Re: Denver Aviation - 2024

This is just sad. Imagine boarding in January.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2024

Behind paywall. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-22/chicago-s-8-5-billion-o-hare-upgrade-falters-as-costs-balloon?srnd=homepage-americas Key comments: "Options under discussion include tweaking parts of Gang’s Global Terminal and the two satellite concourses, which are being des...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2024

Planeboy17 wrote:

To bring it around full circle here, UA actually allowed BA to use B17 for their 2 daily flights just after Terminal 1 opened in 1987.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2024

I bet that's what the airlines really want anyway: more gates and integrated FIS. They couldn't care less about making the airport a place that people actually *want* to connect through, since it doesn't matter to them if pax connect here or one of their other hubs. It's exactly what AA is doing to...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2024

So..... I thought we were going to get an announcement stating everything was to move forward as originally planned?..... https://www.chicagobusiness.com/airlines-airports/chicago-proposes-major-spending-cuts-ohare-airport-terminal-project This is behind a paywall for me, but maybe someone can dist...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2024

I suspect the grounding of the Max 9 will start impacting schedules. There's no way the grounding will be lifted anytime soon.

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2024

Reading Appendix G2 is a real wealth of information. Wow a lot in there. Interesting that they're only planning for two of the initial 15 gates to be widebody-capable. I think for many years I assumed it would be like another D but clearly they are focused on quick and easy domestic capacity additi...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

I think the project will go forward but I wonder if the proposed design will survive. There is a LOT of unnecessary cost if the purpose is to get people from ticket counter to boarding area as efficiently as possible in the current design proposal: Agreed. The final build was never going to look li...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

The airlines sure have an awful lot of power when it comes to expanding O’Hare’s capacity. It's not just ORD. The DFW board goes BOHICA every time AA turns down expanding. The new DFW Terminal F is apparently going to be just a strip of remote gates. Some of the airline power comes from legacy agre...

Re: Denver Aviation - 2023

DEN1895 wrote:

glbltrvlr wrote:

Don't forget - this is the management team that screwed up the automated baggage system...

This is the same management team for something that happened 30 years ago? That is like blaming Clinton for todays political issues.

Re: Denver Aviation - 2023

Don't forget - this is the management team that screwed up the automated baggage system...

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

Same. The App has that info as well. If I do drive and have a carry-on, I park in either A or D and Skylink (lower levels and the Red/Green lights are great). If a check bags, it's purely Uber. Luckily, I live relatively close, so Uber isn't too bad. Right. Like many a-net members, there are shortc...

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

It also depends on who takes those gates. If they are non American, then yeah, most of the check in would be in E. But if American takes those gates, then you can just check in at any terminal. You can, but I would imagine they also look at how busy the check-in desks are, how busy security is, how...

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

atlflyer wrote:

Where will passengers check in for Terminal F if it’s only a concourse?

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

I don't understand why F is not being built as a full terminal. The space is there and certainly the continued growth and patterns in the out years suggest it will be needed sooner rather than later. Why not just build it all now in one step, rather than as suggested above, do an expansion years la...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

That rendering is before they fill the space with sushi bars, Nuts on Clark booths and MAC stores.

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

GreenCountry wrote:

Perhaps they can free up gates in Terminal D for international arrivals by moving some domestic usage away from D.

Re: Denver Aviation - 2023

Coming soon to Denver is DENReserve. This is the ability to reserve a time between 5am and 5pm for TSA screening. The option is available only for general screening travelers (not TSA Precheck or Clear) and will take place at the bridge security. https://www.flydenver.com/denreserve I must be dense...

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

Gotta be more to it than that. 15 gates and a head house is a huge waste of space, particularly if E is already handling landslide. I think the whole project as currently planned is insane. Might just as well throw a dozen modular buildings in the parking lot, put a chain link fence up and be done ...

Re: Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW/DAL) Aviation - 2023

justplanenutz wrote:

Is F phase 2 a head house, or an extension of the recently completed gates 1-4?

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

yeogeo wrote:

It's easy to count gates in the Sats and OGT but who they'll be assigned to is another matter.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

I don't know the appeal of SJC vs. SFO (I've never been to SJC), but unless I owned a private jet, 30 miles seems trivial, and SFO being not a dump... I don't know how SJC does it. From here it looks like SFO is a black hole swallowing pax from far and wide. One reason to fly in/out of SJC are hote...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

At least that mile long jetway is gone.

Re: Denver Aviation - 2023

Are United no longer using the RJ gates at the end of A (A71-A87)? That was quite a hike.

Re: Denver Aviation - 2023

They may be waiting for a club to open in the A concourse before doing departures from A. That said, we pulled into A21 from LHR a few days ago. That's one heck of a walk to Immigration. On a par with the walk from LHR T2.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

"add retail space"
Sigh.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

yeogeo wrote:

One Terminal Transfer Bus route will operate between Gate B1 at Terminal 1 and Gate M13 at Terminal 5.

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

It'll be interesting to see what it looks like in about 6-9 months after new concessions pop up. While it does appear a bit sterile, I actually like the open look it has. That's the problem. My money is that it will look just like B&C and DFW Terminal D. What starts out as open space that makes...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

Im guessing you misread what I actually wrote because at no point did I suggest, write or imply opening up Polars lounges to people not traveling in business class. My mistake - I thought when the Polaris lounges opened that access was limited to just those with Polaris tickets on UA aircraft. Hadn...

Re: Chicago Aviation - 2023

Perhaps the first floor could be for anyone traveling in Polaris or in business class on LH, NH and other Star carriers and the second floor could be for Global Service passengers traveling in Polaris, LH first class and HON passengers, NH first class passengers, etc. I'm afraid this line of though...

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

Does anyone have any background as to why there isn't a connector between Concourse L and Terminal 5 or a way to link the two? Assume it comes down to cost, but seems like it would sure make connecting easier. Has it every been discussed? Easy, there's a giant HVAC building and a pair of taxiways i...

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

The odds of the current administration approving any airline merger these days are somewhere between slim and none, with the the smart money heavily favoring none. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

Want to bet on how quickly that lovely open concourse space gets filled up with kiosks selling coffee, magazines and nuts?

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

ORDfan wrote:

6 stories seems excessively tall and unnecessary, not to mention the general bulk of this building. What's wrong with lot E and the train now?

Re: Boeing moving HQ to DC

Now all they need to do is announce a new aircraft program. I don't know, maybe something that flies at supersonic speeds? I'm sure they could come up with a good name for it.

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

se210 wrote:

se210 wrote:

Dubai Air Wing A6-COM 747-433M flew in yesterday from ROC ...

ROC >> RST (Rochester, MN)

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

Wow, looks like a completely different terminal. Don't know if it was previously reported here but Google Maps has updated its satellite view of ORD (which makes it easier to visualise the M10/11 hold room from the top down). https://www.google.ie/maps/@41.9747531,-87.8910704,261m/data=!3m1!1e3 Als...

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

Elkadad313 wrote:

The ones I just viewed still have the 14/32s and no 9/27C. Got a link?

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022

PHX has one. Coffee, cold drinks, sandwiches and chips. Breakfast items in the morning. Half dozen tables & chairs. Only takes one person to staff. At those prices, it doesn't take much to keep it going

Re: Chicago Aviation Thread - 2022