[quote="PanHAM} and it is European, not German only.[/quote]
It's German dominated, a recurring theme in modern Europe. A tin ear does not make for a medium term strategy.
LH act like a bully to SN and OS, but isn't even able to have their own house (Eurowings) in order Not really. Its quite simple really - LH Group (like IAG) is a holding company. You want access to the bank coffers you need to earn it. Group will spend finite resources on units where it believes it...Jump to post
What's the VS/DL slot portfolio. In terms of daily departures, for VS it's growing again :
So I guess DL were using some VS slots which have gone back?
In fairness LHR's expansion case started the now discredited "regional connectivity" argument. David can hardly be blamed for pointing out the obvious! We disagree it's discredited, it's an opportunity like Brexit that certain people refuse to see any benefit in. David has a LOOONNG histo...Jump to post
So.. after people were talking Gatwick as Ethiopian 2nd UK destination, MAN has been announced. Operating 4 weekly 788s from December. Not too sure if BRU-MAN wuill be 5th freedom though. Hiopefult itwill be delinked quickly. Remind me, do we really need an expanded LHR to benefit northern Britain?...Jump to post
For a holding company that doesn’t hold an AOC, they’ve just replaced the enormous BA WORLD CARGO branding signs on the South Side at Heathrow with their own IAG Cargo one. Given much of BA Cargo staff were relocated over to IAG Cargo, do BA have their own cargo operation anymore? And will the enorm...Jump to post
Started summer 2006 as GS7965 TSN-CKG-LGW operating Wed and Sat into Gatters.Jump to post
It’s funny how wrong some long held theories turn out to be when someone rebels. Virgin Atlantic of course serves a host of non Atlantic destinations. Northwest Orient began to lose some of it’s lustre when they dropped the suffix, but the best example is “Norwegian” who fly many thousands of passen...Jump to post
JibberJim wrote:Pe@rson wrote:This summer with EK:
6x daily LHR
3x daily LGW
1x daily STN
2x daily BHX
3x daily MAN
1x daily NCL
2x daily GLA
How does the UK DXB traffic compare to other countries?
sandyb123 wrote:Good news for EDI. Will this result in a downguage at GLA? Perhaps GLA will go to 1 x A380 daily and EDI 1 x 773.
Indeed, I lived in E14 at Canary Wharf and the the power goes on as the arrivals come off base leg to turn final, it's not quiet at 4am but it is limited. It would not be acceptable to have that racket all night. Also timezones play a huge part, traffic patterns in DXB and HKG are partially dictated...Jump to post
It’s not a small minority, it’s an enormous majority who would oppose this. No sane proponent of expansion wants landers over London in the middle of the night. Beyond stupid, he must know this is a non starter, perhaps that’s his intent. Stupid beyond belief. When you say “he does have a good point...Jump to post
Hard to beat a dependable Airbus Quad when it comes for filling in for unreliable 787s. Man, it feels good to be an A340 fan right now! It sure does. I love logging in to read kindergarden comments #myplaneisbetterthanyours I wonder if she'll get a repaint? Seems odd given the addition of the four ...Jump to post
VS39/40 launched summer 2007, ended late 2009 to go seasonal summer only, operated as such 2009-16. This route hasn't operated since end of summer 16, so been away a while. With BA/AA in a JV and UA based in ORD and LHR open to all comers, it was difficult to replicate the old magic touch of being b...Jump to post
This is bonkers. You can get a decent fare with BA as they charge through the nose for J on 744s with a premium cabin up to door 4. Really. 86J cabins on the subfleet to JFK. If DI want to lose money flying for peanuts just to build market share, at a loss at the bottom end, then yaaaay for the cons...Jump to post
Delta don't re-register aircraft as a matter of policy, Southwest did re-register a 737 as it was involved in an accident. In reality the only people who they would try to fool by doing this (us) are the people who would be able to check and know in under 10 secs. Joe Public would never know, not ev...Jump to post
[twoid][/twoid] What kind of brand recognition does Delta have in the UK market? I'd say it's very limited beyond those who regularly/have been to the USA or are FF'ers and certainly nowhere near as recognisable as the Virgin brand in general. I recall this being one reason why DL handed over the MA...Jump to post
My worry is that they’ve had to get a subfleet for MAN. Again.
I doubt they’ll go east tbh, they’ve dropped NRT and BOM (again) from LHR and JNB, LOS, PVG, HKG, DEL and DXB are all that remain that aren’t North Atlantic routes. The focus is on the US and rightly so IMHO.
From what I know, VS and DL has a JV on the Trans-Atlantic market. Also, although Virgin Atlantic is a well known and recognized brand. It is simply not the brand that it used to be. All the image of a "fun" airline seems to be gone. They still have no real feeder traffic in Europe and ad...Jump to post
Let me be devil’s advocate for a mo. They tried to compete with BA. Admirable. BA got into bed with AA and the old cartels were rebranded as “alliances”. BA/AA is an incredibly powerful JV at LHR. At the same time LHR is no longer a closed shop, DL, US, CO and NW all got in, and then 3/4 got merged ...Jump to post
Hang on, this is confusing. I thought that American, Air Canada and United's fleet of B762s that we used to see daily in Europe were all B777-200ERs? They were referred to as ER's in the dead-tree publications of the time, but on the likes of planespotters.net some are not listed as such. Americans ...Jump to post
Loads of brand new expensive cutting edge aircraft being used to a fraction of their range and performance capability being filled below cost. #winnerJump to post
Genuinely no idea what your point is. Which statement is incorrect? The one when I imagined flying on a more than half empty B744 LGW-MCO last Jan? OKO I am not making myself too clear I guess. Given the obvious seasonality, of a major uptick during the summer peak and especially the school holidays...Jump to post
OK they're very cheap from the UK POS, perhaps not so from the US. MCO-LGW is not double daily on BA over the winter, 2017W was 8 weekly, 2016W was daily. 2017S for BA was 14 weekly so capacity drops by *HALF* in the winter. VS was 12 weekly 2017W, 15 weekly in the summer, for 2016W VS only 10 weekl...Jump to post
Oh mcogator, load factors stay up because the 2nd and 3rd dailies are taken out for the season and flights are sold at off season prices. This is where you are mistaken. OK explain. I have LGW-MCO records going back by frequency going back to 2005 and I have used this service last two winters marve...Jump to post
Oh mcogator, load factors stay up because the 2nd and 3rd dailies are taken out for the season and flights are sold at off season prices. Why are you taking that as a crticism? MCO-UK is a seasonal holiday market, not a year round business destination or hub like MIA. It’s hardly anecdotal when wint...Jump to post
They're sure as hell making more than BA out of MCO. Really? Virgin fly half empty 747s through the winter with a tiny business cabin. BA don’t even offer F. GLA and BHX are overwhelmingly seasonal and outside the summer peak, so is MAN. BFS is summer only. It’s like say why don’t BA operate region...Jump to post
Like what? If VS and MT are printing money with 4+ routes and multiple frequencies from MCO, it should be crystal clear to BA that there is a market outside of London. If we put aside LHR for a second, it shows just how measly their operation is. Evidently, they are literally the only longhaul UK a...Jump to post
BA is in a fairly weak position to start LHR for a few reasons: 1. MCO is probably the only route in the US where BA has any real competition and is third or fourth at best out of the MCO-UK market. VS and MT are flying 4-5 frequencies a day and both offer a much stronger product than BA and to man...Jump to post
ISTBC but even though LHR-LAS is out of T3, it does have a very high % of connections?Jump to post
We had this very same thread a few months ago. There is almost zero paid business class on LGW-MCO, it’s points redemption with no F offered as well as overwhelmingly UK originating. i.e. it’s a perfect fit for Gatwick.Jump to post
When you say customers demand lower prices, it's true, but the terminology is off. ONE GROUP of people with disposable income, who fly frequently and often, demand more and more for less. To get this, another group of people, with less disposable income need to work harder for less. I travel more at...Jump to post
all Airlines are going to non recline in short flts, I already know TP and BA ... the others will follow, no recline means lighter, less parts, less maintenance= less money. the pax will get what they pay for. Well that does make sense if everyone in them is on the cheapest fare but since much of b...Jump to post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390 Tim Lancaster lived on after being sucked out through the front window and pinned half naked to the outside of the flight deck roof for the remainder of the flight. The crew assumed he was dead but held on just in case and also to prevent the...Jump to post
You’re predicating your arguement on the assumption they’d want to move routes to LGW for “emerging markets”. That’s wrong IMHO. LGW was a loss maker that baffled BA for decades, literally decades. It now makes money for two reasons. They slashed and burned costs by cutting wages again and again the...Jump to post