My guess of potential 787 orders for delivery in the 2020-2025 period. 10 each - Air Canada 20 each - Air China 10 each - Air Europa 30 each - Air France / KLM 10 each - Air India 30 each - ANA 50 each - American Airlines 10 each - Avianca 20 each - British Airways 20 each - China Eastern 30 each -...Jump to post
Another scenario is that there is an unwriiten understanding with EK that they will take the 787 with a reduction or big deferral on their 779s. Just myJump to post
It had been predicted that something had to give as their growth could not be sustained.
https://www.ft.com/content/c8334df6-8da ... 6f43c5825d
Wonder what this means for their 777X orders?Jump to post
I'm kind of surprised the A330neo did not win. Cheaper to purchase, cheaper to maintain, lots of trained pilots around, lots of spare parts, etc. Good range, good capacity, good economy. What am I missing? Well a new a.net narrative appearing to be forming is that it's a move to get the US Departme...Jump to post
At first they did not order the B777-300ER. Instead they changed the A350-900 order to A350-1000. Why did they switch back to the A350-900? I suppose the A350-1000 was going to replace the B747-400? Why did the plan change? The A350-1000 is probably more advanced than the B777-300ER. In that case t...Jump to post
Should the 777X be cancelled now before they cut metal? It's too big and too heavy and there are fewer carriers big enough to order it. At the moment it looks very much like a 747-8i that simply won't sell, but production carries on regardless. How many of those current orders could actually be pai...Jump to post
scotron11 wrote:If any ME3 is going to cancel or defer I would think it more so EY than EK, According to the EY website, they have 62 A350s and 25 777X on order. And they have certainly racked up some big losses recently. Plus right now no replacement for Horton et al
If any ME3 is going to cancel or defer I would think it more so EY than EK, According to the EY website, they have 62 A350s and 25 777X on order. And they have certainly racked up some big losses recently. Plus right now no replacement for Horton et alJump to post
richardw wrote:mig17 wrote:richardw wrote:.... BA and they will not go 3-4-3 on A350, only 3-3-3.
We don't know yet, 3-4-3 is not unlikely on an XWB aircraft in Economy.
And you guys love to talk about commonality, but I guess you forgot BA has like, I don't know, the biggest 777/787 fleet in Europe? Why couldn't they get the 777-9 in 6-8 years to retire the last 747s? Sad that the title on topic is about IAG globally, not BA. Of course BA is, and will doubtless be...Jump to post
Although a-net members keep telling us the 779 is perfect for BA, so far IAG is displaying very little interest in them. BA are very conservative on their 744s and 773ers in that their seating is less than 300 in total. Even their A380s only have 469 seats, which is a lot less than the high density...Jump to post
On IAGs website, they currently show 43 A350s as future deliveries with 57 options. I know 18 x A350-1000 are for BA, but where are the remaining 25 A350s going? And if their options are firmed, IAG would end up operating a total of 100 x A350s as a group, which would swamp their orders/options on t...Jump to post
Even though CX reported a loss, they will not stop getting new aircraft, as quoted by South China Moring Post: In addition to an ongoing restructuring drive to stem losses, the airline said it would continue to invest in more new aircraft, add in-flight Wi-fi in long-haul planes and upgrade dining ...Jump to post
EK is the only ME3 carrier that flies Europe to USA. I really do not see what the big deal is against the ME3....there are no complaints from UK against them...and they operate to more UK airports than BA! (Yes Im aware that QR is a shareholder in IAG) Let's be honest here. I have a choice of all ME...Jump to post
Lufthansa's disclosures from 2013 to 2016 all show 34 FIRM orders for the 777X, plus twenty something options disclosed separately. This does not seem to be an option expiration at all. So there are a few possibilities now: 1) Boeing messed up with their order book (more likely because backlog disc...Jump to post
[quote="B777LRF"]There is currently no way around the 49% ownership rules. The only way Etihad could circumvent that, would be by starting an EU based company, with directors of EU nationality, and prove to the authorities the BoD have full autonomy without interference from Abu Dhabi. Goo...Jump to post
Kinda confusing...article says deadline was 6pm (I assume today) for all interested to submit non-binding offers, then goes on to say they have until Occtober to submit binding offers? What is the difference? Or is that the 6 month timeline on the bridge loan of the 600euros?Jump to post
Do a google search on Boeing 787 production costs....some are claiming Boeing will still have production costs exceeding $5Bn even after 2000 frames are produced, Sure...it's all sunk money...but Im scratching my head trying to understand why they are sticking to the 1300 accounting block when they ...Jump to post
Boeing previously said they needed an average profit of $70M per 787 to break even in the 1300 accounting block IIRC.Jump to post
Seeing as they already have MAX8 on order (75 according to WIKI) I guess no need to order moreJump to post
[\quote] Unless DL moves to the A330/A350 having a single crew (right now I think they are separate at DL) the training benefits between the two are minimal. Who gets placed on the A350 will be dependent on seniority not prior equipment and the training will likely be more rigorous than the theoret...Jump to post
Look at the weights. Newer engines can't change the laws of physics. I know I am probably going to regret this.....but yeah.....you're correct from what I've seen. The 787-9 is more efficient than the A359 on missions under 6000 nm. At extreme range missions the A359 has the edge. The heavier frame...Jump to post
So JL will retire its 77Ws before its 763s. You don't see that every day. Lighter planes for longer distances...JL in long haul is very high F and J. Even if Y is reduced to 32-33" from the current 33-34", one is still under 250 seats (current 77Ws have 244 seats). That said, it would mak...Jump to post
xdlx wrote:Now that the ink on the transfer of the first A359 to DL how soon do airliners.n anticipates to them switching the 330NEO orders to A359?
My guess is DL got the A330 Neo sooner than they could have gotten the 787-9, and I would assume a better price? For use on TATL flights I think the A330 Neo would be a very good choice. In the last widebody contest, DL wasn't pitting the 789 against the A330NEO, it was in competition with the A359...Jump to post
Cannot get my head around all the ME3 bashing! If anything they contribute more a positive than a negative, not just jobs but to aviation in general. The concern should be if any of them fail, which is a possibility giving what is happening with the situation in Qatar and low oil revenue. If one goe...Jump to post
ME720 wrote:Who in their right mind will choose DL AA or UA when they can fly The ME3, or LH LX AF BA even with 1 stop! The difference in service between US carriers and the rest (on the ground and in the air) is simply mind blowing!
DL have the perfect aircraft for India....the A359....instead of saying IF, they should do. Im sure they would do very well there. They seem to have a good enough product and an enormous domestic network to feed into. As to ME, not so much..would rely much more on O&D, even the ME3 are not doing...Jump to post
BA has less than 300 total seats on both their 744s and 77Ws. Most recently the swapped 4 789s to 788s, so I do not think the A350-1000 will ever be configured anywhere near 366 seats. As to 10 abreast 777s, only the LGW ones will be configured as such.Jump to post
So Qatar Airways still has 30 A320NEO, 16 A321NEO, 20 A359, 37 A351, 2 A388, 10 77W, 10 778, 50 779, 30 789 and 5 77F undelivered on order. That's 210 planes "to come" wile todays fleet is "only" 200 already including all new ones. Considering what is happening for Qatar right n...Jump to post
I surely wouldn't consider BA a lost customer, no. Probably right. BA weren't a 773ER customer before the 787 cock-up and like them a lot. Right now they have 18 A350s coming with 18 options plus 12 787-10s. They have always contended that these orders will replace their 744s...but it's still early...Jump to post
It's not a straightforward delay tho, is it? These are frames already produced. Same as their cancellation on the NEOs. EK cancelled their A350 order far from any production and "replaced" it with 50 A380s. I do agree that 4 frames will not break Airbus,still, the pure arrogance of QR is s...Jump to post
If they are cancelled, how would it effect RR? Whatever agreement QR and RR have, Im sure there are penalties too,Jump to post
Bigger problem for Airbus is that QR is the 1st customer for the A350-1000....and we all know what happened with their 1st A359. I have no idea what agreed delivery schedule QR and Airbus have but they could end up cancelling them too.Jump to post
I get why Airbus wants to rein in costs. But an A322 is a stopgap....nothing more. You might call it a stopgap. Others might call it a sensible hedge. The future will prove one side right, and I am pretty confident it won't be the one you're on. I remember the same crystal ball predictions about th...Jump to post
Surprised seeing as all the carriers that were "suckered" into the 787 that never delivered EIS.Jump to post
seahawk wrote:Still the design core is still from the 1970ies, the materials are old school, the design is old school the aerodynamics are not up to modern standards, the fuselage is not smooth due to the many rivets,....
BA made a filing with the UK CAA for permission to wetlease up to 9 A320s from QR to cover their flight crew strike scheduled for July 2nd. On a purely commercial basis. Just the same as QR are currently flying 4 A350s owned by LATAM. A commercial arrangement, nothing more.Jump to post
AA does specifically say that no board seats would be included, and that, as quoted above, AA's position on Gulf carrier government support remains unchanged. That said, I can't help but that think that this would almost certainly lead to Qatar being incorporated into the existing AA-IAG ATI/JV acr...Jump to post
I'd love to see Vistara help boost the 777X program, but I'm very skeptical they can make it work. India may be experiencing a surge in demand and steady growth but going from 14 narrow bodies to 50 VLA is ambitious to say the least. Is this the Paris Air Show, or the all Boeing Air Show? Seems all...Jump to post
Easyjet have confirmed that they are one of the companies that have expressed interest in AZ. “We can confirm we are interested,” CEO Carolyn McCall told ATW at a media event in Toulouse June 14. She added: “We are not allowed to comment on the process, whatsoever. We have been asked by the governm...Jump to post
Pan Am were the first 747 operator, that is the point here. Exactly, plus Juan Trippe's role in the developement. It has nothing to do with who bought what or when from another airline. It is a tribute to the Queen. Yea, and my 1st 747 flight PA100 JFK-LHR. Still remember the "flapping" w...Jump to post
Not an expert but why is an italian company filing for bankruptcy in the US? Sorry Not a subscriber so I can't read the whole article. Because they have operations in the U.S., the U.S. Bankruptcy Code offers them access to the U.S. courts to deal with their debtors, claims, assets, etc. with respe...Jump to post
I don't think having a 777-300 being your smallest plane is helpful either That's it, in my view. It's not as though they missed the boat: they were ON the 787 boat until they decided to hop off it. That's entirely on them. Ahhh....going forward the 779 will then be their smallesst plane, no? Unles...Jump to post