Re: Virgin America Farewell Flight 24 April VX 1948 SFO-LAX

Farewell, Virgin America! You and your beautiful A320s will be missed!

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Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Interest from airlines is easy. Ask any airline: "Would you like a plane with 270 single class seats, that has a fuel burn per seat mile lower than the A321, a range of 5000nm and will have a list price of 160 million dollars?" ...now add those three lovely "neo" letters at the ...

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Re: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes

seahawk wrote:

Competitively priced 787 with GE engines must be a nice incentive for AirAsia and should be the best decision for the airline.

Competitively priced A330-900 with RR engines remains absolutely as a better incentive for AirAsia and is still the best decision for the airline.

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Re: SAS places order for 50 A320neo

Excellent choice. Way to go, SAS!

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Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Boeing does not need to aim for those short routes, because that is where the 737MAX already shines. They need to aim from 1500nm to 4000nm and that seems doable, as the A321 was never designed for this route length and all Airbus could bring out will be a warmed over compromise of an old fuselage ...

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Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Boeing778X wrote:

Several Airbus fans are trying to pull a "so there's a chance for the A350 still" attitude.

There will be NO A350s at AA. 787-10 is a definite possibility.

...and you know that HOW exactly??
Solid source, or claim is invalid.

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Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

seahawk wrote:

Hopefully Air Asia will follow soon.

Hopefully, they won't.

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Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

More crampliners at AA. I feel sorry for those flying in Economy class, sitting in these narrow, uncomfortable 16.9 inch seats for 10 hours... yikes!

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Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

The A321 especially will be less relevant, because on routes below 1500nm the 737MAX is very competitive and the 797 will be superior on routes over 2000nm. A nice pincer movement by Boeing. It's only your opinion. Airbus sold 5 A321neo for every 1 737-9/-10, so the claim it will be "irrelevan...

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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Lightsaber was being sarcastic, you know...

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Re: Boeing moves to keep 777X on track after engine snag

I won't be surprised one bit if this turns out to be the similar delay A330neo experienced. Boeing can sugarcoat it all they want, but if the "flight" engines aren't ready in due time, then it's time to kiss on-time EIS goodbye for the 777-9, sadly...

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Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

It looks like a Chinese copy of A321neo. xD But seriously - Boeing should give it cockpit commonality with the 787 and 777. It's the way to go, as proven by Airbus philosophy. The ancient 767 cockpit windows have to go - I won't be surprised one bit if the 797 would inherit the 787-like nose section...

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Re: LH CEO: A321LR Range Not Enough

Just because LH is "in talks" doesn't mean LH will buy MoM. I won't be surprised a bit if Norwegian ends up being European launch operator of this thing.

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Re: Update: Hawaiian signs 787 LOI

I feel sorry for everyone flying in those awful, 9-abreast Economy Class, crampy seats 787 has!

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Re: Lufthansa Cargo expects a B777XF

I wonder why the B748F isn't an option. It's bigger than an A330, probably still a bit bigger than a 778F or even a 779F, is currently available and I assume Boeing would give GEC a good discount to keep the assembly line running. Lufthansa replaced its 747s with 777Fs, along with supporting infras...

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Re: Boeing admits 747 has no future as a pax model

Ya know, I probably SHOULD'VE just asked this point-blank, sooner: WHAT, IN YOUR (ANYONE'S) OPINION MAKES THE 747 "BEAUTIFUL?" What say you all? Nothing.Along with the A380, it's the ugliest passenger jetliner ever built. Thankfully, both are dying their slow death and Mighty Triple Seven...

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Re: Vietnam Airlines studying A350-1000 and 777X for non stop flights to the US

The source isn't legit. It's well-known Boeing-paid lobbyist Saj Ahmad.

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Re: LOT news thread - 2018

I struggle to believe that LOT would relaunch the route without some form of backing from companies in the Aviation Valley. The route didn't work out before so going in with the same game plan would be outright dumb. Believe me, 99% of Aviation Valley companies have corporate contracts with Lufthan...

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Re: LOT news thread - 2018

RZE-EWR is for VFR traffic mostly. Previously, hardly any seats were sold in Business Class. Now, with two "premium" cabins, it's going to be even tougher. Yields are going to be poor on this route.

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Re: Qantas defines ULR requirements, delays order decision

777-8 with auxilllary tanks should be able to do the job. If QANTAS doesn't demand cargo, that space can be taken out so the aircraft can perform.
I'm not sure about A350-900LR, though...

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

Oh, c'mon, people... It's not THAT bad. They could always make it worse (see Finnair with that awful billboard-like name on the fuselage)...

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

We should call it... QANTAShansa!
Same design, different colours and the logo.

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Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

1. How many CSeries did they order? United would have ordered as many as 73Gs (45) if boeing didn't use their own price dumping practices at the time. Boeing admitted to that during their testimony, ("we were harmed and didn't enjoy true revenue potential" - something along these crybaby ...

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Re: Bombardier Wins C-Series Case at ITC

For UA, the larger 73G won out over the CS100. In competition, price does play a part. Don’t take this as an endorsement of Boeing’s complaint. I really am ambivalent about it other than having to endure the moaning in these threads. 73G didn't "win" at United. Boeing dumped it and even a...

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

LH526 wrote:

Ooops... Did someone just post confidential, internal - only info??? xD

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Re: Rumor: LH might introduce a new/revised livery in 2018

It's silver, for sure. I just saved the image and zoomed it up all the way.
Looks like they're keeping their dark navy blue, though. I'm hoping for silver "Lufthansa" with updated font, sort of like what QANTAS did with theirs. Now THAT would look classy!!

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Re: LOT Polish Dash-8 nose gear collapse (?) on landing

Well, I guess the issue still persists, after all. There was a picture from a while ago showing one of K2/LO Q400s circling over RZE/EPRZ with only one gear extended, apparently that time, the issue was fixed. Still... I don't think any other type experienced so many events linked to the same proble...

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Ooops, I did it again! LO Q400 emergency landing at WAW

BREAKING LO Q400 operating LO3924 landed at Warsaw Okęcie airport around 19:00CET with the front landing gear retracted. I guess the "landing gear issue" still persists... http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/43/d2/15/z22880579IE,Zdjecie-wykonane-przez-pasazerke-samolotu--ktory-a.jpg Image sourced via g...

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Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

Just let this ugly thing die and make more money selling A350s.

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Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

seahawk wrote:

Imho if one manufacturer is in a weak position is Airbus, as 50% of its aircraft models do not sell well. (A380/A330)

Using the same metric, one can say that Boeing is in a weak position, as 50% of its aircraft models do not sell well. (747 and 777X).

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Re: Is AA going to cancel their A350 order?

ba319-131 wrote:

I’d not be surprised if AA did a UA and delay the order, increase it in size and use as a 772 replacement, for which it would be well suited, as UA have decided.

Be careful. You're being rational one here, as well. It's not welcome by boeing cheergirls on these forums...

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Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

Some characters here are so fixated on hope for enforcing the tariffs they forget to read their conditions with a bit of understanding the actual text.

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Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

I believe that you may be wrong, because tariffs apply to partially assembled aircraft coming in to the US. As the fuselage and other parts are partially assembled parts of the plane that are manufactured in various countries around the world that would be imported into the US for assembly, it woul...

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Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

LAXintl wrote:

Commerce Dept also agrees with Boeing's point that tariffs apply to both fully and partially assembled CSeries aircraft that cross the US border.

Good. This means full production of CSeries in Mobile. Boeing will only lose in the long run.

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Re: Polish PKBWL released their final report release their final report in the Nov 2011 forced grear up landing

And yet the pilot of this flight was lauded a national hero? What a joke. Lauded by the media, the "common folk" and fans of Lot Polish Airlines. Not by rational thinkers (myself included) who considered pilot error as one of possible causes of the situation. There's this misconception in...

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Re: Is AA going to cancel their A350 order?

What wide body fleet at AA needs to be replaced in the near future? If we look at age we get the following. A330-300, 9 frames, average age 17.4 years, oldest frame from March 2000. 767-300ER, 24 frames, average age 19.2 years, oldest frame from March 1993 This is where 787-9 options become most us...

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Re: Is AA going to cancel their A350 order?

They're going to "play United" and order more of them to replace all theirs 777-200ERs, eventually. Contrary to what many Airbus-haters wish for.

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Re: What will Delta replace the 777 fleet with and is DAL going to order more?

Jesus Chris, Delta is going all Airbus. ...so??? Boeing no longer has any exclusivity anywhere. And neither does Airbus. OEM that gives the best deal wins. Airbus only has slight advantage as Delta chose A350-900 already and buying -1000 is only a natural progression. Besides, it's at the right cap...

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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

It does not surprise me PW are willing to cut a better deal to Delta than GE, considering their respective position/reputation in the engine world. However, you could ask when evaluating this lost order, Boeing will ask GE to play along more in future deals, or re-evaluate the lack of engine choice...

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Re: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options

One more time: congratulations to Airbus and Delta. I suppose all of them will be delivered out of Mobile, AL - which is simply awesome!

Boeing's got what it deserved. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during their next meeting in Chicago, just for the sheer joy of it!!

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Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

Good.
Good.
GOOOD!!!

Boeing got what it deserved: a shovel in the face, courtesy of John "The Mouth" Leahy.

Congratulations to Delta and Airbus Industrie.

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Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies

STT757 wrote:

I don't think they can get a smoking deal from Airbus, remember their deal with AA which was recently brought to light by Scott Kirby.

Think again. John "The Mouth" Leahy hasn't retired yet. This could be one of his "going out with a BANG!!!" deals.

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Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies

fcogafa wrote:

Easy to sell more when there was no competition.

Care to elaborate how 737 MAX 9 was being clubbed like a little baby seal by A321Neo? There are 5 A321Neos for less than every one MAX 9 sold... And MAX 10 doesn't have that many more sales at the moment, either.

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Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies

Well, the market already proven A321Neo is better, so... go figure.

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Re: SAS planning order for Scandinavian and European network

It is the older 737's that will be replaced first. These are mainly of the -600 and -700 variant, while the -800 are newer. If SAS places an order for new 737's, it will be the only legacy EU-carrier that has the 737 on order. (?) Nope. Lot is taking 737 MAXes and KLM will most likely stick with Bo...

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Re: LOT resuming RZE-EWR

There's only one government loan Lot received and was growth-limited as a result of EU anti-subsidy regulations.

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Re: DL 158, Last DL 747 flight

So, no more passenger 747s in the US?
Good... GOOD!

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Re: Boeing officially forms program office to flesh out 797 plans

Leeham says that the NMA is being pushed back to 2027: https://leehamnews.com/2017/12/04/boeing-moves-eis-target-nma-2027-sources/ Now we have another decade on this thread to speculate! :white: :tombstone: This tells me one thing: engine makers told Boeing they won't have new engines that could gi...

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Re: How the Boeing jet no one wanted became the plane airlines scour the planet for

This only goes to show that keeping 737-600/-700 going because of Southwest only was a mistake. Usual lack of hindsight by boeing, where much better product would've owned the market at this point.

Still... "keep ours, kill McDD" philosophy prevailed at the time, sadly.

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Re: Airbus A330neo Production And Delivery Thread

Hopefully, the A330-900neo will also see some meaningful order activity! The A330-900Neo did see some meaningful order activity already. It's gotten past the point where Airbus was selling it based on availability - now, the legacy A330-300 replacement market will need to kick in within next few ye...

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