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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

. Since you're clearly going to ignore reality of what every airline has done, then there's no point debating it with you. No wonder we rarely get meaningful discussions or action about airline practices. It's not about the sin in this case. It's about the attitude of the sinner. When the same end ...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 711
Views: 93369

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

You're assuming they just swap out a plane that is already serving that purpose when they don't have a plane like this at the moment. By that premise, UA should be flying 777's on a route currently with demand for less than 100 Y pax. Whatever routes these planes fly, UA will have to shift pricing ...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018
Replies: 213
Views: 30962

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Fleet plans 10 years out are practically worthless. Shoot, DL acquired and is retiring a whole new fleet type in 10 years! (MD-90) Pilot rumors are sadly very unreliable. You would think they know what's going on, but usually they don't.

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 60 Minutes to skewer Allegiant Air this Sunday
Replies: 138
Views: 24851

Re: 60 Minutes to skewer Allegiant Air this Sunday

60 Minutes still regularly pulls in very high numbers, given the landscape of broadcasting as it is now. In their glory days, there were only 3 networks, so of course their numbers would’ve been easily doubled (or more) from what they are today. As far as a regular news oriented program, no one com...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

And the arrogance of some posters is a clear example of why the combined DL/NW FA group chose not to be unionized. Any updates on the Sun Country predicament? Has anyone from the media asked the CEO why a plane wasn't chartered? The only thing more humorous than a standard personal attack (which me...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 711
Views: 93369

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

It will not be a general international aircraft, most 763s will keep the standard configuration of 30J/184Y, and the 76L will not be a transcon aircraft either. The 76Ls will be used to destinations like LHR, GVA, and ZRH, from the rumors I'm hearing (and this is still a few years from fruition) is...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

And you clearly don't understand everybody else's position. We are focused on what the end result means for passengers - and we believe most passengers would, when conditions make it necessary, prefer that the airline help them arrive home a couple of days late... rather than being told the airline...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

But really - why is it so important for you to insist that any level of effort for an airline (doesn't matter which one) to make good on fulfilling a travel commitment (particularly for international vacationers in a small "outstation") REGARDLESS of your assessment of what might be "...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

Can you not see the difference? One airline is saying, yes, we realize it is inconvenient, but here is an option to get you home on the fare you paid 3 days later. The other saying, sorry, figure it out yourself. Good luck. Yep, if it was a few days later, there would be a story - but they wouldn't...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

It is not the same result: the lady got home. The airline got her home . If you don't understand that difference... you have made up your mind, and don't want to be confused with the facts. You also are assuming that not doing everything possible for a customer and telling them to pound sand for ~3...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 711
Views: 93369

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

The 76L is not going to be dedicated to the transcons; it will be primarily international. If it shows up on TCONs, all the better, but the market does not call for such a low-volume, premium-dense configuration anymore. Premium cabin yields aren't what they used to be. What you're saying is comple...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

Same result? United is getting her home Tuesday. SY will not be getting their passengers home at any time. Again, you're not considering that a 3-day delay is not acceptable to many people. If SY brought down a plane three days later, there would still be a story here, even though it's the same res...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

It is not the same result at all. The airline made their best effort to get her home. Not strand her in SFO and tell her to figure it out. Unless you know the inner workings of UA, that cannot be determined. In fact, I know they didn't do "everything" they could. If they had, she would ha...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

You sure about that, the DL meltdowns of late got an enormous amount of attention. Yes. Certainly not the "outrage". I bet many only came away with thinking "pizza". My mother in law was scheduled to come back to MSP tonight from SFO on United. The flight was cancelled. Did Unit...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

ehhhhhh... I dunno. I cannot recall ever hearing of a legacy that has literally left two planeloads of passengers in a foreign country with no effort to assist with return (be it logistically, financially or both), even if the delay was lengthy. Can you name an example? I said "like this"...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home
Replies: 214
Views: 20733

Re: Sun Country (SY) strands hundreds of passengers in Mexico and tells them to find their own way home

It's a bush league move from SY, but let's not pretend that legacies don't pull moves like this too. A couple SY incidents is a drop in the bucket. But because of the nature of it, it's on the news. Isn’t a good portion of Sun Country’s fleet meant for Charter ops? I find it hard to believe “all” of...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 711
Views: 93369

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

That 76L configuration is insane. Never thought I would see another config on the same vein as AA's A321Ts.

Looks like the long-term P.S. plane. EWR-LAX/SFO probably has the demand needed. Will be a highly competitive product.

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by MSPNWA
Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Q1 earnings thread
Replies: 25
Views: 4590

Re: Delta Q1 earnings thread

What you say sounds nice but I would like to get some other opinions on the matter. If you weren't always anti Delta and bashing Delta, I would be more inclined to believe you. Well, I can't help you there if you automatically base your opinions on your perceived viewpoint of a user and not the act...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Q1 earnings thread
Replies: 25
Views: 4590

Re: Delta Q1 earnings thread

I don't know about that. maybe an expert can chime in but its only logical to think that the longer the flight, the more fuel you put in the tanks which obviously equates into a bigger gas bill. I think you might be confusing this with other aircraft performance metrics. It doesn't take an "ex...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Q1 earnings thread
Replies: 25
Views: 4590

Re: Delta Q1 earnings thread

Fuel is up. Delta has Trainor refinery to help offset the spike in prices. UA has all those ultra long haul flights. Surely the spike in jet fuel must be hurting UA more than any other airline. I think Delta (and AA/UA) have very little fuel hedging contracts in place. It's actually the opposite, U...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

I don't think flying has become more of a luxury item, in fact it has become less so. With the growth of Basic Economy and the no-frills airlines G4, F9, NK, and now SY, flying has become economical and mainstream. I am curious about this. What timeframe do you mean by years past? I did a bit of re...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Paul Ryan not to run for reelection
Replies: 47
Views: 1198

Re: Paul Ryan not to run for reelection

I'll help him pack. Way back I thought Ryan was a true conservative. Obviously he turned out to a be phony. He's a big government, globalist RINO that's a owns a prominent place in the Washington Swamp. He doesn't work for Americans, just like many of his R colleagues and virtually all of the other ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

NW was not sustainable. They filed chapter 11 and never came back. NW is gone. I have not suggested DTW and MSP have not lost flights. I have said that if routes are no longer being flown it is because DL can make more money elsewhere. That is a well-run business. That is reality. Same problem as j...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam TATL at PHL
Replies: 68
Views: 6010

Re: SkyTeam TATL at PHL

And how does that show that ST is struggling on US-Europe routes ? You don’t include DL hubs in this list to address your point but you include ST and OW hubs, so this is completely biaised. And a number of flights means absolutely nothing. Why would I include OW and SA hubs...maybe because they're...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the A338
Replies: 123
Views: 16089

Re: Future of the A338

In either case, it's still a win for Airbus In the latter situation, who's to say that the airline might not have gone for the 789? I'm sure Airbus would rather take a hit on revenue by taking an A338 over an A359, than see Boeing sell an 789 over an A359; any day. A sell-down from an A359 already ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: FBI Raids Trump's Lawyer & GOP Deputy Finance Chair Michael Cohen
Replies: 121
Views: 2746

Re: FBI Raids Trump's Lawyer & GOP Deputy Finance Chair Michael Cohen

This is a stunt I would expect in Communist China, not the U.S. This country is going down fast. I think we'll have an internal war soon. I don't know if it's more sad or frustrating that so many Americans celebrate as their own ship sinks just as long as it's politically enjoyable until they touch ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam TATL at PHL
Replies: 68
Views: 6010

Re: SkyTeam TATL at PHL

This seems untrue. The major U.S. markets (looking at the list of top 20 CSAs) that don't have any SkyTeam service to Europe are DEN, DFW, STL, CLE, CLT, and PHL. For Oneworld, that list is: DTW, MSP, CLE, PDX, STL. For Star Alliance, it's: MSP, CLE, PDX, STL. So it seems fair to say that SkyTeam's...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

That is 100% the assertion that I made. This thread is about the merger. I am stating it is not reality that DL is disparaging DTW and MSP for the sake of ATL. It is driven by what yields the best return of DL. You said it yourself, NW was not sustainable. That is why they merged with DL. I know yo...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

And this, my friend, was EXACTLY why Northwest needed to merge. It was doomed as a two Midwest hub airline. Delta saved the salvageable pieces of the Northwest network and the result is a much better airline. Can't tell if you're being serious or just making a joke. Not good either way, because if ...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SkyTeam TATL at PHL
Replies: 68
Views: 6010

Re: SkyTeam TATL at PHL

It's not just PHL, SkyTeam struggles in U.S./Europe markets if they don't include a DL hub on the U.S. end.

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

It is true that PMDL flight attendants outnumbered PMNW but even if that were not the case the union still would not have prevailed. It wasn't as much of a landslide as the former IAM ground workers but it was still clear as a combined work group that they favored no union at the time. The vote was...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.
Replies: 25
Views: 803

Re: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.

I said that some people get a CC permit because they are caught up in the whole NRA/Second Amendment/"Libtarz is stoopid" mentality. And there are those people. I also admitted that there are people who need CC for very real reasons: restraining orders can only do so much, law enforcement...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

Is it just me or did this line from the article seem wrong? AFAIK, there was a joint vote of DL and NW FAs and the DL side was just a bit bigger, so the lack of a union won.. Or something along those lines. As I said earlier it's misleading at best. The joint DL/NW vote is what voted down unionizat...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:10 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.
Replies: 25
Views: 803

Re: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.

Then you did not need to respond, did you? In addition to those who legitimately need concealed carry, there are probably those who want it simply to have it or, in some areas, CC permit carries more weight for identification. Why was it necessary for this congressman to bring a gun? That was the p...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.
Replies: 25
Views: 803

Re: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.

Go back and read what I wrote. I was NOT talking about ALL who concealed carry. There are some, as I said, who concealed carry for legitimate reasons. There are others who concealed carry because NRA and Second Amendment and them libtards blah, blah, blah.... Go back and read what I wrote., then co...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest
Replies: 231
Views: 18161

Re: Decade since Delta's merger with Northwest

Miss seeing the Red Tail. There's so many things that could be said, but probably the toughest part for me is having your hometown airline being gobbled up by an airline that is borderline hostile to your history and past existence. When you see UA and AA embrace public display of their history, it ...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Swamp (R)
Replies: 67
Views: 1469

Re: Swamp (R)

salttee wrote:
Franken is a comedian by trade, his offenses weren't even sexual in nature.


Quite remarkable that you can flat-up lie like that. It takes a special character to do it.

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by MSPNWA
Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.
Replies: 25
Views: 803

Re: South Carolina Congressman displays loaded gun.

I don't understand concealed carry but whatever. My problem is that SOME (not all but SOME) who want CC want so they can feel big and show off. This sounds like one of those people. "Lookie here YEE-HAW!!!" So you admit that you don't understand CC, but yet you know the motives of CC hold...

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by MSPNWA
Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

Someone's a bit testy aren't they? A simple google search of "Delta cancellation statistics" isn't turning up anything, so very much looking forward to your source. Nah, more like annoyed at the tired tactic of "I don't believe you--prove it!", as if what I stated is somehow new...

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by MSPNWA
Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Odd DL route - CLE-BDL
Replies: 23
Views: 3855

Re: Odd DL route - CLE-BDL

Again, we have the example of using LF to determine profitability. I can assure you if you look at the fares your jaw will drop. No airline would continue to fly the route if it was not profitable. FF base or not, airlines are not charities. Even with the post not talking about profitability, airli...

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by MSPNWA
Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

winginit wrote:
Source?


I figured you would resort to that. Google is your friend. Seriously, those two examples aren't some kind of secret if you actually follow DL.

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by MSPNWA
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 552
Views: 69071

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Big win for Boeing and a huge blow for Airbus. This positions AA to be an all-Boeing widebody airline. I'm not shocked that the 788 was on the order list. It's the best 763 replacement on the market today, and if 787 costs have been decreased as believed, the 788 might have gained in that area as we...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

Would love to see a concrete example of this with sources please. No problem. Two big ones just this past year. The first was them blaming the ongoing effects of their April meltdown on the initial severe weather event. Anyone on the inside knew that their internal systems failed and was the real c...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Laura Ingraham's show losing Sponsors.
Replies: 172
Views: 4708

Re: Laura Ingraham's show losing Sponsors.

You have failed at understanding the dictionary definition. You are saying that if you fight back after getting punched for your lunch money, or if you stand up to the person who belittles and mocks you publicly in the lunch area, then you are actually the bully. Don't double down on stupid by deny...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

I disagree with MSPNWA's comment about DL shrinking at SEA. I don't think they are...overall. Really the only Asian markets DL has left were HND and KIX. They transferred the SEA-LHR to VA. But I think overall, DL has been expanding. With the lack of available gates, DL has been expanding in terms ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

Dude, you have a major axe to grind on DL. Any post about DL you come in to bash it and usually with entirely incorrect facts. Lets review a few: (1) DL is not "lying" doing so would cause problems with the SEC and investors; (2) there can never be a "physical link," that just d...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

Except, without looking it up, DL execs have made statements to the extent. DL has been vocal about their FIS concerns. You can probably find some articles online. Ask yourself this question: can we trust everything that an airline publicly says, particularly this airline? Absolutely not. Actions s...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:58 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Laura Ingraham's show losing Sponsors.
Replies: 172
Views: 4708

Re: Laura Ingraham's show losing Sponsors.

You honestly have not seen the outrage from the right screaming and crying about the pus*yfication of America's youth and taunting and making fun of "safe spaces" and such? We (YOU have too) have seen it on this very board!! He is as pissed about seeing kids being gunned down as a majorit...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:47 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: President Trump is calling on the military to guard the US-Mexico border
Replies: 75
Views: 2001

Re: President Trump is calling on the military to guard the US-Mexico border

Best proposal for the military I've seen in a while. Nothing more basic in guarding your country than protecting its border.

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by MSPNWA
Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL widebody updates at SEA
Replies: 136
Views: 13713

Re: DL widebody updates at SEA

I don't know passenger counts but the respective annual reports show Pacific passenger revenue of $2,366 million in 2017 and $678 million in 2008. No, I don't think fares are up 250%. In 2Q 2008 alone NW reported $576m in Pacific revenue. That would imply that NW's revenue alone in 2008 was about t...

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