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by jumbojet
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

I keep peaking back at this thread, Waiting to jump into some intelligent discussion I have never seen a 19 page thread filled with so much BS, speculation, and misinformation. What is happened to airliners.net? It’s become like sports forums. My team this my team that. But I agree this is actually...

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by jumbojet
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

It’s something I have found interesting as well. Delta is great no doubt but why there is this need to push everyone else down is amazing to me. Just be happy with your favorite airline and move on. JetBlue can’t and most likely will never match Delta it’s also a 19year old playing with much much o...

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by jumbojet
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announces reduction in recline on A320 fleet
Replies: 175
Views: 19809

Re: Major US carrier announces reduction in Recline

I love the reaction on this thread. If UA announced this, the reaction would 180 degrees opposite. And thats because its not the amount of the recline that matters as much as the service itself on board the plane as well as the fact that DL, being the #1 airline in the U.S. has the reputation to be...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

DL has one flight a day on BOS-SFO for half of the year and served with 757 with no lie flat seating. When you equate that to 5x daily of B6, that's a bit of misdirection, don't you think? It would be a misdirection if I had said it in a form that wasn't a simple parenthetical as an aside to the pr...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

you keep dancing around my question; how is Blue going to disrupt the J far LON market? AA/BA & DL/VS nearly 1000 J seats a day VS maybe 90 a day for Blue, at most likely off peak travel times for blue. And blue will need a better IRROP plan if they think stranding someone in London for a few da...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

Lets talk a little bit more about how tphuang thinks Blue is going to come waltzing through the door as a LON incumbent and completely and totally disrupt the J fare market. 1. If Blue is even able to get 5 flights a day into LHR, 3x JFK and 2x BOS, they sure as heck won't be 'prime time' business s...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

Remember, it's the J market that they are disrupting, not Y. Y prices are not that outrageous. J fares on JFK/BOS-LHR are way overpriced. 3 flights of 30 J seat each is 90 seat. That's a lot more than 12% market share on BOS-LHR. That might be more than what DL/VS offers right now. Blue isnt going ...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

The chances of Blue being successful are not guaranteed in this market, not by any stretch. Big, important questions remain; what slot times are they gonna wind up with? What will their irrop plans be to get people home in the likely event of flight delays and cancellations? Also, How many business ...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021

Primary LHR flying from say JFK no, but I could see LRs on say JFK-LGW, BOS-LGW, BOS-CDG, BOS-AMS, etc. Not only could it match B6's product offering, but it could, if need be, rightsize capacity. The cargo point is a good one, but as for LRs DL has 100 321neos on order. A chunk of that order could...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

PHLspecial wrote:
I'm wondering if should have a counter on how many times people will say JetBlue will fail.
Congratulations to JetBlue, I wish the success on this routes to Europe.


you can count me in.

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

Blue over the pond will be a disaster. The current management has no idea, nor no experience in matters like this. A day doesnt go by that they have no less than 10% of their network suffering from delays, and thats on a good day. I can see current CEO, COO and company getting the boot after long.

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian: Postponement of delivery of Airbus and Boeing aircraft
Replies: 26
Views: 6891

Re: Norwegian: Postponement of delivery of Airbus aircraft

msycajun wrote:
Hm, I wonder who might be taking the aircraft... Coincidence this is being announced the same day as B6's announcement?


Norwegian is taking over Blue

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

AusBT are reporting on this event this evening (here in Australia) that it will be flights to London with a Mint 2.0 that is all single seat Thomson Vantage Solo's. Link: https://www.ausbt.com.au/jetblue-new-york-london-airbus-a32-flights-mint-premium-business-class?utm_source=hero Interesting that...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread
Replies: 72
Views: 10311

Re: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread

here it is https://news.delta.com/delta-air-lines-announces-2019-march-quarter-profit March Quarter Financial Highlights • Adjusted earnings per share were $0.96, reflecting a 28 percent increase year over year on solid core performance and benefit from the early renewal of the American Express agre...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread
Replies: 72
Views: 10311

Re: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread

Ishrion wrote:
They're gonna announce ATL-BOM :rotfl:


You clearly don't understand the politics of the whole BOM situation, makes you a clear, undebatable amateur.

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread
Replies: 72
Views: 10311

Re: Delta Air Lines Q1 2019 earning thread

strangeplanes wrote:
Why would they announce new routes or aircraft tomorrow?


Do you have any idea what one particular airline is supposed to announce tomorrow?

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by jumbojet
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success
Replies: 103
Views: 21855

Re: JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success

no, they have no such ambitions. I also don't see any reason for widebodies in the near future unless there is merger with HA. XLR will be able to do every plausible mission they need at this point. You never know, if its a huge success and makes tons of money, then why not? It could be more near t...

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by jumbojet
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success
Replies: 103
Views: 21855

Re: JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success

You could have at least linked the article? sorry, here you go... https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2019/03/02/jetblue-london-announcement/ about half way down, underneath the two pictures... I suppose this could all be a cruel trick from JetBlue, but I doubt it. Rumors of European service ha...

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by jumbojet
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success
Replies: 103
Views: 21855

JetBlue Interested in Widebodies if London is a Success

Mods, feel free to merge with the All Hands thread but I thought this was interesting, a little blurb in a boarding area article that said Blue is interested in widebodies, the A330 or B787 if London is a success. That is very interesting and they obviously must feel success is a lock and that they ...

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by jumbojet
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

This is the most interesting part of the Boarding Area article... I suppose this could all be a cruel trick from JetBlue, but I doubt it. Rumors of European service have been going on too long. One self-identified JetBlue crewmember even emailed me yesterday with the following: Crewmember London bri...

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by jumbojet
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

Has it been mentioned yet in this thread that DL really has no intentions on starting BOS/JFK -LGW N/S service and that they are just sort of messing around with Blue?

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by jumbojet
Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

And the only reason Blues bookings look so good on the BOS-ATL flights for the next few weeks is due to spring break. They simply cant compete against DL's 13 daily flights on this route.

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by jumbojet
Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

I'm not saying DL with retreat, but you said DL would win out in those markets in long run, when there is entirely the possibility that both airlines will stick through. Can you think of any important market B6 has quit on out of BOS in their buildup? . I can. BOS-ATL. Blue went from 5 or 6 daily A...

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by jumbojet
Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

itripreport wrote:
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- Improved Mint Class (Not sure how you could improve an already great product)
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surely you have to be kidding me.

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by jumbojet
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

Except that when NW defended its turf, it was doing it from fortress hubs. DL/VS is not dominating at either LHR/LGW or at JFK/BOS. AA/BA dominates these markets. Can you imagine BA's response if DL/VS really tries to increase their market share here? One or 2 additional flights a day do nothing to...

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by jumbojet
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

If B6 goes to LHR instead of LGW not the biggest blow, but a clear message is sent. DL extra aggressive lately! Taking a page from the NW playbook - NW aggressively defended its turf and would announce routes or dump capacity to drive out competitors and then pull the flight or reduce capacity once...

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by jumbojet
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020
Replies: 158
Views: 18994

Re: Delta and Virgin to launch LGW-JFK and BOS from 2020

Hello JB management, You there? This is why you don’t announce things years before you do it This is why you don’t state your intentions for years and years Without the planes, the certification or the slots to do it See, you guys talk a good game...other airlines play the game you talk... they do ...

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by jumbojet
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Charlotte-Munich: Already Failing?
Replies: 103
Views: 14933

Re: American Airlines Charlotte-Munich: Already Failing?

jfk777 wrote:
J Not everything at AA has to start in DFW.
Yes it does.

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by jumbojet
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Charlotte-Munich: Already Failing?
Replies: 103
Views: 14933

Re: American Airlines Charlotte-Munich: Already Failing?

Anybody who thinks a route is a home run right from the bat is delusional...routes take time to mature. That's a fact you can take to the bank But for how long? Look at how quickly Delta axed SEA-KIX. what are you talking about? its still bookable, into October at least. In fact, if you look at the...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

Umm, not its not. MINT is not eating everyone's lunch. LOL, keep on fantasizing. There is no credible case other than you pay for what you get with MINT. Those D1 flights I take on a regular basis, back n forth between JFK and LAX are always full, and DL is NOT giving away the seats as free upgrade...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

Tphuang has posted fare data on Mint routes for multiple quarters which fully backs this up. Check out the JetBlue network threads (2018 and 2019) for full comparative details. So yeah, he actually has quite a bit to back that up. Do you have anything to backup the notion that it will not “be terri...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

Are they though? Do you actually have anything to back that up? Tphuang has posted fare data on Mint routes for multiple quarters which fully backs this up. Check out the JetBlue network threads (2018 and 2019) for full comparative details. So yeah, he actually has quite a bit to back that up. Do y...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

They also announced mint expansion a year and half before they entered into JFK/BOS-SEA. It's not exactly a secret that they are planning to launch London service around this timeline. What are the competitors going to do that they haven't done already? The biggest limitation to their TATL ambition...

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by jumbojet
Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

At this point, and the more I think about it, I cant think of to many more things more annoying than having tp sit through 4 weeks of a JetBlue 'Save the Date' announcement. If this is only a Europe announcement, what a big letdown. Announce it and get it over with. Its Eastern Europe, not flights t...

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by jumbojet
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines to Modify Project Oasis Planes.
Replies: 213
Views: 40608

Re: Rumor: American Airlines to Modify Project Oasis Planes.

fanoftristars wrote:
Why is everyone so hung up on small bathrooms? You know, at least 50% of my flights I don't even use the bathroom!!! Can you believe it? I honestly couldn't care less.


Is that you Doug Parker?

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by jumbojet
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 971
Views: 136852

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

727200 wrote:
Looks to me like DL route planners back to the dart board for new city destinations...just like before.


Thats a very profitable dart board I am sure ALL other airlines would love to have. That dartboard you speak of makes DL the richest airline in the world.

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by jumbojet
Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 971
Views: 136852

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

Are they going to wait for Pakistan to reopen their airspace to overflights before starting service to India? Been seeing pics of Air India stopping in Vienna as a fuel stop since the air space closure detour began. They are waiting for Pakistan to reopen their airspace before starting service to I...

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by jumbojet
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to start ATL-AMS with A350
Replies: 59
Views: 9399

Re: Delta to start ATL-AMS with A350

Delta has problems if they have to fly A350 to Amsterdam. Those should be Pacific flown airplanes, Delta should have far more routes then their supply of A350 to fly them. United flies to all kinds of Asian cities from Newark but how many Pacific cities does Delta fly from JFK, Zero. How can that b...

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by jumbojet
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 591115

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

I really worry at the pilot is at fault brigade on here. It's already safe when operated properly. What it isn't safe is sending up a critically malfunctioning airplane time after time, and having serious training and CRM questions. Those issues aren't dependent on an airplane to cause dangerous si...

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by jumbojet
Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA and the Philippines will it happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 6782

Re: AA and the Philippines will it happen?

JonNYC is completely overrated and probably the biggest disappointment to hit the road since the Ford pinto A little harsh would you say? At any rate, I agree with most others and I believe JonNYC is way off base with this one. To low yielding a route for AA to even consider. AA doesnt gamble like ...

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by jumbojet
Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B6 Situation
Replies: 143
Views: 19327

Re: B6 Situation

I So, again they aren't in a death spiral, they just need a strategy change to take them to the next level. Their options are: 1) Expand to Europe which will propel growth for probably 4-5 years. 2) Merge with Alaska and fix the breadth of product problem they both have. 3) Do like F9 did and switc...

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by jumbojet
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: Jetblue Announces Flights to London from JFK and BOS from 2021
Replies: 947
Views: 139717

Re: Jetblue “Save the Date” All Hands - April 10

TheLunchbox wrote:
No, please do tell.


UA acquires Blue. On routes that would give them a large share of the market, they get divided amongst the remainder of the US carriers.

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by jumbojet
Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 704760

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

Who Says The Boeing 737 MAX Is Safe? The U.S. Pilots Who Fly It Three U.S. carriers – American, Southwest and United – continue to fly the 737 MAX, 72 planes in all. Now their pilot unions, which generally speak independently of the carriers, are saying publicly that they believe the plane is safe ...

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by jumbojet
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 709267

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I have a question regarding MCAS. If I understand correctly, MCAS was added, because the new design (old airframe + extension + larger engines with higher bypass ratio) has different aerodynamics. Boeing wanted 737-certified pilot to fly737MAX airplanes (as there are many many certified 737 pilots ...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 709267

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

From Reuters: "Half a dozen witnesses interviewed by Reuters in the farmland where the plane came down reported smoke billowing out behind, while four of them also described a loud sound. 'It was a loud rattling sound. Like straining and shaking metal,' said Turn Buzuna, a 26-year-old housewif...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska, JetBlue Lower Q1 RASM Outlook on Transcon Fare War
Replies: 25
Views: 4014

Re: Alaska, JetBlue Lower Q1 RASM Outlook on Transcon Fare War

I Would be interesting to see if this gets better later this year. Seems like AS's biggest issue with Q2/3 is WN' entrance into HI. Some economists are predicting another recession. Last one was 2007-ish and before that 2000-ish. The last thing anybody needs now is a recession obviously, but I thin...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article
Replies: 36
Views: 4648

Re: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article

Old news... https://skift.com/2018/09/28/delta-ceo-declares-free-in-flight-wi-fi-is-coming/ it is old news, by 6 months. And if you read my initial post, you would see where I put that Bastian previously said there was no time frame for the implementation of free WIFI. Now, we have something more c...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article
Replies: 36
Views: 4648

Re: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article

What's stopping them now is not dollars, it's bandwidth. Once it's free and everyone uses it, it needs to have much broader bandwidth. It is being improved now in preparation for the free service. B6 has had free, fast WiFi for years. The technology has long been there. Only thing stopping airlines...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article
Replies: 36
Views: 4648

Re: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article

That's not a confirmation. That's a confirmation of a maybe, one that was already stated before. There's nothing stopping DL from implementing free WiFi right now except $$$. Within a year to two years might not be a confirmation but its definitely a commitment. More than what your getting from UA/...

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by jumbojet
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article
Replies: 36
Views: 4648

Delta Air Lines to Add Free WIFI - EB Confirms in Barron's Article

Ed Bastian confirms in the Barron's Article that free WIFI will be available on all Delta flights. Delta, which viewed as the best managed major U.S. airline, also plans on spending 4.5 billion on CAPEX this year, mostly for new airplanes. Delta Air Lines is spending billions to upgrade its terminal...

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