Yeah I noticed that as well looking at some of the pictures it appears that you can see what appears to be almost full aileron deflection trying to get that left wing down. Obviously those pilots were doing everything they could to get control so I guess that pretty much answers my questions as far ...Jump to post
That really is sad how many PSA employees lost their lives that day. Must have been devastating to the airline. Obviously for everyone else involved as well goes without saying. I always tend to read up on accidents that come up in posts and one thing that I read a couple times, but cant seem to fin...Jump to post
Someone above mentioned the A300.... Can anyone explain to me why the A300 didn't seem to do anywhere near as well as the 767? I know the A300 came out first, but what made the 767 more successful? I know it was early off in the game for Airbus, did that have anything to do with it? My understanding...Jump to post
It's interesting how the MTOW of each variant goes up over time, so one could expect another 10% or so for that 737-10 gear to handle. (by the way, interesting, but off topic , the weight of the 10 will be more than double that of the original 737-100 which had a MTOW of 44,000kg). 1kg ~~ 2.2 lbs; ...Jump to post
This has always puzzled me....so they say the 727 was designed for short runways, or good takeoff performance I suppose at maybe hot and high locations. This is surprising to me as I always pictured the 727 as a plane that needs a lot of runway and is kind of a dog on takeoff. I know the plane can f...Jump to post
Pffft. I've done more than 6000 fpm in both 330 and 350. Just go to idle, pull full speedbrake and select Vmo. Ok, so it was negative 6000 fpm and in the sim, but still. ;) Haha nice! Yeah so from my seat behind the pilots I couldn’t see the actual climb rate on the main displays, I just know that ...Jump to post
I’d like to think I have most of you trumped when it comes to powerful takeoffs. I got to fly jump seat on a empty 752 that was being ferried with nothing more than the pilots, myself, and a few flight attendants. It was a very early morning departure and the pilot asked tower for permission to do a...Jump to post
Yeah I agree with Max Q. I took from the OPs post that he is talking about a thorough cleaning...to the point where things may be taken apart and put back together. It’s a good question because with certain amount of use things can definitely wear out. I remember seeing pictures of MD80/DC9 flight d...Jump to post
Well what counts as a “secondary” airport? Although obviously very close distance wise, some of the examples listed above are technically in different cities (even states). ORD and MDW are for example literally within the same city boundaries.Jump to post
This video always amazes me. Talk about maximum deflection lol. Not exactly a flight I would have felt 100% comfortable being on. Watch that wing dip down heavily once it gets some lift with that much deflection. https://youtu.be/i9IhQxmt08U Can anyone answer me this question that flies or has flown...Jump to post
I read originally that he put the plane into a vertical pitch up and just went straight down...found a video that almost captures the crash , or atleast like 3 seconds before the crash and it looks like he just flew it straight and level into the ground. I haven’t found it, but I wonder what his abs...Jump to post
Ahhh so that explains what Rich meant when he kept saying “hey pilot guy”. In the recordings I listened to all you hear is the Seattle controller and no one else. If available, a link to full audio would be awesome!
No found it....wow!!
What would things have been like in the cargo/maintenance area where this Q400 was parked at that time? Would it have had enough personnel walking around to where he had to really watch what he was doing or would it have been pretty dead and doing what he did was relatively easy without raising any ...Jump to post
Has there been any coverage on the actual crash site? Did Rich put it into a nose dive and end his life etc etc? Did he a really run out of fuel before he crashed? There's nothing on AVH about the aftermath. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the videographer that captured the roll...Jump to post
Hey guys one question I didn’t see brought up that Rich and the controller actually brought up. So let’s say Rich did manage to land the plane which to be honest I think could have possibly been done successfully had he really wanted to. Maybe the plane would have been damaged to some extent, but ma...Jump to post
This is a really naive question, but how else would you control speed? I'm assuming you could reduce the throttle to idle and let the plane slow down on its own if it isn't going very fast. Or he left the parking brake engaged. I’m curious to see if he had some flight training and didn’t make it to...Jump to post
TWA302 wrote:Listen to the ATC. It was busy. He just timed the taxi to 16C perfectly.
To the post above about blaming ATC for apparently not dispatching authorities to stop the aircraft on the ground before it even took off..... I get what you’re saying, but we have no idea what was going on. There is a very good chance they DID dispatch authorities as soon as they noticed something...Jump to post
Maybe he should have been towing a banner behind that Q400 demanding $15.00 an hour minimum wage. It would have been a peaceful but extremely dangerous protest. I’m only joking with all this wage discussion. Has any info been released on his current state? I know his blog that was a couple years old...Jump to post
To the post above about blaming ATC for apparently not dispatching authorities to stop the aircraft on the ground before it even took off..... I get what you’re saying, but we have no idea what was going on. There is a very good chance they DID dispatch authorities as soon as they noticed something ...Jump to post
Hmmm, hope you cant "steal" a 777 or A380 just as easily as a Q400 !! Hopefully just a bad show by the folks at AS and SeaTac...not an aviation-wide problem. And what is it with pilot suicides?...Egyptair 767 over the Atlantic -- the Germanwings A320 in the Alps...just frickin jump off a ...Jump to post
Another question I have, and I am by no means suggesting that it was infact shot down as I have no clue, I wasnt there, but the one video that shows it overflying with the fighter jet following appears to be from the same source where we see the picture of smoke. So that video may literally be the ...Jump to post
Why would a possible shoot down be covered up? I think anyone can agree that it would have been sensible to do so. What could the Air Force possibly gain from hiding it? Nothing to gain that I can think of and I don’t see any reason a shoot down would have to be covered up. Infact, and I’ll only sp...Jump to post
I'm with you. The source of the supposed crash pictures and the roll video are from the same facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/112779115408517/posts/2228260620527012/ I think his fate was sealed when he said “Damnit Andrew, people’s lives are at stake here,” Thanks for linking that, I had not...Jump to post
I wonder if he was still married. That blog page above says he’s 27 and other reports say he is now 29. So obviously that page is a couple years old I guess. Another question I have, and I am by no means suggesting that it was infact shot down as I have no clue, I wasnt there, but the one video that...Jump to post
So what’s the deal with the names, do we know this guys actual name yet? In the audio the guy refers to the name Andrew, but obviously ATC is calling him Rich.Jump to post
Microbursts develop in seconds - hence the name - and I have a difficult time believing that the cockpit crew saw that on the runway when they started the takeoff roll. I see what you’re saying, but at the start of the takeoff roll it was practically dry, then eventually into what looked like a tro...Jump to post
[twoid][/twoid] What do you mean? High tech saves lives day in and day out, say look at cars and how much safer today's cars are. Airplane accidents are fortunately very rare (partially due to that high tech) so there isn't as much direct events to observe. But even there high tech saves lifes. Make...Jump to post
Since we do not have the full information yet, I cannot rule ouy there was some luck but definitevily modern design of the aircraft and proper runway were determinant factors. I am know intrested to know whether the crew was responsible or not. So that’s my point exactly.....what modern design of t...Jump to post
In regards to some of the posts here regarding lives saved because of technology and engineering and how there have been other similar accidents long ago in much older aircraft that resulted the same with all surviving. So my post here has nothing to do with praying, I don't go there on the internet...Jump to post
Mandala499 Pihero Captain Barney etc, and countless other great contributors of knowledge and information left due to rude and ignorant armchair aviation judges. Best regards TRB Ehh that's their loss. This is the internet, you cant really expect the highest quality members and posts all the time. ...Jump to post
^^^^relax man. I don’t think his post was anywhere near like you make it out to be. He was in a way just ensuring that you didn’t mean anything against the captain who was likely near death under a rubble of cockpit debris. I’m pretty sure this is just a misunderstanding.Jump to post
^^^obviously I could be wrong here, but maybe the “impact” isnt as bad as we think and that’s part of the reason the aircraft remained mostly intact and was able to eventually slide to a stop. The reason I say this is because I have seen hard landing videos that produce basically that exact sound an...Jump to post
WOW that video is pretty intense. It is crazy how one end of the runway looks fairly normal, then just absolute zero visibility and rain and who knows what else on the other end. It looks like the plane did get airborn a little then slammed back onto the runway. Yes yes I know I wasn’t there, but I’...Jump to post
While the pictures show a trail of debris, they don't show any runway or airport facilities at the other end of the trail. Reports state the wreckage is located 10 Km from the airport. At 200 kts, that's just a minute and a half of flying from the airport. So this may be an off airport emergency la...Jump to post
My question is how did they make it back? Does the A330 have some sort of backup that doesn't rely on the pitot tubes (and if so, what does it rely on?) or did they just fly by the seat of their pants? I have no idea how it all works, but in the AF 447 tragedy the comment was made (likely by Zeke a...Jump to post
I was at work the following day and remember people talking about this. They said it wasn’t pretty, but now after seeing the video WOW they weren’t kidding. That is soooooo incredibly close to disaster based on what I see. I was told a small structure, possibly a windsock was hit by the aircraft as ...Jump to post
If it was night you were seeing the left wing nav light. They don’t flash...or rotate. Yep, that’s what you were looking at. No I think the OP has a point and is onto something, and even though I don’t know the OP, I bet he’s able to distinguish between the wingtip nav light and the anti-collision ...Jump to post
On topic, I bet any modern jet on a short ferry flight will easily make 5-6000ft a minute initially. I've been in a empty A320 on a ferry flight, with max thrust take-off and unrestricted climb and that thing flew up like a home sick angel. Great fun! Yeah you are correct, any jet will do the same,...Jump to post
I got to fly jump seat in an empty 752 being ferried and the pilots requested a high performance takeoff and unrestricted climb.....let me just tell you.....it was insane. He sat on the breaks for spool up and off we went. I wasnt able to read the digital climb rate, but I saw the analog gauge pegge...Jump to post
Alias1024 wrote:It’s like a T-Rex. Powerful legs and tiny arms.
trnswrld wrote:Jump to postBravoOne wrote:Don't think I was referring to any of your posts, and not suggesting anything reference an accident. I usually stay clear of finger pointing in airline accident matters unless it's blatant disregard for normal procedures. My quoted post was tongue in cheek.
Oh ok, I’m confused then. Carry on
BravoOne wrote:Don't think I was referring to any of your posts, and not suggesting anything reference an accident. I usually stay clear of finger pointing in airline accident matters unless it's blatant disregard for normal procedures. My quoted post was tongue in cheek.
We'll no question his age was a contributing factor if not the outright cause of this accident xxx! If you’re referring to my post about the Continental crash.... did the captain necessarily do anything wrong? He chose to abort just below V1 and steered the a/c away from obstacles beyond the runway...Jump to post