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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 126
Views: 11948

Re: United Airlines Network Thread 2018

UA seems to have given up on DCA, which is a bit surprising to me given their struggles across town at IAD. ORD is in the same boat. UA used to offer exclusively mainline service on an hourly basis while AA offered sporadic Eagle regional jets. Now the situation is reverse: AA flies all mainline an...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American's Problem: Management is Out of Touch With Customers
Replies: 150
Views: 15407

Re: American's Problem: Management is Out of Touch With Customers

Doug is basically a bean counter. If he can't see it on a spreadsheet it doesn't exist. We discussed a customer centric focus as opposed to a cost centric focus, and he insisted (sometimes arrogantly) that he was right, and that the idea of making customers happy does not produce the return. I gave...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska announces 8 destinations to be served from PAE
Replies: 145
Views: 16204

Re: Alaska announces 8 destinations to be served from PAE

My prediction is that PAE service will be very popular. The cat is out of the bag now. I know I'm excited to see the new destinations. I'd pay more to avoid SEA.

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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:40 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy
Replies: 49
Views: 1498

Re: Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

This is an opinion piece based on poor comprehension. SOME credit from 68 people. Hardly a large sample. seems like FAKE NEWS. Nothing unusual for Trump and his statistically and scientifically challenged supporters. It also ignored the 7 years of strong growth that Preceeded Trump and his attempts...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:28 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trump : Why do we let people in from (expletive) countries ?
Replies: 165
Views: 5105

Re: Trump : Why do we let people in from (expletive) countries ?

Remember when the right was outraged and shocked when Hillary made the "basket of deplorable" comment? Where is that same outrage now. Because that was deeply personal attack against roughly half of all American citizens. Complete opposite of a widely accepted general belief about some co...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American's Problem: Management is Out of Touch With Customers
Replies: 150
Views: 15407

Re: American's Problem: Management is Out of Touch With Customers

This "outrage" from Leff and others about AA's Max is one of the most ridiculous sagas I've seen yet. Everything that he has complained about is widespread in the industry. Slimline lavs are already hundreds of legacy airplanes. It's nothing new, and it's nothing that will prevent AA from ...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 125
Views: 17212

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

Well that hunch will be revealed soon - my guess is no conversion as no test hop taken 772: N784UA sked to exit HKG 2821/13Jan - 74 days in HKG I guess we will. I would think the first for Polaris would take longer, so I'm not sure which side I would bet on. But even if it didn't get any mods, it b...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL: Delay of C-Series Will Be Solved by Extending Other Aircraft
Replies: 45
Views: 10782

Re: DL: Delay of C-Series Will Be Solved by Extending Other Aircraft

I have to believe it will be a collective effort to compensate for CSeries delays. I'd think any of the CR2, A320, MD-88, and MD-90 fleets will be called upon to stay in service longer. I'm waiting for Delta to be the first large commercial airline to fly a 40 year old plane in the US :-P Pretty sur...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 125
Views: 17212

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

When does the first 777-200ER begin Polaris reconfiguration? I have no insider information, but I have a hunch N784UA is already in HKG to get modifications. It's been there two months already, and it visited XMN a couple times in the past couple years for maintenance, so it seems strange to be in ...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska "Beyond" problems, Seattle Times finally catches on
Replies: 125
Views: 20195

Re: Alaska "Beyond" problems, Seattle Times finally catches on

Friends flying the west coast for business noticed the decline in Alaska (versus Delta) two years ago. Seriously so. Seattle papers have covered aviation accurately and presciently for years. Keep in mind that top notch reporters develop and cultivate deep sources. They never get quoted, never get ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest orders more 737 Max 8s and defers 737 Max 7s
Replies: 105
Views: 15099

Re: Southwest orders more 737 Max 8s and defers 737 Max 7s

Unless WN is looking at retiring 73Gs - which doesn't seem imminent as the oldest is only a hair over 20 years old - the Max 7 really doesn't have much use for them yet. The MAX 8 is much more useful in the short-term.

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by MSPNWA
Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA114 HNL-DEN 30Dec 757-300
Replies: 27
Views: 6605

Re: UA114 HNL-DEN 30Dec 757-300

Tomorrow LAX/SFO-HNL each have a 753 operating 1 flight, and on SFO - OGG the 753 is operating 2 flights. UA has been flying the 753 to Hawaii on a daily basis since the merger. "Beyond" the West Coast. The 753s have been a long-time staple from the West Coast to Hawaii for both carriers,...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA114 HNL-DEN 30Dec 757-300
Replies: 27
Views: 6605

Re: UA114 HNL-DEN 30Dec 757-300

Bet people in J who expected a bed seat in J on the 752 were bummed to have sit up straight for a long flight! I bet. I would be. But for the 8 that would have been bumped to F, they were happy! A tale of winners and losers. UA and DL have flown their 757-300's beyond the West Coast and into Hawaii...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ATL and MSP to HNL going to 764 and 763 this spring
Replies: 18
Views: 3382

Re: Delta ATL and MSP to HNL going to 764 and 763 this spring

Anyone know why Delta is changing from A333 to 764 on ATL-HNL flight and to 763 on MSP-HNL? I looked at multiple weeks in April and May. Is it going back to Airbus in the future? Thanks. Mostly to do with shifting the better A333 J product to LHR and other more premium destinations. It's a big hit ...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017
Replies: 1935
Views: 313226

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

That is what is infuriating to me for consistency and customer service, the lack of it. Even with a 737....there is an inconsistency on our aircraft especially in F Class, and Coach... A 737 regardless of -700, -800, -900, should be consistent. I get being different from the Airbus...but even so......

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by MSPNWA
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR
Replies: 45
Views: 5299

Re: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR

usxguy wrote:
LAX/HNL for $298 one way on SY... United is charging $408 for a flight almost at the same time.

LAX-HNL is 1025A ar 110P
HNL-LAX is 210P arr 1045P


Good price and I like the timing. My favorite time to arrive and leave is in the afternoon.

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by MSPNWA
Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR
Replies: 45
Views: 5299

Re: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR

jumbojet wrote:
MSP-HNL is served non-stop by DL, with an A330 to boot. Why in the world would someone want to throw in a Layover and nearly double the trip on a 747 non-the-less?


Price. Desire to break-up a long flight into two stages. SY's product. Lots of potential reasons.

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by MSPNWA
Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR
Replies: 45
Views: 5299

Re: SY announces LAX-HNL and MSP-MYR

MSP-LAX-HNL is overdue. I thought SY would go for it after they received ETOPS certification a while back. The thread title is sort of misleading because it's really MSP-HNL with a tech stop in LAX since the 737 doesn't have the legs to do that route nonstop in both directions. I guess I am just str...

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by MSPNWA
Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta receives approval to do low 747 flyby of MSP
Replies: 7
Views: 2809

Re: Delta receives approval to do low 747 flyby of MSP

ual763 wrote:
2000ft AGL or MSL? If MSL, that'll be fairly low as the airport is at 850ft MSL as neomax pointed out.


Yeah, that's a key distinction. 2,000 AGL isn't all that low. MSL is better, but I'd say a missed approach sequence would be the best.

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by MSPNWA
Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Greensboro / PTIA changing names
Replies: 42
Views: 3982

Re: Greensboro / PTIA changing names

The new name is much too vague and makes it sound much smaller than it really is. Just call it Greenboro-Winston Salem or something that people can identify with. I don't see how "Central North Carolina" is any less confusing. I'd say it's more confusing. I'll miss Piedmont Triad though. D...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

It has to do with what atcsundevil mentioned above. It's fine to have a rational, reasoned discussion on this matter. It's fine to discuss DL's recovery because it's their largest hub. Also recall that the last meltdown was 100% on DL, and Bastian's absence was far more relevant. This was not direc...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

UA still interlines with AA, DL, and AS. DL still interlines with UA and AS. AA still interlines with UA and AS. Nice that you conveniently left out the largest domestic carrier (WN) who doesn't interline with anyone and never has. Apparently we aren't allowed to criticize them. The reality is that...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

. . . which affects this conversation how? Consolidation removed seats from the network, which caused less overall connectivity. But that has nothing to do with DL's hub structure at ATL. How does it not affect this conversation? The lack of possible ways to get from point A to point B is an import...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1311
Views: 81878

Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

Delta bought every single used aircraft Boeing offered them. 19 of the 20 E190s Boeing took in trade from Air Canada were purchased by Delta (the 20th being parted out before Delta could get ahold of it). McAllister seems to have conveniently forgotten this. On the flip side, that sale also destroy...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

Cubsrule wrote:
If that were what happened, we could criticize. But increased connectivity benefits customers too.


Those are not mutually exclusive. Consolidation has brought a great loss of overall connectivity.

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by MSPNWA
Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

I missed where UA flies IAD-MGM and AA flies ORD-SCL. It makes no sense to criticize ATL because it has lots of service to cities where a focus on ATL makes geographical sense. Every carrier does that at every hub. AA doesn’t fly ORD-CLL or PHL-TLH either. That's a red herring. It isn't about wheth...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

There are virtually no destinations outside the southeast and Latin America that have “little to no service outside of through ATL.” And even that misses the point, I think. The choices for many of us 350+ days per year are something like a 60 minute connection at ATL that is very likely to operate...

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by MSPNWA
Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

B4REAL wrote:
What is concerning is that the press release mentioned there isn't definitive to the cause or spot of the outage.


Thought that was strange too. How can you set a earliest if you don't know what happened and the extend of the damage?

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by MSPNWA
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

and who's to say the staff is even working at the moment? Considering they also have two 747s to deal with today, I bet they have staff available. Thanks for the info. Damn, I knew ATL had a lot, but it's more than DTW and MSP put together! And it doesn't tell the whole story since ATL has a higher...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

Probaby because IAD is a BA destination with gates, ground crew, and staff, whereas CLT is not? That would be my guess. Best to land at an airport with staff available. Worry about onward travel later. And since it was to ATL and an end station, they're not getting there until ATL is back online an...

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by MSPNWA
Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

777Mech wrote:
What does an AA agreement do for the passengers in ATL?

Nothing at the moment for them, but for those at outstations and those in ATL when operations begin returning, it would be huge.

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by MSPNWA
Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

AAvgeek744 wrote:
The fourth total power outage in the recent past? News to me.


No, the 4th time the DL network has been paralyzed because of problems at ATL. It's a valid concern when booking DL in ATL's catchment area. If something bad happens at ATL, there's little alternative.

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by MSPNWA
Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42649

Re: Power outage in ATL

https://twitter.com/SouthwestAir/status ... 2623409152


Seems like the wise move.
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I feel for those stuck. Can't imagine how bad it is there now.

KBUF wrote:
WN has cancelled all flights to and from ATL for the rest of the day: https://twitter.com/SouthwestAir/status ... 2623409152


Seems like the wise move.

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by MSPNWA
Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines unveils A321neo "Most West Coast" livery
Replies: 169
Views: 28382

Re: Alaska Airlines unveils A321neo "Most West Coast" livery

The worst promotional livery I've ever seen.

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by MSPNWA
Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 82518

Re: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options

Anderson merely pointed out the truth. If anything, he prevented a worse bubble scenario from happening. No, Anderson made a complete fabrication on the 777 pricing. He tried to equate scrap value with actual working examples. We don't know what went on behind the scenes beforehand, but publicly DL...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 82518

Re: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options

We are near the end of 2017. So in 7 years, on Dec 31, 2024....how many Boeings will be in DL's fleet? The 739ERs and maybe a few 738s left. Is that it? Would 717, 757, 767 be all gone? SCARY to think..... FOR SOME My quick guess would be that the 753s and 764s would be remaining, along with the ne...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL moves last 747 flight
Replies: 29
Views: 5799

Re: DL moves last 747 flight

Umm, can you add 1+1? Because this has nothing to do with the DL farewell tour. The farewell tour will be one for the record books anyway and will probably outdo UAs 747 farewell tour. DL's stop at Paine Field is sure to be a hands down treat for those on-board the DTW-SEA flight. Just in case you ...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 82518

Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Will this finally get people to understand that Delta is not friends with Boeing? Will this be the order that shows people emotions are a major part of ordering aircraft? The evidence is overwhelming.

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by MSPNWA
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/10/2017: DL Drops GRK; UA Adds SHD/LWB, Drops LAX-OKC, SFO-XIY
Replies: 85
Views: 15286

Re: OAG Changes 12/10/2017: DL Drops GRK; UA Adds SHD/LWB, Drops LAX-OKC, SFO-XIY

Looking ahead to June, SEA-SFO is operated 8x/daily, exclusively on mainline. This is a significant capacity increase from as recently as two years ago, when the route was almost entirely E75 and perhaps had one mainline r/t. Also noteworthy: In June, LAX-SFO goes 100% DL mainline equipment (exclus...

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by MSPNWA
Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hundreds of ATL Cancellations- Winter Weather
Replies: 78
Views: 12163

Re: Hundreds of ATL Cancellations- Winter Weather

It's one thing to have a bad snow storm, but it's entirely another to have IT problems and excessive service wait times on Friday, crew scheduling difficulties the moment ATL goes down, and for poor planning that leads to cancellations and delays long after the weather passes. Those are self-inflict...

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by MSPNWA
Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta flies cancel-free over Thanksgiving holiday (includes Delta Connection)
Replies: 61
Views: 11847

Re: Delta flies cancel-free over Thanksgiving holiday (includes Delta Connection)

Well, well, it turns out DL was lying again. It's simply disgusting when companies lie for financial gain. https://thepointsguy.com/2017/12/no-delta-didnt-really-go-cancel-free-over-the-thanksgiving-holiday/ Earlier this week, Delta make the bold claim: “Delta Flies Cancel-Free Over Thanksgiving Hol...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL's 757 cabin update
Replies: 52
Views: 6208

Re: DL's 757 cabin update

but unlike most airlines these days DL actually puts a lot of effort into their interiors, and it shows. Oh, and they don't cut down on seat pitch. And this is a well-know fact across the industry, That's objectively not true, so it had better not be a well-known fact. In general among the three le...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747
Replies: 69
Views: 12330

Re: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747

That almost seems like a bigger slap in the face to me than making employees pay for the employee appreciation flights. Sorry, but if you announce to me that I can buy a confirmed seat at this time on this day, I damn well expect the company to follow through on that. Expression of interest? What k...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 737 MAX 8 Inaugural
Replies: 74
Views: 13207

Re: AA 737 MAX 8 Inaugural

AA quietly launched the 737 MAX operation yesterday November 29th. I was on the inaugural flight AA292 MIA-LGA and the whole experience was just disAAppointing. The aircraft is a clear step backwards in step in terms of passenger comfort, the WiFi did not perform up to expectation, and while I didn...

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by MSPNWA
Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL's 757 cabin update
Replies: 52
Views: 6208

Re: DL's 757 cabin update

Just curious if anyone else believes DL has ruined the 757. Just flew their newly updated 757 ATL-SEA both ways. Haven't flown DL in a while, and with it harder to get on a 757 on AA, I was looking forward to that private first class feeling you get on the 757. Might as well been on a 737. The divi...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 737max Inaugural flight
Replies: 53
Views: 13664

Re: Air Canada 737max Inaugural flight

If you are sitting as far as you can from the seat next to you and the seat is 1” narrower that means you are 1” closer to the seat next to you, if the person next to you sits the same way you are 2” closer to them than you would be on an A320. The good thing for the 737 here is that people general...

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by MSPNWA
Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta flies cancel-free over Thanksgiving holiday (includes Delta Connection)
Replies: 61
Views: 11847

Re: Delta flies cancel-free over Thanksgiving holiday (includes Delta Connection)

So if a cancellation isn't actually a cancellation according to DL's own reporting, how are we to trust that they actually went cancellation-free over Thanksgiving?

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by MSPNWA
Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 737max Inaugural flight
Replies: 53
Views: 13664

Re: Air Canada 737max Inaugural flight

From what has been made public so far, the seats are 1” narrower than the A320 and the seat pitch as well. The IFE will be much better than on the A320. As far as noise goes I do know the 737NG is noticeably louder than the A320, but it is said that the MAX is quieter than the NG. The only experien...

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by MSPNWA
Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread
Replies: 517
Views: 76808

Re: Delta Widebody Thread

777Mech wrote:
So safety is a false dilemma in your mind? Got it


No. I'm pointing out that safety/no safety was not the only choice for DL. Clearly something went wrong in planning. I've never seen a plane pulled for training flights.

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by MSPNWA
Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread
Replies: 517
Views: 76808

Re: Delta Widebody Thread

I get that but DL didn't know that ahead of time? You would think they would, but I guess not. I wonder what they're doing with Premium Select passengers. Not all can be bumped up to J. I would rather the crew have adequate training versus having an inexperienced crew on the type and potentially ha...

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