...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100
Replies: 39
Views: 5318

Re: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100

So I'm guessing you're thinking E2 for spirit, CSeries for Jetblue? I think a lot more folks will start looking at this segment now that the CASM difference is pretty well disappeared. https://airinsight.com/an-update-on-the-e2-program-at-embraer/ Yes, E2 for spirit and C-series for JetBlue. Your l...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Serbia to limit airport growth outside Belgrade
Replies: 7
Views: 1188

Re: Serbia to limit airport growth outside Belgrade

Ummm... You cannot push people to use an airport, only discourage them... This will hurt Serbia's economic growth.

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100
Replies: 39
Views: 5318

Re: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100

I'd love to know the timeline. My opinion of what Spirit will choose is the opposite of JetBlue. Why? Different mission lengths. Lightsaber So I'm guessing you're thinking E2 for spirit, CSeries for Jetblue? I think a lot more folks will start looking at this segment now that the CASM difference is...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?

What I'd like to see Order for 60 + 60 options for the E195E2 What I'm more expecting Order for 60+60 options for a mix of CS100's and 300's I agree on the quantity. I think the CASM if the E2-190 is too high. There could be enough markets sized small. I believe most E-190 markets have matured enou...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?

Serious question, how much money does JetBlue have on deposit with Embraer? How much will it cost to break the contract? Following link notes JetBlue has leases on E-190 to 2023 to 2025. However, there are always early return terms. Https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/05/08/why-jetblue-just-might-st...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?

The only new recent bit if info it that the FAs at B6 Unionized a couple days ago. The E190 needs just 2 FAs, the 195 and CS need 3. With labor costs on the rise now from both Pilot and FA groups, will it be worth it to pick the 195 over the 190 and need a extra FA just for a extra 20 or so seats? ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100
Replies: 39
Views: 5318

Re: Bloomberg: Spirit May Buy E190 or CS100

I'd love to know the timeline. My opinion of what Spirit will choose is the opposite of JetBlue. Why? Different mission lengths. I’m a believer. These planes are perfect for secondary city pairs, with similar economics to the larger mainline narrowbodies but the mainline carriers unions scope clause...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Jetblue E190 Decision and Europe news

I'm thinking A321LR for Europe. Hint: just to remind JetBlue still has 24 paid to Embraer that weren't not received yet ... Source:https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/09/jetblues-fleet-review-should-wrap-up-soon-and-its.aspx Excerpts: "The first CSeries jets have already entered service and ...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL, 1 fatality
Replies: 590
Views: 90764

Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

The pilots aren't going to say anything; I wonder if it would be helpful for the f/as to be trained perhaps to announce something about the rapid descent. There may be a million reasons not to have them do this, but there are at least a few reasons that it would be helpful. Because they were in the...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:08 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Volga-Dnepr to withdraw from An-124 freighter contract for EU and NATO
Replies: 41
Views: 7203

Re: Volga-Dnepr to withdraw from An-124 freighter contract for EU and NATO

Both the European and the US aviation industry have neglected heavy lift (Military) capability for years, yes decades , because we got sweet ´90 cent per KG´ deals from ´external service providers´. UA is not going to fill the gap, China´s ambitions on restarting ´225 production needs to be taken w...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 123
Views: 17600

Re: Jetblue E190 Decision and Europe news

I'm disappointed there wasn't news today. Will it be C-series or E2-195? I've prognosticated on other threads the C-series, but I want to know am I right or am I eating crow? JetBlue Airway Q1 Earnings Call is April 24 http://investor.jetblue.com/investor-relations/events-and-presentations/events-ca...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL, 1 fatality
Replies: 590
Views: 90764

Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL

The pilots aren't going to say anything; I wonder if it would be helpful for the f/as to be trained perhaps to announce something about the rapid descent. There may be a million reasons not to have them do this, but there are at least a few reasons that it would be helpful. Because they were in the...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Middle East Airlines (MEA) decision next month: Airbus A330-900neo or Boeing 787-9
Replies: 44
Views: 5395

Re: Middle East Airlines (MEA) decision next month: Airbus A330-900neo or Boeing 787-9

I’ll be honest here.. I think they are gonna go for Airbus but then get a better offer by Boeing with extra options... The A330NEO is gonna die off with no buyers Normally, this order wouldn't interest me. However, this year is facinating. It is a great time to bid the A330NEO vs. 789! If the A339 ...

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by lightsaber
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 145
Views: 20636

Re: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes

Problem for Boeing: if they try to repeat the AA order again - underbidding Airbus again - you´ll immediately have a whole lot of current and like future 787 clients on your doorsteps threatening to pull a simiarl stunt . Either Boeing lowers their price, or they move to Airbus - it´s quite a hot f...

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by lightsaber
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 145
Views: 20636

Re: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes

I don’t think this is a minor issue. Taking on a concentration like that works for EK at the very top end of the scale but it does have its own problems which have caused issues even for an airline of that size. If I ran Air Asia X I am of course asking for a better price but before I commit fully ...

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by lightsaber
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 145
Views: 20636

Re: Air Asia X cancels A350. Decision on fleet expected later this year.

IMHO Boeing has 3 things going for them right now: *A higher production rate that allows them to secure future deliveries . (Clearing of the backlog is helping a lot) *Better pricing than past 787 campaigns *Seizing the opportunity of the change of leadership at Airbus. Leahy out of the way is a bi...

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by lightsaber
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 145
Views: 20636

Re: Air Asia X cancels A350. Decision on fleet expected later this year.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/airasia-x-wont-buy-too-expensive-airbus-a350-tony-fernandes/articleshow/63783949.cms It is blindingly obvious Fernandes wants a price reduction.... "The A350 is not an aircraft we will buy," AirAsia X co-group CEO Tony Fernan...

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by lightsaber
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Global 7000 range better than expected at 7700 nm
Replies: 27
Views: 3959

Re: Global 7000 range better than expected at 7700 nm

Good news the Global 7000 is turning out to be beter than expected. Possibly developing the shortened 8000 isn't required anymore. Or it's range could increase as well to over 8200NM. Didn't Bombardier try to improve the Learjet with the Learjet 85, that turned out disastrous. AFAIK the Challengers...

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by lightsaber
Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Global 7000 range better than expected at 7700 nm
Replies: 27
Views: 3959

Re: Global 7000 range better than expected at 7700 nm

Oh my... No need for the Global 8000 now. :) Well done Bombardier and GE. Now get delivering as demand for the Global 6000 is dropping and the poor resale market pretty much killed the 5000. This puts Gulfstream and RR in a bind as the G650ER is no longer the clear top of the market. Gulfstream has ...

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by lightsaber
Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN codesharing: One of the biggest untapped markets today?
Replies: 23
Views: 2208

Re: WN codesharing: One of the biggest untapped markets today?

WN needs to upgrade their computer systems to fully realize the profit benefits of code sharing. They definitely can and probably will at some point, but looking at their load factors, it is not critical to fill their planes with interlining passengers. It won't be critical, but it will be profitabl...

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by lightsaber
Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 239
Views: 25777

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Where do you think the A350 CFRP panel technology was developed from? As a tip I'll offer a reminder that there is more CFRP in an A380 than in a 787. And most of it is concentrated in one particular part of the plane. In panel form :) Rgds I cannot say for sure... but, that may be moot if Boeing h...

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by lightsaber
Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Q400 vs Embraer 175-E2: Death of The Quiet One?
Replies: 29
Views: 5769

Re: Q400 vs Embraer 175-E2: Death of The Quiet One?

The E175-E2 will definitely not be the death of the Q400. Crew costs on a Q400 will be lower than the E175-E2. Especially at this point in time that it looks like airlines that want to fly it will have to do so at the main line level, where as the Q400 can be flown at the regional level. The Q400 c...

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by lightsaber
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 Minutes to skewer Allegiant Air this Sunday
Replies: 138
Views: 24939

Re: 60 Minutes to skewer Allegiant Air this Sunday

Their target audience age of 80+ doesn’t fly Spirit anyways, may as well add a few stories about people getting kicked off planes for “no reason” too :rotfl: I cannot get excited about 60 minutes. They we're too sensationalist decades ago. Seriously, I do not know anyone below 75 who watches. It us...

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by lightsaber
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How huge is Frankfurt airport?
Replies: 49
Views: 8378

Re: How huge is Frankfurt airport?

Frankfurt is huge in the number of destinations. However, it has fallen to #14 by passenger traffic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic The reality is FRA hasn't grown in facilities in too long. It once was right there with ATL, ORD, and LAX. Eh... It is li...

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by lightsaber
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:19 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Fixed airfares - is it possible? Should airlines be regulated again?
Replies: 7
Views: 939

Re: Fixed airfares - is it possible? Should airlines be regulated again?

Dynamic pricing is extremely important to industries with high fixed costs like airlines, hotels, trains, freight, etc. Take a look at the price of refundable fares. That’s likely the price we would pay for not allowing dynamic pricing. For that matter, we need more dynamic pricing in society, not ...

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is IST-SYD next?
Replies: 65
Views: 7951

Re: Is IST-SYD next?

I think we will see it by 2019 or most probably by 2020 when 789 and 359 join TK fleet. I not only expect IST-SYD and IST-MEL but also IST-PER as well when the flight rights granted. Either of those airframes. However, I do not expect it to be the first set of flights for TK with either airframe. D...

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: airport to serve the pasadena during tournament of roses parade?
Replies: 6
Views: 435

Re: airport to serve the pasadena during tournament of roses parade?

BUR or LAX.

Or fly into LGB and drive up the 110.

Use Google maps. There just isn't a super close airport. Welcome to LA traffic.

Lightsaber

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russia considering cutting supply of Titanium to Boeing
Replies: 24
Views: 5684

Re: Russia considering cutting supply of Titanium to Boeing

The government does indeed sit on titanium reserves.

Hmm... So much for the Russian titanium valley. Time for India and the Ukraine to boost production.

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Embraer E2 Flight Testing And Production Thread - 2018
Replies: 193
Views: 21516

Re: Embraer E2 Flight Testing And Production Thread - 2018

Serious question, when will the E2 jets have flown more (hours or cycles) than the ARJ-21? Embraer makes good aircraft that will fly 8+ hours and 6+ cycles per day per aircraft. The ARJ fleet is flying 4 cycles and 6 hours per day. Yes, the whole fleet... Or 1 cycle and 1.5 hours per aircraft. I fig...

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Good piece on retired aircraft.
Replies: 1
Views: 1617

Re: Good piece on retired aircraft.

Per link, for a fairly new A320, engines are 80% to 90% of value! Ok, that tells me what they are scrapping is less popular models. It also shows that new airframes are already putting pricing pressure. I believe there is more than 2% counterfeit parts out there if one includes Iran. That said, ther...

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetSuiteX moving to DFW and growing to 100 RJs
Replies: 29
Views: 5789

Re: JetSuiteX moving to DFW and growing to 100 RJs

Interesting. Going from 5 to 100 aircraft will be a challenge... I'll watch and let other people invest. ;)

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LA City Council Approves People Mover for LAX
Replies: 60
Views: 6946

Re: LA City Council Approves People Mover for LAX

About freakin' time. The demand for mass transit in LA/Orange Counties has been steadily declining since the recession and is overwhelmingly utilized by those who can't afford a car. In other words -- demographics that don't bond well for air travel. Just a waste of money... Why so expensive? Even ...

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by lightsaber
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will the ME3 become irrelevant?
Replies: 63
Views: 7738

Re: Will the ME3 become irrelevant?

No, at least not EK/DXB. On top of being a great transit location, Dubai is also a really great place to visit. You make a good point. Etihad (EY) is stuggling, Qatar has such sketchy records I think they will always need periodic investment. In particular after the new IST opens and allows TK/pega...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?
Replies: 239
Views: 19454

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?

[url][/url] CAPA's take on the recent developments https://www.capaindia.com/air-india-privatisation Kapil Kaul has been a strong votary for the privatisation AI. Interesting read, on particular the October 2017 recommendations. Air India is an opportunity and a risk. That link neglected to mention ...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian
Replies: 227
Views: 28041

Re: IAG considering placing a bid for Norwegian

It would surprise me if the ceo who is the majority owner and controls the company is interested in selling. Certainly not for the sum that is presented today. It’s only worth what the market it willing to pay. If Norwegian is worth more... Sell to whom bids more. In my opinion the enterprise has a...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?
Replies: 239
Views: 19454

Re: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?

Looks like the bid might be sweetened with a further 3,500 crore reduction in debt. http://www.financialexpress.com/infrastructure/airlines-aviation/air-india-sale-government-may-assume-more-liabilities/1130074/lite/ It is better to save the sale now than later. My opinion:. The sale is just too big...

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by lightsaber
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?
Replies: 239
Views: 19454

Re: Air India Privatization by June

I guess the GoI is stuck with AI. Can they really afford to keep them? As i have been saying right from the beginning on this topic, the sale will never happen. Reform first, sell stake later - that is the right approach to take. Air India has what it takes to be a successful airline. Give them aut...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?
Replies: 239
Views: 19454

Re: Air India Privatization by June

Of course the unions are protesting: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/potential-bidders-arm-twisting-govt-on-air-india-saleunions/articleshow/63715435.cms "The so-claimed probable buyers are using arm twisting tactics so as to put pressure on the ...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India Privatization, by June-decision?
Replies: 239
Views: 19454

Re: Air India Privatization by June-decision

Tatas may pull out too : https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/now-tata-group-unlikely-to-participate-in-air-india-sale-sources/articleshow/63709722.cms Well.. that makes a failed 1st attempt to sell Air India. Time for the GoI to dramatically alter the terms. Or just accept t...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Discussion thread for multi-airport cities/metropolitan areas: pros & cons, scenarios and patterns
Replies: 57
Views: 3604

Re: Discussion thread for multi-airport cities/metropolitan areas: pros & cons, scenarios and patterns

The downside to split hubs if fewer connections. Take Paris, ORY handles (going from memory here, dangerous) 27 flights CDG doesn't. That is 27 flights (assuming the number is accurate) that cannot connect to the majority of the long haul network. In today's world of click and fly internet planning,...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?
Replies: 58
Views: 12700

Re: How many of Emirates' A380s are actually active and flying?

Doubt all you like, it is payload restricted, to the order of 10-15 tonnes depending on the time of year. It can be up to 100 seats and the 380 needs to carry in excess of 220t of fuel to make the trip, how do I know? I’ve commanded the westbound sector numerous times. Just to reiterate previous co...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study
Replies: 239
Views: 25777

Re: Airbus shelves A320neo-plus study

Fuel costs are approx twice the cost of purchase. So, if the A321 costs ~20% less to buy than the 797 (so, say $55m as opposed to $66m), then the 797 must be ~10% more fuel efficient than the A321 averaged across the use spectrum to pay its way. [Assuming that mx, crew costs etc are a wash] Wouldn'...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Attempted spy assasination in UK?
Replies: 429
Views: 10794

Re: Attempted spy assasination in UK?

Discuss the topics and not each other or this thread will be locked. Warnings have already been issued.

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can a better way to transport pet be created in aviation world?
Replies: 45
Views: 2502

Re: Can a better way to transport pet be created in aviation world?

I pay extra for JetBlue's jet with a pet. Only small dogs allowed. The pet is with owners and it is the one time I want to hub to give our dog a bathroom break. To those posting to not fly with a pet: I plan trips around the dog. No pet, no flight. I can borrow a RV and will withdraw my funds from a...

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by lightsaber
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China—Africa Connectivity Thread
Replies: 18
Views: 1877

Re: China—Africa Connectivity Thread

How can there be a lack of service if demand is met? The reality is there isn't a huge Africa international demand. I'm afraid this is a tough market because you got the ME3 inbetween. There's hardly any pair of major cities in China and Africa that isn't connected one-stop through Dubai or anything...

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