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by compensateme
Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country to Change Strategy
Replies: 113
Views: 11883

Re: Sun Country to Change Strategy

The percentage of the flying public that has an option to fly SY is minuscule, even for those at MSP. They're simply not an option except for a select few routes. Their "value" is extremely limited and is dwarfed by the value the public sees in G4. I'd hardly consider 900K enplanements at...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sun Country to Change Strategy
Replies: 113
Views: 11883

Re: Sun Country to Change Strategy

Someone with good skills should create the route map of SY/WN. Eliminate DFW for DAL. Eliminate any airports SY flies to which WN does not (maybe move it to something close - i.e. JFK to LGA). It would look nice. Why on Earth would WN have any interest in acquiring a leisure & charter-orientate...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

I'm surprised that none of the car rental or park-and-fly companies have relocated to the south entrance on Eureka Rd. There's plenty of vacant land and it's closer to the Delta terminal, which is much busier than the North Terminal. The current rental car facilities and offsite parking lots are lo...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Drops 77W on MIA-LAX
Replies: 122
Views: 15089

Re: AA Drops 77W on MIA-LAX

I don't see how its been shattered. The 777 has been pulled from the route before and brought back again. No one thinks AA puts the 777 only because its MIA-LAX, but it made a lot of sense with routing of flights. A 777 has been on and off the route since 2003 at the least, that is when I remember ...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA commits CRJ's to HVN
Replies: 40
Views: 7392

Re: AA commits CRJ's to HVN

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
Used to be DC-9s, EAL in about 1971


And I bet the CRJ will carry more passengers, on average, than those DC-9 did in 1971.

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

With the lack of transit options and how prevalent rental car needs are it seems like something they should pursue however the logistics are challenging and expensive at best. It looks like there are projects out there to improve existing facilities but much of that burden falls on to the various v...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

We'll see what happens with it, if it sticks, it'll be the first E7W route for DL to DTW, I see the aircraft flows through DFW from LAX, so it appears to take over a Compass segment, but like you said, we'll see. The 321 is a different story, I bet that they won't be on SAN and PHX, but TPA and FLL...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Another bright note, DL schedules SAN and PHX 321 service next summer, so that'll be 5 321 rotations, regardless if they are removed they'll be placed on ATL, so you'll start seeing more 321s around DTW. DL also is doing the E7W from DFW next summer, so it'll be a change in scenery. Historically, a...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Such a real joke why is Delta so afraid of adding capacity in the Detroit market. Once again by reducing frequency they make Detroit a less attractive market to make connections as there will be fewer flight options. I didn't say they cut capacity, just frequency; that's fairly natural when you cut...

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by compensateme
Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

I know this is way far out but next July DL plans 757 service to SNA. I'm pretty confident this is the first time in history that DL's initial summer schedule for the upcoming year was new rather than simply rolled over. Lots of frequency reductions, a derivative of a 50% reduction in YOY 50-seat m...

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by compensateme
Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL outlines A350 routes
Replies: 183
Views: 44235

Re: DL outlines A350 routes

while I agree with you that the "why is the A350 not going to fly LAX-SYD" threads are way too old..... where do you get your information that LAX-SYD is marginal for DL (you say we know it )? In fact, according to DOT data, AA and DL carry NEARLY IDENTICAL amounts of revenue on LAX-SYD e...

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by compensateme
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL outlines A350 routes
Replies: 183
Views: 44235

Re: DL outlines A350 routes

Why is it that every single thread about DL's 350 suddenly turn into a discussion about LAX-SYD? From reading a.net, you'd think it was DL's most prosperous route, when in reality we know it's a marginal performer for DL at best (search for the threads when the DOT reject AA-QF if you need a refresh...

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by compensateme
Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Pulling some quick numbers: This summer, the North Terminal had 128 peak-day departures, of which 78 were on mainline jets. Early fall, that number climbs to 129, with 78 on mainline jets. This equates to about 4.75 departures per gate, which demonstrates how poorly utilized -- as a whole -- the Nor...

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by compensateme
Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

I am thinking perhaps the poster-who-should-not-be-named drags down the economy of wherever he/she/it is living... that may be the problem in Detroit now... ;) I'm thinking that you must really enjoy trolling/interacting with him, as you're really the only one doing so, and it's distracting from th...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

UA needs to be on that end because they do some of the handling for LH. UA also operated the 757 to DTW and was the only North Terminal airline to do so. They also currently have several daily flights on 739's, so they do need big spaces too (remember that a split-scimitared 739 takes up almost as ...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Its somewhat of a compromise I suppose since UA & AA operate a lot of regional jets into DTW as well. I do find it hilarious that people will cram in the gate area for their respective flight, yet an adjacent gate across or down the hall will be vacant. You can easily go sit there or find a qui...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

What is being placed below the center station across the fountain at the A Concourse, I walked past it yesterday, is it some kind of new interactive display? Also, DL wants to destroy the end of the C Concourse, don' you think that'd be a better place for NK? If you think about it, they have enough...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

DTW-HKG on DL (77L). I feel strongly about this returning because a friend of mine recently sent me an article about a company called Foxconn that's looking into making a sizable operation in Romulus. I think this could add a nice business link that could potentially open DTW-HKG back up. Foxconn i...

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by compensateme
Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to add BDL-BNA
Replies: 28
Views: 3051

Re: Rumor: DL to add BDL-BNA

I don't have a press release but it was definately a 767-300ER and it continued onto Paris, possibly with a plane change. It may have only lasted one summer but this is when Delta flew 767's into BDL multiple times per day. I don't recall Delta service to JFK other than the 767. TWA flew props BDL-...

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by compensateme
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL
Replies: 58
Views: 10483

Re: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL

The ultra low fare environment was in LAX-MSP before AA chose to show up. They simply decided to jump into a market in which DL doesn't chase every last ULCC passenger but the economics do work of adding larger and larger aircraft and selling a certain amount of seats at economy basic/ULCC competit...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Drops 77W on MIA-LAX
Replies: 122
Views: 15089

Re: AA Drops 77W on MIA-LAX

It is a premium route, and that's a fact. AA caters it appropriately (sundaes aren't the difference, by the way, you get those on a flight from Charlotte to Phoenix, too) and has international lounge access rules. End of story. That's how AA treats it and continues to treat it. There's barely any c...

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by compensateme
Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL
Replies: 58
Views: 10483

Re: OAG Changes 8/6/2017: UA Brings Back ORD-PNS; AA Exits MSP-LAX, Expands SLC-PHL

AA's LAX expansion from last summer isn't going so well. SEA, MCI, and OMA are pared back, and MSP is now completely gone. Disappointing to see AA leave the LAX-MSP route. Would have thought they would stick it out or at least switch to E75s before cutting it completely. Leaves a good-sized hole in...

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by compensateme
Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts
Replies: 28
Views: 3628

Re: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts

There's really nothing about the plan which is substantially worse than building an entirely new terminal or concourses, apart from the walk from the terminal to Gate 23 being a bit long. Leaving the unremodeled southwest arm in place allows them to keep the existing international arrivals facility...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

DL's intentions are for MUC to go year round eventually, this year seems to be performing better than last year, and they're bringing the flight back next year which is a good indication that they're gaining in the market, fares from ORD/YYZ-MUC average lower than DTW so that'll always present a pr...

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta in North Carolina (CLT & RDU)
Replies: 15
Views: 1899

Re: Delta in North Carolina (CLT & RDU)

If you're traveling next spring and want to be certain to travel on a 717, MD-88 and MD-90, it's best to purchase your ticket within 30 days as DL's fairly aggressive in making schedule changes.

FWIW, while 717 and MD-88 are common on DTW/MSP/ATL - CLT/RDU, MD-90s are fairly rare.

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by compensateme
Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts
Replies: 28
Views: 3628

Re: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts

The top 2 destinations from MEM that no longer have any nonstop service from MEM are SFO and BOS (according to the DOT Domestic Airline Consumer Airfare Report), and Southwest could possibly add nonstop service to OAK and BOS to fill in the void left by the discontinuation of MEM-SFO and MEM-BOS no...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scoot applies for US service
Replies: 60
Views: 15985

Re: Scoot applies for US service

Based on this forums feedback, PHX and DTW are the obvious choices for Scoot. Forget economics and reality, but a couple of vocal DTW and PHX supporters will give you 100 fake news articles showing their point! Man, I feel really sorry for you -- one person shouldn't get to you like that!!! Take a ...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts
Replies: 28
Views: 3628

Re: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts

It should be pointed out that this basically a rebuild of B, not a remodel. About the only thing that will resemble the current B is the rotunda. Only two thirds of B is getting the rebuild. MEM stated earlier that the southwest spoke will not be done at this time to reduce the costs, MEM stated wh...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts
Replies: 28
Views: 3628

Re: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts

Will there be enough room for Southwest to add 25 additional daily nonstops from MEM with the Memphis Airport modernization? I do not see Southwest adding that many nonstops from MEM in the near future, but MEM should leave room for Southwest to add 25 additional daily nonstops in case the demand i...

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by compensateme
Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts
Replies: 28
Views: 3628

Re: MEM gives updated B Concourse update with layouts

The renditions look great! But MEM would've better off building a new terminal and demolishing the incumbent ones. In the long run, it'd probably be cheaper -- MEM's spending a big chuck of change to remodel portions of its incumbent terminal while deferring expenses / mothballing portions of the te...

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by compensateme
Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

I'd like to point something out, how come the jetways smell bad at DTW? I also noticed the cosmetics of them are bad compared to other airports, carpet is tearing, metal is sticking out of the sides of the walls, rust is the new paint job, I mean honestly if it were me the jetbridges need work. I'v...

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by compensateme
Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

DL's new SNA route isn't filling up for some reason, I don't think there was an introductory fare which could be a reason why the plane isn't filling, it's also starting a week after families in the area resume work and school for the winter. The trend seems to be 90 available seats left, but I gue...

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by compensateme
Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?
Replies: 22
Views: 3611

Re: AA Terminal ORD: Timeless?

Now, for something stuck in the 1990's, to me, that's Terminal 1. It's not bad, it's not horrible, they don't need to tear the place down and start all over, but it's time for a little overview by the powers that be. I wouldn't mind seeing some new flooring and perhaps some new panels to clean up t...

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by compensateme
Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Right so why wouldn't DL operated it twice daily in the summer DL has very clearly struggled with twice-daily DTW/LHR service. Since the merger, they've tried several times to operate it twice-daily -- including with their partner VS -- but with limited success; published load factors support this ...

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by compensateme
Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory
Replies: 236
Views: 67357

Re: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory

I heard DTW-MCO is just one of the route proving flights planned for August. DTW will have the bulk of the flights.. . Honestly, unless it's a one-off flight, I'd be surprised; we're already halfway through July, so it's very unlikely DL's schedules via mid-August will change. The second half of Au...

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by compensateme
Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Sadly, DL's eliminated the second daily flight to PDX, sans a short period from November into December. Previously they pushed back the start date, now the flight goes away completely right before the Holidays. Nice to see the increases in mainline, I am looking forward to being on the 717 instead o...

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by compensateme
Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Some quick thoughts on DL's preliminary early fall schedule (which will change, of course): - DL continues its trend of offering more capacity at DTW during the fall months than it did so during peak summer months; DL clearly utilizes DTW to chase high-yielding business traffic. - 201 peak-day mainl...

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by compensateme
Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar cancels 4 A350s due to supplier issues
Replies: 190
Views: 25948

Re: Qatar to cancel 4 A350s due to supplier issues

rotating14 wrote:
DL is not taking all of their A350s on order. Why would they try to commit to 4 ex QR frames that may not have the same number of seats and same class sections as DL has in their A350s?


Incorrect; DL has slowed the pace of their A359 deliveries, but has yet to cancel any orders.

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by compensateme
Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL slowing down their SEA expansion?
Replies: 72
Views: 13357

Re: Is DL slowing down their SEA expansion?

It may not be hugely profitable or near the system average, but I suspect it did make a profit. Look at AS's growth during that same period, it was enormous, but AS kept turning huge profits. I doubt DL was charging substantially below AS such that it would be unprofitable. I think the SEA market j...

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by compensateme
Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is DL slowing down their SEA expansion?
Replies: 72
Views: 13357

Re: Is DL slowing down their SEA expansion?

Delta's plan at SEA is right on track. Nothing has changed. And the hub is profitable. I know those are shocks to the system for AS homers. I'm no "AS homer," but I'd be skeptical of the claim that SEA reached profitability that quickly, given the size & scope of expansion over the pa...

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by compensateme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

Actually, the lounge (in the central area) at DTW was my favorite lounge in the Delta system. Too many of their "upgrades" at other airports went to making sleek, bland, and plastic-y spaces.. more like glorified Student Union Buildings than clubs. The DTW lounge actually felt "clubb...

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by compensateme
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta retires first MD 90
Replies: 77
Views: 21000

Re: Delta retires first MD 90

The narrow body RFP is already out there. DL is expecting the results sometime this fall. I would think they want to make a decision in time for the 4th quarter BOD meeting. It could well be, but there has never been any confirmation, just speculation. I'll remain skeptical until it's confirmed -- ...

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by compensateme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta retires first MD 90
Replies: 77
Views: 21000

Re: Delta retires first MD 90

Everyone keeps thinking about the operating cost of the McDonnell Douglas planes, but what about their cost to the DL brand? While similarly aged (or even older) A319s, A320s, 737s and 757s have been - or soon will be - refurbished to offer everything from AVOD to mood lighting, a fleet of nearly 2...

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by compensateme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta retires first MD 90
Replies: 77
Views: 21000

Re: Delta retires first MD 90

With 40 additional 321's and 10 additional 739's ordered this year, Delta may not need an RFP anytime soon if it decides to replace the MD90's at the same time or shortly after the MD88's. One poster on the airline pilot forum said that some C series may end up at Atlanta as well, not just LAX and ...

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by compensateme
Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ANA adds 3rd Tokyo-LAX flight
Replies: 34
Views: 7322

Re: ANA adds 3rd Tokyo-LAX flight

Wonder if this flight will be 10-across in economy, or if both NRT flights will go 9-across.

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by compensateme
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017
Replies: 602
Views: 109827

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2017

DL got ~3 MD90s for the price of one new 737 and the low cost mods have had more than enough time to get their ROI. On top of that the short gap fill gave DL a chance to clean up the balance sheet and not spend a ton of CAPEX on new airplanes. Except that DL wasn't in such destitute state that it d...

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by compensateme
Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TSA agent steals cash from luggage
Replies: 36
Views: 6297

Re: TSA agent steals cash from luggage

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. Are you naive enough to believe these problems didn't exist prior to the establishment of the TSA? I can assure you they did, because I was once a victim. At the end of the day, any employer with 43K people on his payroll is going to have to deal with i...

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by compensateme
Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5
Replies: 1052
Views: 72153

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Part 5

WN's dropping a flight to DEN next winter, which is surprising. Plenty of sub-$100 fares available right now -- grab them will they last...

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by compensateme
Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FNT Incident
Replies: 2
Views: 1360

Re: FNT Incident

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/21/of ... bbing.html
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The incident is being investigated as a lone wolf terrorist attack.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/21/of ... bbing.html

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by compensateme
Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FNT Incident
Replies: 2
Views: 1360

Re: FNT Incident

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/off ... rt-n775131
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NBC News is reporting the suspect is a Canadian passport holder from Quebec and shouted "Allahu akbar" right before the attack.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/off ... rt-n775131

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