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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

The cities you are mentioning are 2+ away from BNA, if I included every city that was 2 hours or less from IND, you would have CVG/DAY/SDF/FWA/NW Indiana/Eastern Illinois. That wouldn't make any sense, so lets keep it around a 1 hour drive. As someone mentioned earlier, people drive only if it save...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL
Replies: 61
Views: 9909

Re: OAG Changes 8/13/2017:DL Closes YQB; UA Adds CKB-IAD/ORD; HU Adds JFK-CTU; AM Adds SLC-GDL

Looking at flightstats.com for the new few days, the totality of YQB-NYC service is 1x DL CR2 to JFK, and 2x UA E145 to EWR. Back in summer of 2013, YQB had 4 daily UA flights to EWR, and 2x daily to JFK. This summer, it was down to just 2x daily EWR service and 1x daily JFK, as you said. Next summ...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Consider: Huntsville (HSV) - The MSA is relatively small at only ~450,000 people, but it is a very high tech, high travel economy with lots of expense accounts walking around. Lots of R&D, government contractors, and military travel. It is less than a two hour drive from Huntsville/Decatur to B...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

https://www.toyota.com/about/images/operations/numbers/TMOB0166_2013_LARGE_BROCHURE_WEB_USE_tiled2.pdf If you look on the map, Toyota has a Sales/Service office in Indiana, southwest of where Indianapolis would be. Toyota also makes the Highlander, Camry, Sequoia, and Sienna in Indiana, and purchas...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Knoxville (TYS) - MSA is moderate in size with ~850,000 people. BNA will capture a majority of the London traffic. Knoxville is already culturally tied to Nashville, so people will choose it over CLT if they can. I will make a gentleman's wager of a of an unretouched genuine Airliners.net $1 bill t...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

It's not in Indianapolis I edited it so it was more accurate for you. :lol: I'm not sure it's accurate still. Toyota Motor Sales is cars and light trucks only, not industrial equipment or fork trucks. https://www.toyota.com/about/images/operations/numbers/TMOB0166_2013_LARGE_BROCHURE_WEB_USE_tiled2...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

http://businesstravelnews.texterity.com/businesstravelnews/september_28__2015?pg=6#pg6 I found this cool site online that lists the Top 100 companies in the world based on how much they spend on air travel expenses within the US, and I was pleasantly surprised to see some companies with large prese...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

http://businesstravelnews.texterity.com/businesstravelnews/september_28__2015?pg=6#pg6 I found this cool site online that lists the Top 100 companies in the world based on how much they spend on air travel expenses within the US, and I was pleasantly surprised to see some companies with large prese...

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by Cubsrule
Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of ORD
Replies: 17
Views: 1905

Re: The Future of ORD

Would LCC's like Frontier, Spirit, etc, use the 9 new gates in International Terminal 5, or is ORD backing away from that (i.e, that Terminal 5 is a strictly international terminal). Terminal 5 has had domestic LFCs more or less continuously since it opened. I think U5 used Terminal 5 for its entir...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of ORD
Replies: 17
Views: 1905

Re: The Future of ORD

My concern is the new Terminal 2 rebuild (which I am very much in support of) is not going to create enough common use gates, because UA/AA will gobble up the space (they both stated they want more capacity). That is why I still think some sort of western terminal is needed, to ensure there is enou...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future of ORD
Replies: 17
Views: 1905

Re: The Future of ORD

Who says they have to pay for it? Doesn't the money for these projects come from fees collected from all the airlines that use the airport? And worse case, if the city had to make a concession to allow AA/UA to use a few of the gates at the western terminal so they'd pay for it (but the majority wo...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN schedule extension 8/28/17
Replies: 93
Views: 6608

Re: WN schedule extension 8/28/17

With April and May being peak months for MSY, I am hoping that WN finds the planes to make some of our once weekly routes daily: RDU, PIT, IND, and CMH. Will be interesting to see if there is any response to F9's new MSY-SAT/AUS routes, which are typically high yielding for WN. I have no idea on th...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

250mi BNA L: ATL M: IND, CVG Enplanements: 57,919,750 100mi BNA L: M: Enplanements: 250mi IND L: ORD, DTW, MDW M: BNA, CVG, STL, CHM Enplanements: 88,603,980 100mi IND L: M: CVG Enplanements: 3,261,870 Those numbers would explain BNA's domestic numbers. What does it say about demand in the area for...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Airport Passenger numbers are way too cloudy to make assumptions on O&D or to use to compare pax catchment areas, especially if a TATL is the topic being discussed. There are a lot of reasons why these numbers can not be used... for 1. Location isn't factored in, BNA is an a location that allow...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

What is your argument here, so I can respond accordingly. Are you saying that passenger numbers equal higher likelihood for a TATL flight, or that pax numbers shows the size of a catchment area? What about comparing pax at BNA to RDU/SJC, or CLT to AUS/PDX that's where your argument begins to not m...

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by Cubsrule
Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

MEM(1.37 mill) had 12 million pax in 2000, would you say MEM has that large of a catchment area...I don't think so. How about CVG(2.2mill) 22.4 million pax in 2000, would you say CVG has that large of a catchment area? Airport Pax numbers have little connection to catchment area, and it also has no...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

MEM(1.37 mill) had 12 million pax in 2000, would you say MEM has that large of a catchment area...I don't think so. How about CVG(2.2mill) 22.4 million pax in 2000, would you say CVG has that large of a catchment area? Airport Pax numbers have little connection to catchment area, and it also has no...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Population comparisons are great, though I don't think they tell us much here because we can tweak the boundaries in any number of ways and yet get broadly similar numbers. I'm looking for the data supporting your larger catchment assertion. Certainly, the airport passenger numbers are strong circum...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

The Indianapolis CSA alone is 2,372,570 + (IU MSA-192,714, PU MSA-235,013, Kokomo CSA-136,429) = 2.94 Million right there within 1/2-1 drive, within 1-2 hour drive that number goes up a lot.... I understand that math, but you used the term catchment, which implies that all of those folks use IND ex...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Then you can throw in Purdue University, Indiana University, and all the other smaller cities mentioned here and there is a larger sized catchment than BNA. Can you show this math? The number you probably ought to aim for is 2.3 million (BNA MSA + BWG MSA + CKV MSA). The Indianapolis CSA alone is 2...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Midwestindy wrote:
Then you can throw in Purdue University, Indiana University, and all the other smaller cities mentioned here and there is a larger sized catchment than BNA.


Can you show this math? The number you probably ought to aim for is 2.3 million (BNA MSA + BWG MSA + CKV MSA).

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

IND will be drawing from Ft. Wayne, Terre Haute, NW Indiana, Bloomington, South Bend, likely parts of eastern Illinois. They may also draw from Dayton, OH and possibly Cincinnati depending on price and the need for the nonstop to London. You are right. BNA is isolated and that will limit it. Rememb...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

IND will be drawing from Ft. Wayne, Terre Haute, NW Indiana, Bloomington, South Bend, likely parts of eastern Illinois. They may also draw from Dayton, OH and possibly Cincinnati depending on price and the need for the nonstop to London. You are right. BNA is isolated and that will limit it. Rememb...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

BNA is a strong domestic market. They badly lag behind in international numbers. Why is that? IND's London numbers are quite a bit higher as are the Europe numbers even with ORD 3-4 hours up the road. History has also proven that adding nonstop service stimulates demand. So if anything the passenge...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

BNA's incentives are capped at 2 mil for the LHR flight. I don't know if that is a per year number or over multi years number. If that is the case then it really makes no sense that they get the service ahead of IND. Unless of course the announcement is still coming and they happened to announce th...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread
Replies: 269
Views: 18889

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread

Is expansion really necessary in the next 5 years? 10 years? Yes and no. If you went by the way the airport looks at 7am you would say absolutely. The terminal is at capacity when it comes to morning operations. So naturally that means it is at capacity at night. But that leaves a lot of open space...

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by Cubsrule
Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?
Replies: 63
Views: 8609

Re: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?

Maybe it would be more useful to compare these loads to LH, NH and HU. I assume part of the point of these routes is that some folks will pay a premium to avoid the knife fight that is a trip up the 101 and have a better airport experience. If that's the case for all of these carriers (except argua...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?
Replies: 63
Views: 8609

Re: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?

Do you think it is not doing as well because it is too close to SFO and OAK? Just curious. I don't, and based on their decision making, neither apparently does BA. The markets, while close in proximity (and both do share quite a lot of overlap), differ somewhat. Not only does SJC not have such a he...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

In all due respect, I disagree with you. Yes, DL has a monopoly, but I don't think you realize how negatively that effected the amount of local travel to London, and I'm stating blatant facts, nor am I being biased. I've taken the time to average fares between DTW-LON and other monopolized markets ...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

For many years BA coexisted in the Detroit market with Pan Am and competed very well why do you think it can't coexist with Delta they provide a much better on board product than Delta .I think at the time BA exited Detroit it really didn't matter to the airport and they didn't fight it to much as ...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?
Replies: 63
Views: 8609

Re: British Airways London to San Jose. How well ?

Maybe it would be more useful to compare these loads to LH, NH and HU. I assume part of the point of these routes is that some folks will pay a premium to avoid the knife fight that is a trip up the 101 and have a better airport experience. If that's the case for all of these carriers (except arguab...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA announces start of PAE-SFO and PAE-DEN
Replies: 115
Views: 13516

Re: UA announces start of PAE-SFO and PAE-DEN

dc10lover wrote:
Surprised Delta wasn't the second airline calling to serve Paine Field.


It would cannibalize a hub they want to grow, and they do not have another hub very close.

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier
Replies: 71
Views: 10181

Re: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier

And I still am not sure what the bragging rights are in saying that WN carries the most passengers, even if that is true for their entire system. What does that get you? Higher pay for employees? Lower fares for customers? Higher stock prices? This. I like WN. I might even qualify as a fanboy. But ...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier
Replies: 71
Views: 10181

Re: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier

Yep. WN is 100% no-go for me due to the lack of seat assignments. WN's target audience may not care, but as someone who flies regularly, it's a major inconvenience that adds up quickly. For the record, not once have I found WN to be significantly cheaper than the other three on the routes I frequen...

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by Cubsrule
Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier
Replies: 71
Views: 10181

Re: Just a Matter of Time: SWA will be Largest US carrier

I will avoid WN whenever possible until they do the minimally civilized thing and allow assigned seating. I have better things to do with my life than ensure I'm checking in precisely 24 hours, 0 minutes, and 0 seconds before my flight and better things to do with my money than paying at least $40,...

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by Cubsrule
Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NW 747 Registrations
Replies: 10
Views: 2194

Re: NW 747 Registrations

So if I'm reading your flight numbers and dates right you flew on NW71 between DTW and MNL with a stop in NGO? Same aircraft type and flight number? But it was different planes? I would think that the same aircraft would have been used for both legs considering its the same flight number and aircra...

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by Cubsrule
Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2
Replies: 172
Views: 14388

Re: What's Going On In Nashville? Part 2

2. Will the tarmac areas ever be upgraded so the big 787's don't have to be towed between the IAB in Concourse A and where they will likely board in Concourse C? There's no tarmac issue for widebodies. A, B and C can all park widebodies. 3. What is the status on some of the BNA vision renovations (...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Based on the information from IND over the past two weeks, it looks like DL AMS-IND MIGHT be happening by the end of the year. If that is true, than that would exclude IND from the discussion. (If AMS-IND doesn't happen by Fall/Late Summer 2018, then I would think IND would come before STL for BA, ...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Now that BNA is official, I think we can narrow any discussion to STL and IND. CMH and CLE are not happening anytime soon, I'm sorry. Based on the information from IND over the past two weeks, it looks like DL AMS-IND MIGHT be happening by the end of the year. If that is true, than that would exclu...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to launch Nashville
Replies: 266
Views: 28041

Re: British Airways to launch Nashville

I don't know anybody (and certainly not high-yielding folks) who drives to ATL to fly TATL from BNA now. I think there may be some double ticketing, however. Probably not Nashvillians, but tons of folks down here in Chattanooga do that. Price and schedule being equal, I'd much rather use BNA. And t...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TPAC service to mid-sized markets
Replies: 59
Views: 5422

Re: TPAC service to mid-sized markets

The challenge with midsize US cities on TPAC is demand. The TATL service to midsize US cities are primarily driven by Europe-originating sales and I think similar demand pattern has to develop in TPAC (i.e. Asia-originating travel demand to places like SAN, BNA, CLT, AUS etc.) before we will see se...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

WE KNOW! but in the airline sense of things AUS+SAT are combined when talking about int'l air service. I don't think it's quite that easy. I absolutely think some SAT passengers drive to AUS to catch BA, but it's equally clear that the percentage of SAT TATL passengers who do that is less than 100 ...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

I mean CMH is paying WN so it can access San Fran through OAK. Meanwhile CLE has service to places like PDX and SAN. I realize that there is rhetorical value in putting down OAK, but why exactly is OAK an inferior bay area airport for CMH passengers? SFO offers TPAC connections, which aren't much g...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

I meant SAT(Metro) + AUS(Metro)= 2,454,061 + 2,056,405 = 4,510,466 San Antonio and Austin are separate Metropolitan Statistical Areas, not one CSA. They don't fit the criteria for being considered a Combined Statistical Area, which is why they aren't on the CSA list. WE KNOW! but in the airline sen...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to launch Nashville
Replies: 266
Views: 28041

Re: Rumor: British Airways to launch Nashville

Anecdotally, I'm sensing that there is going to be a lot of induced demand with his flight. The vast majority of my coworkers had all heard of this after the initial rumor-based announcement by the Tennessean and were excited to go nonstop to London. Knowledge of the flight grew pretty quickly. It ...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Hubs you have flown through but not visited the city
Replies: 92
Views: 1526

Re: Hubs you have flown through but not visited the city

For hubs for me CDG is about it, but I have flown through AMA and ECP but not visited the corresponding cities. God bless WN.

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways to launch Nashville
Replies: 266
Views: 28041

Re: British Airways to launch Nashville

Any sense of how this will be gated? I can't remember for sure, but I believe BNA's FIS gates are on A, so that would obviously be where arrivals are handled. And based on the schedule, with a 90 minute turn time, I doubt they'd be towing over to C to depart out of the AA gate area (which would the...

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by Cubsrule
Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 262
Views: 18575

Re: BA's Next US Destination

CLE is an absolute disaster. I mean with it's domestic non-stops to SEA, PDX, SFO, LAS, SAN, LAS, PHX all despite not having a hub or even a real focus city. And it shows that nobody believes in CLE because every domestic airline serves Hopkins sans AS. Clearly the lack of international service has...

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by Cubsrule
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to add BDL-BNA
Replies: 28
Views: 3043

Re: Rumor: DL to add BDL-BNA

BNA and AUS could eventually follow a similar pattern to BOS and RDU - mid to large cities with growing economies. Wouldn't be surprised to see more DL flights out of BNA. BNA and AUS both have some unique challenges in this regard. BNA, of course, has a WN hublet similar to B6 at BOS and different...

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by Cubsrule
Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW AIR Chicago route a failure?
Replies: 37
Views: 6290

Re: WOW AIR Chicago route a failure?

Both Icelandair and WOW take 2 days off on Christmas and 1 day off on New Years. That's the break you're referring to. It wasn't a cancellation. There are just no flights scheduled in Iceland on those days to give everyone time off. Every airline can have a couple of days of bad operations. They le...

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