Re: LA800 flight SYD-AKL in flight uncontrolled descent

There's a lot that is still unknown and it isn't entirely clear whether the incident was triggered by a design flaw in the aircraft itself or a software issue and reconciling all that will take time, but it seems Boeing, as it exists today, is probably approaching the end. Breaking it up and sellin...

Re: New Zealand Aviation - March 2024

New Zealand transport accident investigation commission has seized the black box off the LATAM 787. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/new-zealand-says-seizing-black-boxes-latam-boeing-787-2024-03-12/ Pleased to hear that. Was wondering... so, as suspected, no flight to SCL tonight ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2023

NZ950 AKL-NAN NZM 78-9 is returning to AKL. Anyone know why?

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2023

QF8 DFW-SYD diverting to AKL, flight left DFW about 3 hours late so it looks like a change of crew https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf8 Should there, in the case of flights where relief crews are carried anyway, be more pragmatic solutions? - QF8 today is arriving 5 hours late. Connection...

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2023

QF8 DFW-SYD diverting to AKL, flight left DFW about 3 hours late so it looks like a change of crew https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qf8 Should there, in the case of flights where relief crews are carried anyway, be more pragmatic solutions? - QF8 today is arriving 5 hours late. Connection...

Re: New Zealand Aviation - April 2023

Anyone know why QF8 is diverting to AKL?

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2022

Tonight's JFK to Auckland is already scheduled to stop in Fiji. If this is gonna be the norm then it's a pretty pointless flight. IMO there's no advantage over connecting on the west coast. Every single flight plan has alternatives / diversions built in. This is the million dollar question. Do you ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - October 2022

NZ1 is showing a stop in Fiji this evening. New York to Fiji (Nadi) Departure Mon, 24 Oct 8:55pm Arrival Wed, 26 Oct 5:00am Operated by Air New Zealand Fiji (Nadi) to Auckland Departure Wed, 26 Oct 8:30am Arrival Wed, 26 Oct 12:35pm Operated by Air New Zealand https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/flight...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2022

I didn’t say it would be regularly scheduled. I just said it can be used. I know you didn’t. How many seats blocked on AKL-JFK normally? I don't think any seats are blocked on the AKL-JFK sector as today's flight had 273 passengers so two unsold from the One News story. https://www.1news.co.nz/2022...

Re: 737 Cargo in water at HNL

Nightmare scenario.

Fuel contamination, or incorrect engine shut down would have to be high on the list of possibilities.

Re: Qantas is officially 100 years old today - happy birthday!

Best airline in the world

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - July 2020

Kiwirob wrote:

More people will probably stay home, unless you can afford it NZ isn’t a cheap place for many kiwis to holiday in.

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

I'm not going to get into a tit for tat debate over things. But year-end American arrivals were 324K prior to COVID which represents something like 0.09% of the American population. Just found this as a useful tool https://www.tourismnewzealand.com/media/3422/usa-visitor-information.pdf All, as you...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

There are two things that have to happen for recovery: - 1. The virus has to go away by whatever mechanism - 2. The economic and geopolitical situation has to be conducive to the re-creation of markets. With that said, are there routes that are sufficiciently fundamental to NZ and New Zealand so as...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

There are two things that have to happen for recovery: - 1. The virus has to go away by whatever mechanism - 2. The economic and geopolitical situation has to be conducive to the re-creation of markets. With that said, are there routes that are sufficiciently fundamental to NZ and New Zealand so as ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts as to weather IAH and ORD will necessarily fire up again before EWR starts.

Personally, I don't see anything except LAX for quite a while. NZ issues aside, the USA has huge political uncertainties going forward.

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

The problem with the 789 is that it struggles with the weight and distance of ORD and EWR. NZ wants full loads and some freight. You have to go to a really low pax count (premium configuration) to get that. That’s ok for QF because LHR is served by another of their own flights as well as by many ot...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

People are funny creatures. So NZ can cram people into 777s, bombard their senses with cringeworthy safety videos, basically steal their money to give to the shareholders and..... the public love them. But when the airline becomes a genuine, and massive victim of events completely beyond their cont...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

People are funny creatures. So NZ can cram people into 777s, bombard their senses with cringeworthy safety videos, basically steal their money to give to the shareholders and..... the public love them. But when the airline becomes a genuine, and massive victim of events completely beyond their contr...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

Yes, I find the lack of sophistication in some posters’ understanding of the world and how it works rather tiresome. Then you ought to be able to debate the argument, if you feel you have superior understanding of the way the world works. Almost every airline appointment anywhere is criticised by s...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

I think "bubbles" are a bit fanciful all-round really. Suppose we have one with Australia, and then they come under pressure to include Indonesia (which is likely). That means whatever decision Australia makes, we too are bound by - unless we close our borders to Australia again. The whole...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

I have to be extremely careful what I say here. However a few a-net myths which should be put to bed are: a) Foran was brought in with some hidden agenda to cull staff numbers. He was brought in as a result of his extensive business experience in the sales and distribution sector, very much like Lu...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

I have to be extremely careful what I say here. However a few a-net myths which should be put to bed are: a) Foran was brought in with some hidden agenda to cull staff numbers. He was brought in as a result of his extensive business experience in the sales and distribution sector, very much like Lu...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

Also if they paid out all the refunds they will go under so pleaded for the public to be patient at the moment and consider credits instead. If paying out the refunds will force them "under", then they have gone under already except on paper. Those credits still represent a liability that...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2020

Mike Hosking criticised Greg Foran on the radio this morning for being visibly absent during this crisis. Not remotely surprising in my view. Foran was bought in to NZ as a hatchet man - and while Covid-19 has given him a wonderful scapegoat for his agenda; I wouldn't expect him to be raising his he...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121625414/air-nz-projects-loss-says-job-cuts-necessary 30% of staff to go at Air NZ, or about 4000 people. Ouch. This feels wrong. 15, even 20% I could understand. But 30% suggests to me that there is absolute conviction there will not be a recovery in air travel in...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

Air Chathams resumed scheduled service to Kapiti Coast, Whakatane, and Whanganui today. Good to see them back doing what they do well! Alas some nitwit kicked up a fuss on the flight to Whanganui and got a welcoming committee for his trouble: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&am...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

It looks like the cabin was reconfigured on a number of occasions (1969 and 1975 plus one other time that I have been unable to locate). I don't believe that the 5 abreast seating lasted too long. IIRC the NAC 737-200 originally had a seating capacity of just 90 in 5-abreast configuration. My first...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

But it would probably face some sort of legal challenge (on what grounds I've no idea) from Skybus, who wouldn't just roll over and cede their patronage. More likely that Skybus will find survival tough and ask to be let in to the AT network, but even that seems less likely than keeping their indep...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

Ha!

Although don't forget "government owned" doesn't have to mean "government run". I'd love to see a government owned airline where all profits are reinvested in the airline, and the running of the airline is free of political interference.

Dreams are free.

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

I agree that the faster we get to Level 1, the better the chance of having an airline industry in the future. But let's not put the future of the airline industry (or any industry) ahead of public health. That's the kind of Trumpian response to the virus that has led to the USA becoming the world c...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

Nothing positive to say about the numbers. It's a bloodbath and probably the first of several rounds. I hope it was all completely necessary. Let's see over time whether the right decisions have been made. It seems on surface that the proclamations of the doomsayers have been accepted at face value...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

This is so true. The cleanliness of passenger areas are bordering on criminal and airlines have gotten away with it. And that's the point. It's NOT criminal, but it should be. Maybe now customers - and the regulatory authorities - will start to wake up to it. Time also to call it out for what it is...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

If we were serious about sustainability we'd have a heavy tax on aviation fuel, just like we do on road transport and emissions offsets would be compulsory and built into fares and controlled by central government. I love the fact that you can (used to be able to) fly from one end of the country to...

Re: FAA investigating Harrison Ford after runway incident

he’s another example in a decades long list of celebrities / wealthy individuals that have got themselves into trouble and / or killed themselves or others as they lack and cannot possess the single minded dedication and mandated adherence to currency and a high level of competency and the testing ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - May 2020

Another interesting topic. Winston Peters would like the Government to take back control of Air NZ. I'm not sure if the Labour party will agree to this: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121364096/winston-peters-hints-at-big-changes-for-air-nz Don’t mind that happening provided it is kept totally ha...

Re: FAA investigating Harrison Ford after runway incident

MaksFly wrote:

Harrison Ford AGAIN!?!?!?!!? Is this a new incident or just investigation of his previous near miss? (landing on the taxiway)

Re: Harrison Ford grounded

Well looks like Harrison entered the runway without clearance. Safe to say he needs grounded for good. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/harrison-ford-grounded-flying-mishap-070005823.html He sounded tired and inattentive. There are countless pilots his age still competently flying; but based on that audio...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

Didn't Dr Fauci say that he is certain COVID-19 will return in winter together with the common cold in the US? If that is the case, the only way for it to not return is completely eliminate the virus which is possible the way both Australia and New Zealand are going about it. Based on that, I can s...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - April 2020

I enjoy reading this thread but I'm sensing there is a high degree of optimism amongst some that things are going to return to normal sometime soon. I.just can't see it.There'll be flights ( and airlines ) that never come back. I agree. There’s a sense of unreality in what people are thinking and p...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

What's making you say this with such confidence? Have a read of the Imperial College of London paper which is what many are saying is what has resulted in governments taking many of these measures, so quickly. ... "these policies ... will need to be maintained until large stocks of vaccine are...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Has anyone see any information around how much NZ owes passengers for canceled flights? Ok they trying to convert canceled flights to credits instead. I don't think they "owe" anything, other than good will. Like weather, natural disaster, etc, this is an "act of god", and thus ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

I guess it's just a lie Gasman. Yes, it is. "Hospital grade" is not a bona fide quantity. In this case NZ have used it simply to sound reassuring to the layman. As I said, just because they're be extra precautions it doesn't mean it's an admission that the aircraft are flying petri dishes...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Interesting too that NZ has apparently changed the chemical used to clean the tray tables and whatever the new stuff is, it's reaction on the plastic is making them look stained. They went to great lengths to point out that while they look bad they are definitely not anything to worry about. Qantas...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

Interesting too that NZ has apparently changed the chemical used to clean the tray tables and whatever the new stuff is, it's reaction on the plastic is making them look stained. They went to great lengths to point out that while they look bad they are definitely not anything to worry about. Qantas...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

This is so awful: Coronavirus: Air New Zealand suspends 13 Australian routes, cuts trans-Tasman capacity by 80 per cent Awful, but utterly predictable and, actually sensible. QF have cut international capacity by 90%. We'll get through this. It will take a while perhaps to regain early 2020 glory; ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

We're not talking about economic rationality or people making rational decisions about their priorities. People won't necessarily act rationally even if the crisis is over in a year or two (which is now being talked about as a time frame). That's why I'm very pessimistic about the future of the air...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

NZ6 wrote:

I'd be pretty comfortable the government would step in again if required. So it won't end the airline.

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

In some sense its probably one of the biggest travel restriction since the Berlin wall came down? e.g. 9/11 only lasted a couple of days and was confined to certain markets. I think we’re witnessing what will be the largest disruption to civil air travel since the Second World War. V/F I'd usually ...

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - March 2020

I wouldn't be surprised if they shelve EWR too. Interested to know why you say this? While the market has dried up globally why stop or delay EWR? ⋅ We know NZ's into EWR long term and other sectors ORD/IAH took off like a rocket in the right conditions ⋅ We're yet to see any ca...