Hawaiian's position seems reasonable: No domestic baggage claim at TBIT, There is a domestic baggage claim at TBIT. EY uses that since passengers are pre-cleared at AUH. The Hawaiian argument is that there is no domestic baggage claim in TBIT or MSC for Hawaiian's use. Instead, check-in and baggage...Jump to post
I would need to see what is in Hawaiian’s contract with LAWA before I know what each party ‘needs’ to do. It is a non-signatory airline with no preferential gate rights. Technically, LAWA can force Hawaiian to move. But Hawaiian could also sue LAWA and hold up the progress on any projects (e.g., T9...Jump to post
Hawaiian unhappy about the direction of developments at LAX: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/hawaiian-alleges-discriminatory-treatment-at-lax-458595/ V/F Hawaiian can and should force LAWA to subsidize its rent at the MSC or find gates elsewhere. LAWA needs the gates at T5 to replace the...Jump to post
One more look. ... Still ugly.Jump to post
In the morning light, it still looks ugly...Jump to post
The titles look wrong - the color provides no dimension against a Euro-white background.
The globe (tail) looks generic --- boxy and inert.
The wavy cheatline looks like an afterthought. What color is it? It should have been the same color as the globe for the sake of coherence.
If this is it, it reminds me of the packaging the Ralphs grocery store used in the 80's for their generic line of products.
Not looking good.
Op-Ed with the opinion that United offers the best opportunity and public benefit for use of HND slots as its proposing to operate 3 additional frequencies, not just shift existing service from NRT to HND. https://atwonline.com/airports-routes/op-ed-united-offers-biggest-opportunity-new-tokyo-route...Jump to post
Flight Global has story with a bit more detail. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/lax-plans-concourse-0-and-terminal-9-expansions-457251/ LAWA spokesperson says both new facilities would be operational prior to 2028 Olympics. Show me the money. Show me the the time. Terminal projects take ...Jump to post
“An American spokesman says the airline is working with LAWA on plans to relocate its regional facility that would be demolished to make room for terminal” “The 12-gate Terminal 9 would rise east of Sepulveda Boulevard on land occupied by hangars and a regional concourse used by American. The 109,4...Jump to post
So both AA and Dl cannot be too happy that WN and UA are getting 11 and 12 gates added to their existing ones. Now that this is out, I would imagine that both will be complaining they are geographically restricted from additional expansion and need more gates to compete. 3...2....1 WN and UA are no...Jump to post
You’re is from 2014, mine is more current Really? The footnote appears in the Notice for Prep that came out today . The footnote is consistent with what was said in the LAWA Board Meeting. The Eagle facility stays intact until it is no longer needed. It will no longer be needed once AA's Eagle ops ...Jump to post
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AA is giving up the Eagle’s Nest by 2024 and the hangar and a new hangar will be built. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/american-set-to-begin-lax-terminal-redevelopment-450127/ AA is not giving up the Eagle Terminal by 2024. That article is wrong. See the LAWA Board Meeting at the 1:35 m...Jump to post
I would bet money on these 10 getting picked: AA: DFW1, LAX DL: SEA, DTW, ATL, PDX HA: HNL1 UA: EWR, ORD, IAD Then it gets interesting. By process of elimination, there are 9 bids for the last 2 spots. I would guess: - DL's HNL#1 eliminates HA's HNL#2 & HNL#3, because if the DOT awards any more...Jump to post
Helmut Jahn is this generation's Frank Lloyd Wright - he work is cherished the world over (and several of his works are in the process of getting landmarked), and will be for generations to come. Many people walk through T1 never really appreciating it, but there are many people who do... architect...Jump to post
I'll buy the mug from you ;) I agree with everything you said. Because I am designer, T1 played a big role in why I am so loyal to United. Every time I step into that building, whether it be leaving for a trip or coming back home, the magnificent space makes me glow inside. T1 and Rhapsody in Blue....Jump to post
Equating “the gays” with Liberace, lavender boa, and cosmos isn’t stereotyping? This gay begs to differ. Not into any of those yet I’m “a gay’. I think you are over-reading. He was suggesting that "the gays" would be in on the joke. The joke is that the male FA uniform looks like somethin...Jump to post
ORD just does an awful upkeep of the facilities in general. The outside of T1 is a perfect example. After years of not cleaning the metal panels on the sides and roof, they are black! My guess is they can no longer be cleaned. If they would have been cleaned once a year, they might not have that is...Jump to post
The male FA uniform looks like something Liberace would wear as a flight attendant. I’m sure The Gays are going to get a good chuckle out of seeing The Straights wearing that uniform. Gurl just needs to accessorize with a lavender boa and she’ll be ready for the Polaris Cocktail Service. Cosmos? Co...Jump to post
What UA lacks in the deep South they make up for in the West. Two geographic and economic crown jewels; DEN is the de facto 'capital' of the intermountain region and SFO is....well...SFO (even with operational issues). If I remember correctly, it's $300 million. That was the amount Smisek associate...Jump to post
Frankly, the only way to ensure traffic is always free flowing in the horseshoe is congestion pricing. And US politicians in general are deathly afraid of implementing this tried and proven tool to manage traffic volume. Metro has already floated the idea to pay for all the 2028 transit projects. I...Jump to post
You are looking at it the wrong way - don't forget that the structure being built is about 50% more square footage than in the original design. You can't simply scale it up. Some things have to be re-engineered and of course keeping the costs low is always a requirement. It's easy to create column ...Jump to post
Not sure how you can judge intricacy of design from a very poor quality photo There is a lot you can tell. For example, compare Pelli's rendering of the central atrium/skylight with the check-in desks (left) to the construction photo of the same view. Pelli designed a column-free space. But that's ...Jump to post
As a frequent Delta passenger I see exciting artist depictions of what the Terminal 2 and 3 rebuild will look like in the coming years. But judging from the recent holiday traffic around the LAX horseshoe this past Christmas and New Years, how can a plan for a people mover and a new Metro Line stat...Jump to post
LAX772LR wrote:Twilight shot of the new terminal by a member of the NOLA Spotters Fbook page.
First time I've seen it all lit up, including the garage, excluding the international concourse. Beautiful!
Can someone fill me in on the status of the Studies that have been mentioned in the last LAWA BOAC meeting? I had no idea the following studies were budgeted - -Terminal 9 Initial Planning (NASIP) -Terminal 1 East Initial Planning (NASIP) -TBIT Optimization Program Initial Planning -T2 FIS Moderniz...Jump to post
2) AA failed on JFK-HND, then cried for LAX... that's sooo different, huh? :roll: First of all, AA admitted defeated on JFK-HND and returned the slots/route authority. On the other hand, DL did not admit defeat on SEA-HND and attempted to hoard the slots. When AA objected to DL's usage of the slots...Jump to post
Downturns will have a greater impact on carriers NOT committed to BOS, like AA and UA. Everything sounded reasonable until this. How will a downturn have a greater impact on AA and UA, when both fly primarily to hubs from BOS? In a downturn, we are supposed to believe, for example, that AA on DCA-B...Jump to post
B6 CASM-ex is within a penny or so of DL and UA. I wouldn't call that a "significant" cost advantage... it's nowhere near Spirit, for example. JetBlue is much closer to a mainline carrier in terms of its cost structure, but doesn't generate Delta yields, and that's why this move by DL sho...Jump to post
Has it been announced that AA will takeover all of T5? If so, when completed will AA have more gates than DL? It has been announced that AA will combine the head house of T4 and T5. By the time that project is complete, it is expected that AA will have 10 gates in T5. Total gate count (including Ea...Jump to post
ericm2031 wrote:A large part of the costs for these recent projects are building the foundations to get to the future people mover.
As someone mentioned above, its done to LAX's minimum standard! Ultimately, the airlines are responsible for the final product. By and large, they decide how much they are going to spend and how much design/architecture there is going to be. For example, google T1 LAX Southwest and T3 Delta, you sh...Jump to post
If the average price of a JFK-LAX ticket circa 1978 had inflated similarly to the price of milk over 40yrs, then coach on that route would be damn near $2K today. If coach travelers were still paying fares like *that*, then airlines could justify having cocktail lounges and full meals, on 2hr fligh...Jump to post
Nope, that eyesore is here to stay. The new structure will house the baggage handling facility. The priorities and preferences of the Board change with almost every new Board member and Director, most of the time without any explanation or reason. *The Fentress design for the MSC was abandoned befo...Jump to post
Any renderings of the project yet? Yes. Here we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXq8J8aIjJA Another visualization in this press release: http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2018/American-Airlines-Los-Angeles-World-Airports-Break-Ground-on-16-Billion-Reimagining-of-Terminal-4-and-5/default.aspx...Jump to post
They are #4 in market share. Counting must be hard for you This is right from the BTS website Carrier Shares for August 2017 - July 2018 * Scheduled enplaned revenue passengers. ** 12 months ending July of each year. *** Among 789 U.S. airports, 12 months ending July 2018 Carrier Passengers Share 1...Jump to post
UpNAWAy wrote:Has A.NET hit the limit of baseless, mindless post?
While all 3 of the US3 carriers have hubs at LAX, AA is the dominant carrier at LAX, and there are a few major markets in the contiguous U.S. such as CVG, CLE, DTW, and TPA that AA doesn't currently serve nonstop from LAX. AA does have opportunities to add LAX-CVG, LAX-CLE, LAX-DTW, and LAX-TPA non...Jump to post
So what’s BA supposed to do until T8 gets built out. Is that even approved? Seems like whether they like it or not B6 has a head start on T6/T7 and BA will be their tenant. I understand your theory about BA not wanting to gift their competitor slots, but then they have to ask how important is JFK i...Jump to post
Is the new Terminal Vertical Core going to replace the airside tunnel between 4 and 5? It definitely sounded like it. They were talking about having the same experience as 6/7/8. The tunnels will remain. The T6/T7 connector was built on the roof of the building between the two piers. The T4/T5 conn...Jump to post
Beside the new lease terms that significantly increase a revenue stream to LAWA, LAWA will also benefit from the following actions, some of which are provisos of the new agreement: • The planned abandonment of the American Eagle satellite terminal by 31Dec2024. The unanswered questions - • As noted...Jump to post
No. The model is not really RDU. RDU was a unique opportunity. AA pull down offered DL a chance to take on established routes and gain market share. RDU also had a huge DL elite station and opportunities not previously attempted. RDU also did not have an entrenched market share majority. AUS cant r...Jump to post
Of course, but nonetheless, DL and the other airlines will play an important role in the process. At airports like Austin, one signatory airline is usually at the mercy of the other signatory airlines if it wants to expand. That is especially true if the airline in question is not the largest airli...Jump to post
AUS doesn't currently have the infrastructure for a hub operation, but they have plenty of space to develop it. The airport is well laid out for a future hub operation, they could add a third runway next to the current 12,000 ft one with little to no property acquisition and build several new 30+ g...Jump to post