Re: Update: DOT denies Delta’s request to move Haneda route authorities

Hawaiian CEO says the carrier intends to fully utilize its 3 daily Haneda authorities, though its true Kona service won't be daily this winter but the carrier intends to "ramp it up as demand recovers.” https://airlineweekly.skift.com/2023/09/hawaiian-airlines-defends-tokyo-haneda-flight-right...

Re: Hawaii Aviation - 2023

cathay747 wrote:

azjubilee wrote:

OAHU747 wrote:

Why was SFO chosen as the inaugural HA 789 flight instead of LAX?

Crew training.

You know this for a fact? Your source?

Re: Hawaii Aviation - 2023

OAHU747 wrote:

Why was SFO chosen as the inaugural HA 789 flight instead of LAX?

Re: Update: DOT denies Delta’s request to move Haneda route authorities

Where are you seeing that reduced schedule? A search on their website shows the full HND schedule back as it was prior to Covid. This includes the 3/wk KOA-HND and late night HNL-HND 4/wk. The winter schedule starts October 29th. HA's website Weird. When I searched yesterday, the schedule was there...

Re: Update: DOT denies Delta’s request to move Haneda route authorities

Looks like HA will be using their late night slot (3rd daily slot that no other carrier wanted) w/ just 1 weekly KOA-HND flight from Nov-Feb. The 4 times/week HNL-HND late night flight seems to be dropped til March. I wonder if any other carrier will object. Maybe UA could use it for GUM. Iʻm assum...

Re: Southwest Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

Designed by a Hawaiian design firm in Oahu with design input from the local communities. Each one of the design elements have a specific meaning to the Hawaiian People. For real? I find it incredibly hard to believe a local company with any sort of awareness would generate something so disappointing.

Re: Hawaiian to fly A330s for Amazon

Or could this start the bidding process lol. This makes me think WN isn’t bidding on them actually. This move seems like desperation to keep revenue coming in sort of like Sun Country is doing. I think WN will wait and see what the next 2 years looks like in the economy before making any potential ...

Re: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2022

Random question for Aussie - with Japan slowly building up, and nervous nature of the Japanese consumer with regards to travel, is there any chance we could see a bit of HA expansion else where? I've always been surprised that HA flew into BNE over MEL. Now that AU government is throwing money arou...

Re: Hawaiian Aviation Thread - 2022

Hawaiian is ending service to Orlando after Sept 8. https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/hawaiian-airlines-suspending-flights-between-orlando-and-honolulu With the 787 delays and the rebuilding of the Japan network, something had to give. The route did well seasonally, but there aren't enough airplane...

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

Where are hawaiians other maintenance bases? I tried to google it but couldnt see. I assume HNL so what are the other two? The article said they have 4 now This is the 4th NA base for 321, which doesn’t include Hawaii. The others are PDX, SMF and OAK. Because I can’t edit… I might be wrong about SM...

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:

Where are hawaiians other maintenance bases? I tried to google it but couldnt see. I assume HNL so what are the other two? The article said they have 4 now

Re: Hawaiian Airlines Repaint Update?

Only one 717 remains unpainted with seven 330's to go. All 321's were delivered in the new livery. Cabins on the 717 and 330 were refreshed in a different project independent of the livery update.

Re: HAL #9939 KAEX - KLAX 11/1/2021

HAL has been doing frequent DOD charters over the course of the Covid schedule downturn. This flight is no different.

Re: Rise of "Premium Leisure"? Hawaiian Airlines Gambles on Business Class Cabin

There really isn't anything new from this article, other than the layout of the HAL 789. Hawaiian over the last many years always marketed itself as a premium leisure boutique airline. OAL's have always treated Hawaii as a domestic spoke, while HAL's business model focusses on Hawaii and offers a fe...

Re: Hawaiian 460 diversion into MDY (Sand Island, Midway Atoll)

This might clarify the maintenance relationship between DL and HA a bit: https://news.delta.com/techops-expands-maintenance-hawaiian-airlines Delta TechOps provides Hawaiian with their Complete Fleet services. Here is a PDF description of those services: https://www.deltatechops.com/PDF/aircraft-mr...

Re: Hawaiian 460 diversion into MDY (Sand Island, Midway Atoll)

The engine was not shut down. Delta was not apart of the rescue team. There was no engine change. HAL mechanics fixed the problem. The plane returned to HNL safely. I know they don't fit in at the speculation party, but those are the facts. You'd be wrong. I see the notes and what was sent where. T...

Re: Hawaiian 460 diversion into MDY (Sand Island, Midway Atoll)

The engine was not shut down.
Delta was not apart of the rescue team.
There was no engine change.
HAL mechanics fixed the problem.
The plane returned to HNL safely.

I know they don't fit in at the speculation party, but those are the facts.

Re: Southwest Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

The Hardstand gates we're always going to be temporary until the HA moved into it's new Home. Yes the Diamond head concourse is next to get a complete refurbishment. Starting in 2022. Enjoy or Don't Flyguy Do you know how many gates they will be taking over from Hawaiian when they move over to ther...

Re: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL

Wneast wrote:

So when is it supposed to be done ?

Re: Hawaiian Flight 86 (HNL-MCO) Inaugural Flight enroute

There were far more revenue passengers than non-revs. Put it that way.

HAL is leaving the plane for 24 hours in BOS and JFK as well.

Re: Hawaiian Flight 86 (HNL-MCO) Inaugural Flight enroute

Flight was pretty full, yes there are meals and a 3rd frequency has already been added to the schedule starting in June.

Re: Status of LAX TBIT Midfield Concourse

Hat tip to you, sir. I hadn't followed this closely beyond the initial rash of information when first publicized. So yes, issue has been resolved - no case pending. The domestic baggage carousel in question is close to completion in Section A of the arrivals area at TBIT. Somehow, didn't relate tha...

Re: Status of LAX TBIT Midfield Concourse

The outcome of the LAWA-HA litigation will be the precursor to further relocations & changes to what is currently codified by lease agreement. Has this yet to be resolved? The MSC move for the slated carriers is impending isn't it? Did MSC ever have any design changes to accommodate domestic ar...

Re: Airbus A220 sales campaign thread 2021

I see more A321NEO inter-island, but not as a replacement. As traffic recovers, I see multiple options to replace the 717. In all scenarios a smaller plane helps. Lightsaber Yeah, that's why I suggested 319/320neo. By the time "mid decade" rolls around, HAL will be in the middle of taking...

Re: Airbus A220 sales campaign thread 2021

I wouldn't have noted if you had not mentioned. Mid decade had always been sort of a place holder without real commitment until it seems very recently. Reading the transcript says it all, but it was how he said it too, that gave really interesting context. My thought is that there won't be a perfec...

Re: Airbus A220 sales campaign thread 2021

HA is always discussed, but they are such a tough case due to utilization, it would take trials to prove the airframe and in particular engine that I am not aware of being performed as of yet. I also don't see HA ordering soon. If they need more, they'll but used DL 717s or Volotea 717s, but eventu...

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

airportugal310 wrote:

This thread and the constant predictions within it have a strong habit of aging very poorly. The comical nature of it all is what keeps me coming back for more

Re: HA announces OGG-LGB, ONT-HNL, AUS-HNL, MCO-HNL

If anything, airliners.net is at least predictable. Same comments, from the same experts.

Re: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries

slcdeltarumd11 wrote:

Sep 22 is probably closer than hawaiian wanted but amazing Boeing could defer it that long given all the max undelivered planes.

Re: Hawaiian Air delays 787 deliveries

Interestingly, the first 2 will actually be built and go into storage.

Re: Hawaii reopening delayed until Sep. 1

Tough to hear with prime time tourist season coming up. Summer is peak travel for Hawaii. With August now eliminated from opportunity, the industry will stumble into September at the beginning of one of the travel troughs. Thanksgiving through New Years is the next hope for anything close to normal.

Re: Long Beach (LGB) increasing number of air carrier slots

Hawaiian won't have JetBlue so might be time for them to exit also. HAL didn't serve LGB because of B6, so why would they exit as well? They used them for ground handling and some very limited connecting opportunities. LGB was by far more O&D driven. The connecting partnership is much stronger ...

Re: JetBlue makes LAX West Coast focus city

AA currently has preferential use of 4 gates in T-5 (5th one once terminal gate reconfiguration is finished) as part of proprietary investments in its master lease that runs till 2039. AA may also access up to 5 other gates on common use basis, plus a common use bus gate in T-5. They have exclusive...

Re: AA/NK/F9/HA/OO Reach CARES Act Loan Agreements with Govt

I think it's important to note, that this development doesn't necessarily mean the airline is actively drawing on the funds available. In the case of HAL, they've had great access to capital on the open market and this gives them another option, should they need it.

Re: Hawaiian Airlines ALL 32N on HNL-OGG

These flights are not for currency. You say that with remarkable assuredness, as if you have inside info. Care to elaborate? I already did but I'll expand. The flights are operated to ensure the social distancing policies can be complied with. 321/330 pilots are going to the simulator to manage the...

Re: Hawaiian Airlines ALL 32N on HNL-OGG

These flights are not for currency.

Re: Hawaiian Airlines ALL 32N on HNL-OGG

It for social distancing and it started June 1st. OGG loads on the 717 were approaching levels that couldn't support the new social distancing policies. I doubt it will be a long term thing.

Re: Will airlines end Hawaii service later this week?

205 is in PAE for its 2 year check.
230's delivery is on hold due to Covid, but will be delivered.
No plans to retire early any part of the fleet.
787 deliveries are still expected, HAL continues to plan for them. No, BNE and SYD aren't the first routes.

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

I see the Mauka Extension at the Interisland terminal is coming up, framing seems to be in place and construction is moving along. Has there been any change in the news that the whole facility is going to be used by Hawaiian? And is Hawaiian still going to be the only entity using the "A"...

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

[list=][/list] HA bought WPs certificate to keep others out of the interisland business. Perhaps, but that's a bit of a stretch. There may have been and underlying competitive reasons, but there were clear advantages for buying the certificate and assets for HAL's use. Bringing the Ohana operation i...

Re: Hawaii Airports and Aviation Thread - 2020

News came down today that Hawaiian Airlines is now using a A-320NEO on one flight a day between Honolulu and Kahului. From.Routes Online: Hawaiian Airlines earlier this month launched Airbus A321neo aircraft on Inter-Island market, operating on Kahului – Honolulu route. Since 07JAN20, the A321neo o...

Re: Hawaiian 787 Delivery Schedule

Because the A330 is currently completely staffed? Do you not see that bringing in more widebodies opens up more upgrades? From what I have gathered from friends of friends, The older A330's are going away with the 787's replacing them almost 1 to 1 rather than for widebody growth. I don't know how ...

Re: HA A321NEO Landing at SEA Today (12/24)

I don’t believe that the plane landed at SEA. They just did two approaches and go arounds and then off to HNL. This is after the original delivery flight and induction maintenance done in PAE. There is a large MRO at PAE Thank you to both for the replies. Why two approaches? Is there a requirement ...

Re: Hawaiian 9981 BFM-SEA circling SeaTac

NickS wrote:

If it diverted to PAE, ill head over tomorrow morning and see if I can see anything

Re: Hawaiian 9981 BFM-SEA circling SeaTac

Not sure why it took the path it did, but it’s intended destination was always PAE, after doing some work in SEA airspace.

Re: A321 Range HNL-DEN

Just curious, could HA add DEN-HNL with the A321 (does it have the range) with DEN being hot and high? Would be a beautiful addition to DIA! Considering the 321neo on LAS-OGG will on on occasion experience weight penalties, DEN-HNL will be even more restrictive. Not to mention, DEN-HNL doesn't real...

Re: CRJ GPS Issues

Hawaiian quickly recovered and operated as normal on Sunday.

Re: CRJ200/700 GPS Transponder Issue?

Hawaiian started having issues on the 717 fleet at 00z today.

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

After reading the DOT document, my interpretation is that UAs LAX-HND was the last slot chosen, and that the DOT respected each carriers ranking preferences. Thus, had UA ranked IAH ahead of LAX, it is very likely that IAH-HND would have been chosen instead. Also, AA ranking LAS below DFW#2 also ki...

Re: ANA A380 - will there be route proving flights?

The first of three A380s arrived in Honolulu for the first time today on a test flight. Though not the first visit by an A380 to Honolulu, it was still a great sight to behold. HNL has one A380 gate (with the upper jetway) and it will soon see use as regularly scheduled flights start next month. Ne...