Re: Even the Dreamlifters get a Christmas break

It would be fascinating to the know the rational behind having this subfleet's operation being contracted out instead of being handled in-house. Man commerce is complicated.

Re: Even the Dreamlifters get a Christmas break

You'll see the 944 Waterbomber at Marana for maintenance as well. (Man, I can't believe how much that area has grown up in the 14 years I've been in Sonora and Arizona.)

Maybe I'll take a drive up there and have a look at them .

Re: Should Boeing extend 737 NG production to cover over the MAX?

Rossiya747 wrote:

ODwyerPW wrote:
stated quite clearly, even in broken English.

That was a joke, to prove how simple the logic was. I am a native speaker of English.

Re: Should Boeing extend 737 NG production to cover over the MAX?

Rossiya747 wrote:

Simple logic:
You buy 2019 Ford Explorer
Ford give you 2018 Ford Explorer
You not get what you buy

Airline buy 737 MAX
Boeing give you 737NG
You not get what you buy

If an airline bought the 737 MAX, they don't want the 737NG.

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

morrisond wrote:

In Grounding news - United is now saying they won't fly the MAX until June now.

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

I think the NSA / FSA / 737 replacement is growing from an option into a neccesity rapidly. For the FSA a nimble, quiet, cheap 50t, 180-230 seater with up to 4700NM range, sold in the thousands is the benchmark. I think it would be very complicted to shrink an NMA into those specs. Boeing is in no ...

Re: Sun Country Enters Canada With MSP-YVR

Good for Sun Country. Nice to see them expanding.

Re: Air France orders additional A350s

Revelation wrote:

scbriml wrote:

Apparently they like it and have joined the growing band of airlines that have increased their A350 numbers.

Just like United!

Re: After Neo/Max - The Next Clean Sheet Need

NMA is likely dead - I doubt a successful business case can be presented to the BoD. I expect the next launches will be the replacements for the 737 (NSA - New Small Airplane) and the A320 (NSR - New Short Range). I expect Boeing to move first, but I also expect them not to do so until the next ste...

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

Anybody has an order count for the XLR? Did it already surpass 500 orders? Seriously? The A321XLR has that many orders? Wow. I had my doubts when I kept hearing about pax counts of 150 fro TATL... I thought, that's too long and too thin... But I guess some improvements to the original spec and now ...

Re: Status of New Cape Air Tecnam P2012 ?

This is a pretty exciting introduction. It's been a long time since an Airline was absolutely directly involved in the creation and introduction of an Airplane (like Hughes and the Constellation). Bold move by Cape Air.

Re: Pictures surfacing of 777X Sept Test Failure

Steps up to Bully Pulpit Clears Throat. Declares: Grandfathering needs to end, the certification of the 777X is a great place to start. Drops Mic. Ummmmm Dude... Thank you for the grandstanding.... you do realize they were conducting a test that would simulate 150% of expected max load (which result...

Re: A350-1000 certified to 480 seats

777X is limited to 475pax. Interesting, what is it about the A350J that allowed 5 pax more?

Re: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing

sometimes a company can exists with the goal of doing stuff for the common good. it's folks accomplishing collectively what they can't individually. no one is getting rich. you approach some of your activities as a zero-sum game. not quite charity, not quite philanthropy, just a focus on your produ...

Re: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing

sometimes a company can exists with the goal of doing stuff for the common good. it's folks accomplishing collectively what they can't individually. no one is getting rich. you approach some of your activities as a zero-sum game. not quite charity, not quite philanthropy, just a focus on your produc...

Re: Scope-compliant Boeing-Embraer E-170E2: can it be done and still generate profit to airlines?

Original Embraer 175 barely fits within scope MTOW. You'd have to build a new Embraer 170-E2, optimized at 76 single class pax with 31" pitch if you wanted to leverage all of the E2 tech and still meet scope. But if you wanted dual class with 76pax, you need the 175-E2, which will never meet s...

Re: Scope-compliant Boeing-Embraer E-170E2: can it be done and still generate profit to airlines?

Original Embraer 175 barely fits within scope MTOW. You'd have to build a new Embraer 170-E2, optimized at 76 single class pax with 31" pitch if you wanted to leverage all of the E2 tech and still meet scope. But if you wanted dual class with 76pax, you need the 175-E2, which will never meet sc...

Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

flyingphil wrote:

Also makes me wonder why all the 737MAX’s aren't fitted with the new extendable main landing gear?

flyingphil wrote:

new extendable main landing gear.

Re: Emirates Chairman slams other airlines and Airbus for mishandling and retiring A380

Wasn't the range very much some specific EK requirement? Like Dubai-California nonstop? Brochure range of 77W: 7370nm Brochure range of 77X: 7525nm 2% different, doubt the added range was something that upset other airlines. Thank you for that Data point. Plane flies 2% further, holds about 7% more...

Re: Converting 50 seat RJs to RJs with first class?

In the case of the ERJ-135.. when they did the 16pax 1+1 shuttle configuration that was going to be the backbone of Indigo's Air Taxi service out of Teteboro , Embraer had to redo the entire floor to make it flat and change up the bins. You'd have to do something similar with an ERJ-145. (It would b...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

In one month, we will have had 10 years since the first 787 flew it's maiden flight ( a record 29 months after the 'roll-out'). We've also had 8 years of in-flight service. My sense is that in a few short years, the 787 will be revisited. Perhaps the 9 and 10 will get the larger wing that was origin...

Re: Emirates Chairman slams other airlines and Airbus for mishandling and retiring A380

I don't know.. Boeing gave Sr Tim Clark exactly what he wanted with the 777-9 at the risk of alienating other customers... .and he just returned the favor by cancelling 30 of them the other day.... oh, and failing to firm up the previous 40 787-10 deal... He's just not enjoyable to listen to anymore...

Re: Key 747 Factories Shut Down

Where will Avatar Airlines get their 747-8s.

Re: Avatar Airlines (formerly Family Airlines) start up tries again..

of all the impediments to my own success.... clearly my possession of conscience is foremost. if I would just master the skill of putting of my own greed, ego and wants ahead of everyone and everything else. i could augment his air service by launching a feeder airline with a fleet of Embraer ERJ-13...

Re: A320 family overtakes 737 family in total orders

goodness folks. can't we just recognize the achievement without making it an A vs B thing? Today is a moment to simply celebrate that Airbus got the A320 family right! It's a fine aircraft with production benefiting 3 continents / 4 countries. The order milestone is a testament to doing allot of thi...

Re: Moxy - News and Discussion Thread

It will be interesting to see if Moxy serves the West Coast / SouthWest a bit more than say JetBlue. Have to admit that I'm very curious about this new Airline.

Re: JetSuiteX moving to DFW and growing to 100 RJs

One of those articles mentions they are taking 145s now as well? How many of their existing 14 aircraft are 145s? What does that seatmap look like with 30 seats? Wow. You could almost do 1+1 seating at 15 rows, or 2+1 with incredible pitch.

Re: Celera 500-L

some very unrealistic expectations in the article cited... 30-42mpg out of it's 12cylinder engine... Don't know to many Lamborghinis or Ferraris that get that kind of mileage.

Re: This just in: First AC A220 out of paint

it's all white with black engines a black tail and a basic nearly symmetrical red maple leaf. not much to look at.

Re: This just in: First AC A220 out of paint

it's all white with black engines a black tail and a basic nearly symmetrical red maple leaf. not much to look at.

Re: Air Arabia to purchase 100 A320neo-series

Wow. This plane just keeps adding to it's backlog. Incredible. Airbus has got to be almost giddy...

Re: Opinion: Airbus and how to move away from the A320 family

This is a tough conversation. Although the A320 basic frame is 30 years old, it was built in a forward thinking fashion that got so many things right; it will be relevant for a long time.

Re: Delta opens Concourse G at LGA

Aaand it only took 6 posts for people to become outraged at a new airport terminal opening on a site dedicated to aviation. No, outraged at a factually incorrect statement about LaGuardia. "the port authority dude is calling the LGA rebuild, the new LGA airport, 'the first new airport built in...

Re: Delta opens Concourse G at LGA

I watched the Video... the port authority dude is calling the LGA rebuild, the new LGA airport, 'the first new airport built in the USA in 25 years'......

Guess he forgot about Williston that just opened up two weeks ago?

That said, it's nice to see LGA progressing.

Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

And when Boeing confirms it will develop a clean sheet MAX replacement, all Airbus needs to do is to stretch the A220 to develop a 160-seat A220-500. The A220 will then effectively becomes the A318/A319/A320 "clean-sheet" replacement, while the A321NEO stays on with another stretch to mak...

Re: Southwest CEO given green light by Board to look at other aircraft

I don't think the WN business model is going to be sustainable with that size of plane in the future. I think the WN fleet of the future starts with the 737-800 and MAX 8 and goes up to the MAX 10 (or A321neo?). So you think every Route that is serviced by a plane that holds 137-143pax is suddenly ...

Re: Southwest CEO given green light by Board to look at other aircraft

at 32" pitch, A220-300 seats about 142 (Or 28 rows of 3 seats on one side, 29 rows of 2 seats on the other side). compare that to current 73g at 31" pitch seats 143. Apples to Apples. Max7 will seat 150.... 8 seats more than an A220-300. If that is super important to WN, could Airbus do a ...

Re: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50

Everyone assumes a route can jump from 140pax to 165pax just because you bought a bigger plane and then absorb the incremental costs? Spirit knows what they are doing. If you save $50million over 5 years flying 5 A319NEOs instead of 5 A320NEOs on routes that don't support the additional capacity... ...

Re: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50

Beechtobus wrote:

tphuang wrote:

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you get A220-300, lower cost to operate and more seats.

Is it really lower cost though? 2 fleet types, 2 seniority lists, 2 different pools of pilots, 2 maintenance spares stockpiles, 2 different training and recurrency programs, etc....

Re: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50

The argument isn’t that you don’t buy airbuses, the argument is there are close to zero missions the a319neo makes sense vs the a320neo, and investing marginally more for the a320neo and flying around empty seats if need be for the potential additional revenue capability is worth it. What if you ha...

Re: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50

Cheap acquisition cost: marginally Cheaper landing fees : probably not Cheaper fuel burn : almost negligible, much higher per seat Cheaper labor costs: one extra FA? The argument isn’t that you don’t buy airbuses, the argument is there are close to zero missions the a319neo makes sense vs the a320n...

Re: Updated: NK Announces Upcoming Order of 100 Airbus A320neo Family Aircraft plus Purchase Options for a further 50

If Spirit needs 120-150 3 crew aircraft for part of their network. Should they buy the bigger, more expensive A320s or an entirely new type, the A220? Exactly... you go for the A319NEO! They know their network structure.. In complete agreement with you on this! A319NEO will have cheaper acquisition...

Re: Spirit Airlines to announce major Airbus order

Interesting in respect of the A319NEO part. I wonder if there is life in the frame yet given the China demand as well. In answer to ODwyerPW the A320 and A321 have so far been produced in Alabama. Could this be a land grab for slots on the production line in case of tariffs? Thanks Jack! Airbus wou...

Re: Spirit Airlines to announce major Airbus order

Spirit is doing nice stuff lately... revamp of the interiors, new headquarters being constructed and now this large NEO order (yeah I know it's an MOU, but we are all pretty sure it will be firmed!). Congradulations to Airbus and Spirit. And yes, I too hope they will be built in Alabama, though I th...

Re: U.S. Restricts Leasing of Commercial Aircraft to Cuba

You nailed it, but isn’t it fun to listen to the apologists try to rationalize this policy? If we had a consistent foreign policy some of our best buddies would be persona non grata. Saudi Arabia, China, and so on.... actually, it's not fun at all listening to folks squandering time, effort, good w...

Re: U.S. Restricts Leasing of Commercial Aircraft to Cuba

Don't we have better things to worry about than the Cuba embargo? As Elsa would say, LET IT GO. apparently not??! the public has incredibly short attention spans, but apparently the a memory of an elephant when it comes to Cuba (57 years running... good grief). Didn't China do this wee little thing...

Re: U.S. Restricts Leasing of Commercial Aircraft to Cuba

What is Cuba's crime anyway? They are communists? Aren't the Chinese communists? Don't we conduct just a wee bit of business with China.. I just don't get the fixation with continued punishment of Cuba.. It's weird?

Re: Pilatus unveils PC-12 NGX

the site, the video, the pdf document... none of them mention pax capacity.... i guess intimate knowledge of the PC12 is needed to understand what the PC-12NGX is.....

Re: Blue Air first B737 MAX is wearing airline's new livery

a small detail, but the almost round inlets on the MAX are so much nicer than those of the NG and Classic (please spare us any comments about engine/nacelle/inlets contributing to unwanted lift at remote corners of the flight envelope please). it's an interesting livery with the off-white shapes on ...

Re: WN Downgraded based on aquisition speculation

these threads crack me up!