Re: Cold Weather Cancellations in the US

I can imagine a flight from MSP-MIA, or vice versa, today with a temperature difference of almost 100°F, or 120°+F when considering wind chills. I know I'm a pansy when it comes to cold, as I wear 3+ layers when the temp dips to 50°F. All those extra layers people must carry on the flights between o...

Re: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2019

MCO's published passenger numbers for 2018 Domestic 41,095,987 +6.2% International 6,600,640 +11.6% Totals 47,696,627 +6.9% Not too shabby! Congrats! Still beats MIA's 45 million :) And as long as CLT didn't grow by more than 3.9%, this would make MCO the 10th busiest airport in the US. Based on CL...

Re: 787 In-Service Thread - 2019

China Eastern 789

Shanghai Pu Dong – Melbourne eff 01FEB19 MU737/738, 1 daily
Shanghai Pu Dong – Singapore eff 01FEB19 MU543/546, MU567/568

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2019

I’m trying to think of an airport that has a comparatively competitive capacity split between the US3+WN and am coming up empty. Part of what makes LAX so exciting to be sure. My original home airport, MCO, is pretty competitive outside of WN. November 2018 stats. Southwest Airlines Co 477,890 485,...

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2019

Yes, 21% of total ops compared to 16% for DL and UA each, and 13% for WN. That is not dominance. https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-web/statistics/market-share-statistics/m_share-2018.ashx%3Fla%3Den%26hash%3D7582814AB63B9EFA3B855D4D5E1E87972FA0DE11&ved=2ahUKEwiDxsqzrePfAhUKiFQKHTg9DHgQFjABegQIBx...

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2019

AA might be the largest carrier at LAX but hardly 'dominant'. Yes, 21% of total ops compared to 16% for DL and UA each, and 13% for WN. That is not dominance. https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-web/statistics/market-share-statistics/m_share-2018.ashx%3Fla%3Den%26hash%3D7582814AB63B9EFA3B855D4D5E1E87...

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2019

While AA, DL, and UA all have hubs at LAX, AA is the dominant carrier at LAX, and there are still some more domestic nonstop routes such as LAX-CVG, LAX-CLE, LAX-DTW, LAX-MEM, and LAX-MKE that could be added by AA at LAX. AA might be the largest carrier at LAX but hardly 'dominant'. Yes, 21% of tot...

Re: LAX Aviation Thread - 2019

Good idea for a thread. I think what we might also find crops up as highly relevant, impactful, and thus worth discussing here is the impacts of construction essentially across the airport that will kick off in a big way this year. They’re just rumors, but I’m hearing there’s talk of clearing out t...

Re: China Eastern A350 & 787 routes

First few 789's going to FM, will be operated on PVG-SIN and PVG-MEL, flights which are currently marketed by MU and operated by FM A330's. I believe these routes will be fully handed over to FM and marketed as a FM flights later this year/early 2019. That would be amazing as I have a PVG-SIN in mi...

Re: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2019

How is CLT doing this year in terms of growth? With the growth at MCO, this should move them past CLT into the top 10 busiest airports in the US.

Re: Orlando Aviation Thread - 2019

What a huge spike in international traffic! https://orlandoairports.net/press/2019/01/07/orlando-international-shatters-the-47-million-annual-passenger-mark-in-november/ November 2018 Statistical Data: International passenger traffic spiked 23.98 percent to 563,110 travelers in November Domestic tra...

Re: Orlando air service discussion - 2018

neomax wrote:

Re: Rumor: Royal Air Maroc (RAM) To Start Miami

My rich Moroccan friends that I went to college with at the University of Florida all travel back and forth from Miami to Casa Blanca/Rabat multiple times a year. Also, Orlando has a very large amount of Moroccan immigrants. I'm not sure if they would rather connect at JFK or fly direct from MIA.

Re: DL and Colombia

I'm afraid that Colombia's history of drug cartels and associated violence is still very much in the minds of many Americans. The reality is that beyond those who have family, friends, or business ties in Colombia and those who are of Latin descent, the majority of U.S. citizens would not consider ...

Re: China Eastern to launch Shanghai - Pittsburgh charters

So what does the first flight from PVG do? Wait, fly back empty, or most likely ferry over to JFK to operate one of their flights from there? It says there will be outbound PIT charters too. I cant imagine they can fill a 77W from PIT by only being able to book through a charter company. I'm sure i...

Re: DL Ending MKE-MCO non-stop?

12 months ending 12/17 for MKE

#32 domestic market from MCO.
553 avg daily seats
85.4% load factor
9.90 cpm(one of the lowest non west coast)

Doesn't look like a market DL would want to fight for year round.

Re: China Eastern to launch Shanghai - Pittsburgh charters

So what does the first flight from PVG do? Wait, fly back empty, or most likely ferry over to JFK to operate one of their flights from there?

Re: Big airports without transfer passengers

Although don't have any hard numbers, I would venture to guess that very few of the 44.6 million people that go trough MCO yearly are transfer passengers. O&D 12 months ending 2017 Q3 US top domestic O&D 1. LAX- 50 mil 2. ORD- 38.6 mil 3. LAS- 36.5 mil 4. DEN- 36.3 mil 5. MCO- 35.7 mil 6. A...

Man punches deaf pregnant woman and service dog on F9 flight at MCO

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-punch-airplane-dog-pregnant-woman-20180518-story.html A 59-year-old man punched a deaf pregnant woman and her service dog inside a Frontier flight upon landing in Orlando on Friday. Petrini Manley complained of being allergic to dogs as the plane ...

Re: JetBlue to Anchor new MCO Terminal

For B6 to grow that much, would they at long last look at Canada? They could easily fill 1-3x daily from YYZ, YUL, YOW, YQB, YHM, YHZ in winter. Do B6 do any seasonal destinations? Most like not Canada, more likely Caribbean, Central America, Mexico and Northern South America. Lima, Aruba, Providen...

Re: JetBlue to Anchor new MCO Terminal

evank516 wrote:

Wow I didn't realized B6 surpassed DL in terms of daily flights. I really have to wonder where the other 37 flights are going to come from though. Their route map doesn't have enough dots IMO.

Re: JetBlue to Anchor new MCO Terminal

Good, they need a new place to grow. And they'll beat WN to the punch if the want to beef up MCO-International. I don't think Southwest needs to look over its shoulder at JetBlue in Orlando. As of Feb 21, 2018, Southwest will offer up to 186 departures a day to 54 cities : That Orlando Sentinel art...

Re: MCO expanding its expansion

Its approved, along with Jetblue's move. https://orlandoairports.net/press/2018/05/16/goaa-board-approves-additional-gates-at-orlando-international-airports-south-terminal/ the Board also authorized a Memorandum of Understanding with JetBlue Airways that provides for JetBlue to operate both domestic...

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

US-India is very long and low yielding. The ME3 and soon WOW in the market, the economics will be worse than the last time delta tried it. I just don't see delta making a ton of money in that sector. Wow I think has almost endless potential on North america-india, delta I think has very little real...

Re: Israel and Iran trade fire

NSA head John Bolton and Senator Tom Cotton, probably are so excited about this turn of events, and looking forward to getting us into another war. Let's hope, Iran needs to be dealt with, they are a terror state and need regime change. The US shouldn't be involved in regime changes in Iran. Look h...

Re: Orlando air service discussion - 2018

https://orlandoairports.net/press/2018/05/09/record-first-quarter-traffic-at-orlando-international-airport/ ORLANDO, FL. – Thanks in part to 309,000 additional seats coming into Orlando International Airport in March, the first quarter of 2018 is another one for the record books. Domestic passenger ...

Re: UAL, DAL & AA, who is # 1, 2 & 3 across the Atlantic?

What about Latin America? Well, they did update all of the 777-200ER and the 787 and A330 are not bad. The 767 is about to be retired anyway. Of course there's the 757 with no PTVs anywhere. All the 77Es are updated already? I don’t think that is the case. AA really needs to get those 787s in so th...

Re: F9 announces yet more new routes

drdisque wrote:

I can see JAX-LAS/MSP/STL working. BUF/MCI/MKE I really don't see where the pax are going to come from.

Re: RUMOUR: Etihad going to announce to cancel & defer aircraft.

Well at least Abu Dhabi has the rise of oil prices to help pad their bottom line. At 3 million barrels/day, and about $20/barrel increase in price this year, they can make up that Etihad loss real quickly.

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

US carriers seem to be having a harder time in China this past year. The promise land of unlimited growth finally seems to be slowing. I think it has much more to do with fares being rock bottom. I can fly from LAX to multiple cities in China TOMORROW for $500, or less, round trip. Heck, even HKG i...

Re: China Airlines announces TPE-ONT service

There are no convenient airports for the Korean or Japanese communities in L.A. proper, though LAX is the closer of the two airports. Getting out of downtown is a pain almost anytime of the day, except late nights and holidays. That's often overexaggerated. I live downtown off Wilshire. It rarely t...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

Genuinely no idea what your point is. Which statement is incorrect? The one when I imagined flying on a more than half empty B744 LGW-MCO last Jan? OKO I am not making myself too clear I guess. I'm really not sure how I can explain it any better. Really? Virgin fly half empty 747s through the winte...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

Oh mcogator, load factors stay up because the 2nd and 3rd dailies are taken out for the season and flights are sold at off season prices. Why are you taking that as a crticism? MCO-UK is a seasonal holiday market, not a year round business destination or hub like MIA. It’s hardly anecdotal when win...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

The CAA stats for 2017 show this for passenger numbers BFS MCO 9176 BHX MCO 624 BHX SFB 16021 BRS SFB 11458 CWL MCO 1260 EDI SFB 2305 EMA SFB 10908 GLA SFB 21755 GLA MCO 98136 LGW SFB 39862 LGW MCO 826319 MAN SFB 48150 MAN MCO 479902 NCL SFB 23073 STN SFB 3462 STN MCO 28314 11 airports connected to...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

Really? Virgin fly half empty 747s through the winter with a tiny business cabin. BA don’t even offer F. GLA and BHX are overwhelmingly seasonal and outside the summer peak, so is MAN. BFS is summer only. It’s like say why don’t BA operate regional to NYC? It’s been covered time and time again. Any...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

I thought it was because MCO was more of a family vacation destination, and in the London area, LGW is the airport most carriers (VS, BA) use for their leisure flights. Orlando is the number 1 convention/conference city in the US, as ranked by CVent. Las Vegas moved up to #2, past Chicago last year...

Re: 9 Dead, rundown by vehicle in Toronto

So he is pissed that women turn down his advances. He seems to think that makes him less of a man. Bigly. So he concludes, "In order to punish those women, I'll rent a van and plow down random people." OK. Yeah. Go with that. The world will completely understand your logic (and horniness)...

Re: OAG Changes 4/22/2018:AA Drops MIA-OMA;AS Suspends DTW-PDX; AV Adds BOS-SAL, MCO-GUA/LIM/SAL;B6 +GCM-FLL;UA +ORD-SHD

F9 YOY Compare F9 ATL-CVG OCT 0.1>1.0 F9 ATL-MCO SEP 0>1.0 F9 ATL-MIA OCT 0.7>0 Interesting F9 ATL-SJU AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4 F9 AUS-IAD SEP 0.6>0.4 OCT 0.9>0.4 F9 AUS-PHL SEP 0.6>0.4 F9 BNA-LAS SEP 0.6>0.4 F9 BNA-MCO SEP 0.6>0.4 OCT 0.9>0.4 F9 CLE-MCO AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.4 OCT 2>1.4 F9 CLE-PD...

Re: Orlando to London: Why no flights to Heathrow?

BA sells connecting tickets from MCO. I've done MCO-LGW/LHR-PRG on one single ticket. This was a long time ago, 2002, but it is still sold. More recently, my friends did MCO-LGW/LHR-ATH a couple years ago for a wedding.

Re: Rumor: New DL flights from MCO

I'm still on the DL MCO-EZE train. There is a local market, plus DL can market one of their LAX-MCO flights as a 1 stop LAX-EZE to compete with AA's new NS to EZE. I'm sure the O&D on ATL-EZE is quite a small percentage of those traveling, and maybe shifting 3x/weekly flights to MCO could work. ...

Re: Int'l Carrier Load Factors at Top 30 U.S. Airports

Since the airlines are sending in the data is it possible that they could be sending in false numbers to make the LFs look better than they really are? I would think opposite. They would send in false numbers to make the LF look worse, to discourage competition. Carriers don't want to file false re...

Re: Orlando air service discussion - 2018

Just received this press release in my inbox. https://orlandoairports.net/press/2018/04/18/orlando-international-airport-will-be-first-to-utilize-biometrics-to-expedite-international-travel/ At today’s April meeting, the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority (GOAA) Board voted to position Orlando Inter...

Re: Orlando air service discussion - 2018

I would like to add that Clear is pretty pointless at MCO. When I use it at LAX, they let you in at the front of the line. At MCO, you only skip the outside queue, but still have to wait through most of the line. I've done LAX-MCO-LAX on DL 4 times so far this year, and its night and day between the...

Re: Int'l Carrier Load Factors at Top 30 U.S. Airports

dfwjim1 wrote:

Since the airlines are sending in the data is it possible that they could be sending in false numbers to make the LFs look better than they really are?