JerseyFlyer wrote:The confusion may be that IAG is registered as a company in Spain
Would that not be an add for EIUK if they are minded to expand at MAN? Zero ambition to open Pakistan, no presence in market or brand awareness. It's all about US holidays. BA? W route such as: LGW-ISB-MAN-ISB-LGW? It used to run LGW-MAN-ISB-MAN-LGW. BA119/118 from memory, domestic sector got a &qu...
Jump to postI wonder how tempted IAG might be to requisition EI ships... 1. They'd be better off with aircraft than ships so not sure that would help 2. Some people still think British Airways bought Aer Lingus when in reality, BA was bought out by Iberia. I would be surprised if IAG wanted to screw over one o...
Jump to postThey also let the G-MED* A321s go a end of lease.......and shifted the whole G-EUX* A321 fleet to LGW, mainly due to the new noise charges at LHR....!
Jump to postThe new Air India has gone large into the London market with the Vistara merger. LGW got AMD, ATQ, COK and GOX leaving LHR with DEL and BOM. Virgin also compete on BOM/DEL-LHR but there's a lot more capacity being flung onto India-UK, even before you look at one stop on the ME3. Quite a competitive ...
Jump to postLee757 if you're gonna use the quotes and edits, don;'t mix up who said what. I didn't say those things, that was 3AWM!!
Jump to postNo real need for new A32Xs out of BFS due to bring a bit closer to North America which is something of an advantage to the location. Yes I do see premium cabin passengers at Leeds. Can I ask you have you ever been Leeds? Where do you live fella? So if you don't see the A321NX flying out of BFS, as ...
Jump to postThis is not to say I don’t see opportunities for Virgin to increase market share but there proposition works best as a premium alternative. IAG is very competitive and IMO VS has already conceded to EI at Manchester by letting them steal a march in direct flights to JFK. I also agree that not openi...
Jump to postWhich part of the world do you live in? I don't recognise your description of this country in any way? Which UK cities other than London and Belfast have direct services to MAN? Which other UK cities of scale did you have in mind? What's the gap in the market? Virgin don't need the return of a J41 ...
Jump to postI still think the point for the need for inbound flight demand still stands. In fact hardly any UK city of any scale has flight service into MAN, even some that may be beneficial. You will probably remember that direct flights between Glasgow and Manchester received a degree of criticism when launc...
Jump to postBut does he know what hub and spoke is and why it works? The factors that you and he have sighted are things that actually make a Manchester a challenging location for hub and spoke. No one is flying between LBA and MAN, LPL and MAN and BHX and MAN, aside from LHR other airports in the London syste...
Jump to postThe MAN catchment area is way bigger than Northern Ireland. Any Virgin base in BFS would be at a huge competitive disadvantage against Aer Lingus in Dublin on price, frequency and destinations offered. You can't do this as "give it a try and see". You seem to be a little bit confused abou...
Jump to postWhy the downer on Northern Ireland? Belfast is a proper city with plenty of tourism demand for a number of reasons such as the Giant’s Causeway, being set amongst a number of areas of outstanding natural beauty. Unlike the med tourism in Ireland does depend on sunshine. I would bet there is a lot m...
Jump to postMaybe VS should consider Northern Ireland as a starter hub location with connections to the main UK airport. Geographically NI is in a great location for narrow body North American connections that could be timed to match inbound / outbound with UK airports in big cities. The Republic of Ireland go...
Jump to postMaybe VS should consider Northern Ireland as a starter hub location with connections to the main UK airport. Geographically NI is in a great location for narrow body North American connections that could be timed to match inbound / outbound with UK airports in big cities. The Republic of Ireland go...
Jump to postBA recently celebrated its 50th anniversary quite quietly. The current “Chatham Dockyard” livery has now been about since 1999 and looked great back then but now surely needs a refresh. Personally I was disappointed not to get to fly in BAs final heritage 747s which were retired tragically early du...
Jump to postDobboDobbo wrote:Would that not be an add for EIUK if they are minded to expand at MAN?
Presumably we can look forward to MAN-LGW being brought back as that is what they did in the last iteration of LGW-ISB. Always found it a bit strange that a one or two daily MAN-LGW service hasn't existed to feed the LGW long-haul unless there is some alternative plan that involves some of the LGW ...
Jump to postJannEejit wrote:*RUMOUR* I just read a post on a Facebook group suggesting G-EUPJ, the BEA liveried A319 is slated for return to service this summer. *RUMOUR*
Pushing out of 323, the end of the cul-de-sac and pretty tight as you need to push one way then swing the other to face North, they clipped the A350 as they swung out. Who handles Virgin nowadays? It used to be Cobalt but the offending tug isn't blue and I am hearing DNATA?
Jump to postYeah, that's why Virgin were charging top dollar fares out of GLA!
Jump to postI imagine a complete exit from Scotland is the most likely outcome once the EDI subsidies run dry They've gone from B744 at GLA to A330 then A350 at EDI, and have a monopoly on Scotland-MCO. They're not filling 3 weekly B744s anymore as the exchange rate is not great but they've been in market for ...
Jump to postI imagine a complete exit from Scotland is the most likely outcome once the EDI subsidies run dry They've gone from B744 at GLA to A330 then A350 at EDI, and have a monopoly on Scotland-MCO. They're not filling 3 weekly B744s anymore as the exchange rate is not great but they've been in market for ...
Jump to postMaybe the A330-800 would work for them, particularly on long and thin routes. What routes do they need the A338 for that the currently operated A339 doesn't adequately cover? As in, "long and thin" out of LHR to where?? I imagine a complete exit from Scotland is the most likely outcome on...
Jump to postNot sure what they plan to do after that with the fleet Maybe GLA/EDI/BFS? They also have a finite number of slots at Heathrow for expansion They've got LGW too? VS left LGW during Covid. I’m pretty sure they’ve left GLA/EDI/BFS as well. You'd be pretty wrong, BFS was dropped but GLA was swapped fo...
Jump to postAnd how much does Lufthansa mainline base outside FRA or MUC? DUS is no longer a base for example. Ryanair DID force great change, driving the group towards Eurowings.
Jump to postTo me it was interesting the change from Negus in late 1984, and as I recall my reaction to first seeing Landor in January 1985 "disappointing". The dirtying up of the fresh and bright Negus scheme to create the Landor scheme which to this day will always remind of what happens when you a...
Jump to postThey're doing an Alitalia, not an ITA Airways....
Not much will change from a passenger perspective?
A bit of a trip report to chime in: In October of 2022, the captain of our LHR-departing Virgin Atlantic 787 politely but firmly instructed the passengers to get settled as quickly as possible, as at 3 PM the take-off runway would switch from 27L to 27R, and if we missed that time, we'd have to spe...
Jump to postAnother main issue with 09L departure is that there is little space for holding aircraft in line waiting their take-off turn. 9L departures were only in exceptional circumstances for many years, as part of the Cranford village agreement. The government dropped the agreement around 2010, but then th...
Jump to postI can see that a start-up would be sensible to restrict its fleet to narrowbodies, but Air Transat has been operating widebodies for over 20 years - including 9-abreast A310s! https://airlinesfleet.com/air-transat-fleet-airbus-a310-300-details-and-pictures/ Twenty years ago was 2004 and I first saw...
Jump to postAnyone know if new A350 G-VNVR isin the seating config of C44W56Y235 = 335 or C16W56Y325=397 config? She's been to JFK and LOS thus far!
Jump to postA quick search on the flights proves these routes are not daily. LAX stopped well before COVID was a thing in the second half of 2019. MAN-LAX was summer seasonal and ended as planned. It didn't return the next summer for obvious reasons. If you are saying Virgin dropped MAN-LAX pre COVID due to pe...
Jump to postI do not understand that. VS operates daily to JFK and ATL this summer from MAN as you would see if you researched it. As for demand on LAX, read the preceding entry. It correctly states that the indirect passenger numbers are higher than for e.g. BOS. It was indeed cancelled because of covid. When...
Jump to postDelta's lie-flat 757 config (75S) are being converted to domestic First. The 321neos replacing them on premium transcon routes starting this year, overwhelmingly JFK-LAX/SFO, won't even be ETOPS rated. Forget about DL narrowbodies TATL. They won't be going east of KEF. (Yes, there will remain some ...
Jump to postdiamondchap wrote:skipness1E wrote:Aren't they sending DL B757s to Shannon this summer?
No: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1489891&p=24174807&#p24174807
MAN-BOS has Delta with a 757 written all over it before Aer Lingus get in there first with an A321 if I'm honest and was due to happen in 2020, but you know the rest! Delta's lie-flat 757 config (75S) are being converted to domestic First. The 321neos replacing them on premium transcon routes start...
Jump to postReturned from Atlanta on VS104 last Tuesday night. 126 pax on an A350-1041, with another VS A330 parked alongside on departure. Is that viable? In the depths of winter it's not uncommon. Post Christmas, pre Easter... It's also a JV with the dominant ATL based US megacarrier, same question applies f...
Jump to posthttps://airwaysmag.com/china-airlines-s ... eing-747f/
Do we know what 5 have been sold by China Airlines?
Wardair did the same, they stepped away from being the best in a niche and went big with 14 A310s on order and a fleet of Fokker 100s coming, the idea was you had to grow big to survive. That being said, the status quo wouldn't have lasted with either in a changing world. Trapping BCAL at Gatwick wa...
Jump to postWhat 'killed' Laker Airways was too rapid expansion, not the 'skytrain' concepts itself. The daily services to New York and Los Angeles were profitable. Afterwards, they just ordered too many planes to quickly and had insufficient capital to finance it. Skytrain was a high volume low cost concept w...
Jump to postFreddie Laker was the only one able to pull off ULCC long distance from Europe to the states ... he had gotten planes dirt cheap to do it ... https://simpleflying.com/laker-airways-brief-history/ The Skytrain concept killed Laker Airways in just under 4 years. They bought a new fleet of 11 DC10s an...
Jump to postThe first 787-8 to be fitted with the Club Suite is about to re-enter service. New config: 31J 37W 136Y total 204 versus 214 for the old config. Are there any upgrades to the seats/ife in W & Y? I strongly assume it will be the same seats as their 787-10 and 350, also the 77Ws with Club Suites ...
Jump to postBangkok is well suited as a Gatwick destination. What about KUL? Isn't that also a lower-yielding port like BKK? Why is KUL being done from LHR, but BKK isn't? ... as slots at LHR become even harder to acquire, you will see further expansion of the airline portfolio and the destinations available f...
Jump to postBA is to resume daily LHR to KUL and start 3x weekly LGW-BKK this winter. Wouldn’t this require an additional aircraft at gatwick, unless a route gets moved to heathrow? Wonder what aircraft KUL will be operated on. I’m guessing probably the 777-200 KUL was a B789, I suspect they'll start again wit...
Jump to postOS is going to fly their „new“ 787 from VIE to some European destinations for crew training purposes, in addition, they’re planning 777-flights to destinations such as Larnaca, but you’d have to look up their website for more specific information on dates and everything. Any idea which European des...
Jump to postVirgin have been in market for decades and built customer and brand loyalty, even from the US POS. Upper Class may mot be what it was but many still love it. So even in a metal neutral JV, you can see why the new additional DL flight has had relatively poor loads.
Jump to postAnd also, are the two ex Hainan A350s really still in C33Y301 config?
Jump to post1. Any reason why Iberia Express livery was removed from much of the Air Nostrum fleet even though most still carry Iberia titles, some are now just plain white? 2. Is ATR72 EC-LRU a genuine retro livery or just kept in REALLY good looking nick? It's still in the old livery and looks fresh from the ...
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