Re: Eastern Air Lines — 757 Cheat Line

This thread encapsulates the birth of the awe of civil aviation for me starting at 7 years old, when Eastern was my favorite and the cheatlines filled my head with utmost interest. But never knew Eastern took off the "757" and it looks like their old DC-8 tails or Convairs ( whichever one...

Re: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United

Kirby/United had plenty of chance to buy Airbus planes. But they ended buying 20*77W, 150*787 and 350*737max. Now they want the A321NEO fast. When Kirby went to Toulouse he said he was of course ready to pay a prenium for them. But apparently not that much .... United looks cheap. And they are goin...

Re: Spirit Aerosystems surges on report that Boeing could buy it back

Doesn’t spirit make things for Airbus as well? They could just sell off the division that works on the Boeing side of the house to Boeing. Or if Boeing purchased the entire company spin off the Airbus and related companies as a separate venture. I think bringing work in house would only help Boeing...

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

I never dreamed that my post would be garnering the number of comments that it has. I am still somewhat disappointed however, that the point of my post has somehow been lost. There have been an extraordinary number of posts about the potential development of a 73 replacement and a possible reintrod...

Re: Medical Emergencies

Who pays for the diversion? It's a costly event - do airlines account for this as part of opex? If a passenger is unruly and a flight is diverted I've read sometimes where the story will say the passenger is being charged X amount. I would never want cost to impede a medical emergency, just curious.

Re: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United

Reshuffling happens all the time. Some customers want to defer airplanes and pay a premium for that, while other customers wish to accelerate. Sure. But, do you think it logical that Kirby would fly transatlantic to visit Airbus in Toulouse just to swap a few delivery slots around? I suspect there'...

Re: What was the largest airline operation to go bankrupt?

DocLightning wrote:

How can GOL be in Chapter 11? Chapter 11 is a US thing, right?

Re: United Airlines Fleet Discussion - 2024

I don’t think United needs to publicly negotiate with Boeing. I’m sure Dave Calhoun and anyone else at Boeing drops what they’re doing to talk to a UAL leader. I think this is more about pressuring the FAA. Interesting take regarding the FAA. Plausible. Very interesting POV, one that brings more po...

Re: Boeing’s Troubles

From a Leheem News Article- “Unplanned” removal, installation inspection procedure at Boeing, comments section, therefore, cannot be verified. throwawayboeingN704AL- (16/01/2024) https://leehamnews.com/2024/01/15/unplanned-removal-installation-inspection-procedure-at-boeing/#comment-509962 'Current...

Re: Boeing 777 Production / Deliveries - 2024

Because Boeing needs to fill production slots and there are not enough 777F orders to fill all the slots. Many 777-9 have already been produced. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53308577749_9a25bc7ebb.jpg Boeing 777X by Scott McGeachy , on Flickr I don't think this is an accurate representation ...

Re: Why is Virgin Atlantic operating both the 789 and the A339?

Delta.

At least I remember reading those rumors when the 339 order was announced.

Re: Dubai Airshow 2023

Agreed. And as mentioned, availability. Many airlines have been converting A320/1neo options into orders lately (Easyjet, Korean for example). So the 737MAX would be most likely. Regarding availability, too many people seem to focus only on the backlog, however there is other side of the equation, ...

Re: China apparently removes Russia from the C929 project

Could be the 'strategic' move by Xi in preparation of attending the anticipated meeting with Biden in California. Afterall, China might have got the technology already. It is a matter of time for C929 team to learn all the key 'know hows' and move on. Not that any of us would know, so pure speculat...

Re: Another Cockpit Threat: FO threatens CA with gun over diversion

I’m not a pilot so I’m hoping someone can fill me in on which part of CRM threatening your colleague with death over a medical diversion comes from. Another win for the FFDO program, which has saved approximately zero lives but has a growing list of incidents... I agree with this. The FFDO program ...

Re: Why didn't Delta Air Lines using retro aircraft livery paint?

Delta doesn’t like to blow money on things they don’t believe adds value, and I’d imagine they don’t see value in nostalgia for the brands of companies they’ve acquired over the years. That, and there are still a lot of people from prior to the last merger that identify as PMDL and PMNW camps, and ...

Re: Korean Air donates 747 to Los Angeles museum

That's pretty cool to see it donated to the museum and not scrapped!

Re: AF/KL Shopping for 50+ Widebodies

Airlines don't operate in a vacuum of mindlessly placing orders for Boeing 787s! There are both economic and political aspects to consider - even if the politicians aren't actively pressing, choosing a competitor's plane when the airline is operating in the country where one of the options is made ...

Re: Spirit Aero Systems Claims A and B contracts "unsustainable"

It's a tricky situation. On the one hand, Spirit made poor business decisions with the contracts with no room for rising costs at the rates we've seen. Not that inflation/labor costs are easy metrics to forecast but it appears (on the surface at least) they didn't build much buffer. Then, on the oth...

Re: Pratt & Whitney GTF engine issues; many aircraft grounded

"CFM LEAP and GEnx also affected by powder metal contamination" Most of this is hidden behind a paywall https://airinsight.com/cfm-leap-and-genx-also-affected-by-powder-metal-contamination/ Well, that's an interesting twist in the story. Up thread there was talk of how the issue was conta...

Re: Airbus and Boeing Orders - 2023

With airlines ordering up to 10 years ahead it will get to a point where a lot fewer orders are made for a while I agree. This will be correct if production rates exceed demand and backlogs are shortened sufficiently. And it will be interesting to see how many actually get fulfilled. Some of these ...

Re: Can Airbus Increase Its Widebody Market Share?

One final take on your OP. Did you actually read the whole of the Forbes article that you linked? It clearly demonstrates a huge bias towards Boeing in everything that is written in it, from an author who is a key figure in an institute predominantly funded by US Defence industry If I can quote... ...

Re: Boeing 717 freighter; could it happen?

Interesting thought but one of the biggest roadblocks still remains...parts availability. The long term volume still won't be there for suppliers to invest in manufacturing spares.

Re: Paris Air Show discussion thread

It is interesting to see the supply chain described as "suffering"! For most businesses, the prospect of an increasing order book is a nice problem to have, and one that either justifies investment in additional production facilities or encourages new entrants to the market. Thee are some...

Re: Turkish Airlines to order 600 aircraft in June

Fantastic news for both Airbus and Boeing (and TK of course!). 2023 is turning out to be a banner year for both OEMs.

Now if people would just read the thread before posting we wouldn't have to go in circle after circle after circle about the 777X.

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2023

I'd like to see the 787 at DL but the flyer in me prefers 2-4-2 over 3-3-3 any day of the week.

Re: Rolls Royce CEO paints a bleak picture and Airbus rules nothing out

william wrote:

https://www.ft.com/content/2518eba3-b1f2-47dd-8fc6-744678d01f88

Rolls-Royce boss forced to defend ‘burning platform’ comment at AGM

Re: Airbus and Boeing Deliveries - 2023

What's the story with the A350? Is Airbus claiming supplier (e.g. supply chain) issues? Or did I miss some other announcement as to the low output?

Re: New Thai carrier “Really Cool Airlines”

Ziyulu wrote:

Why does the color of the tail matter? What is the significance of white tail?

Re: New Thai carrier “Really Cool Airlines”

It’s run by the same man who led Nok Air into bankruptcy… Seems to be a recreation of NokScoot but with a less low-cost product. I’ve heard they’re eyeing 777s. Didn't one of the the articles say they were wanting 4 x A350 by the end of the year? I also read articels mentioning the A350. Interestin...

Re: Updated: Japan Airlines orders 737 MAX

Still "according to industry sources" but the tea leaves definitely seem to be in alignment!

When announced on Thursday, per the above Yahoo!Finance link, congrats to both involved!

Re: New Thai carrier “Really Cool Airlines”

It’s run by the same man who led Nok Air into bankruptcy… Guess airline execs like to live by the saying of Don't give up. :roll: I know you're not supposed to let failure stand in your way but it seems like the airline business is just rife with one example after another of a failed CEO thinking t...

Re: Why is the 737 fuselage built in Wichita?

Too many people look at todays facilities and go why??? IN the 1960's when I started work, Boeing built most of its components from shims on up at its various facilities. The 4-21 building held 707 and 727 FAL in about 1/3 of the building. the rest was manufacturing and assembly, we had casting and...

Re: 747 Final Flyaway

I pointedly try not to post personal info on here, but now that this day has arrived I have to say - my dad was one of those 'Incredibles.' Not an engineer, but a Machinist who helped build the first 747. He can still remember the days of building that first aircraft, as the building itself was lit...

Re: Boeing adding 737 line in Everett

Nice to see some positive news come out of Boeing for a change! Guess we'll have to wait for more official details such as when, expected rate, how the supply chain will support, etc. Could this also be an area for the time being for 737 fixes to clear out the backlog (as long as they have the skill...

Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

Not sure what to make of this... WASHINGTON, Dec 6 (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers late on Tuesday declined to add an extension to an annual defense bill of a looming deadline that would impose a new safety standard for modern cockpit alerts for two new versions of Boeing's best-selling 737 MAX aircraft...

Re: Southwest Flight Diverts to Little Rock after mid-flight assault

Raising fares won't solve anything and is counter to what aviation is about - transportation for all, shrinking the world so we can all see and experience other cultures (or just see our families). Either way, taking an elite POV here says more about the person proposing it than a solution to the pr...

Re: Bringing an A340-600 back to life.

If you're in the US you'll need a VPN to access. I picked France and it worked.

Re: DL proactively trimming schedules July 1 - August 7

Delta had planned on the pandemic to be a protracted recovery. Everyone did; it's not an excuse for overscheduling your resources. Certain other airlines (like AS and B6) are also doing it, and we're currently seeing the results of that now with big frequency pulldowns and route cuts. AA and UA see...

Re: DL proactively trimming schedules July 1 - August 7

More than 160 cancellations so far today and it is not even noon. Also, more than 230 flights delayed so far. Endeavor at around 140 cancellations so far. Arrived at A17 (ATL) last night around midnight and the line for rebooking stretched several gates down from the customer service desk. If I had...

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022

FiscAutTecGarte wrote:

Would they wait until Farnbourgh in Mid July to firm such an order?

Re: Air Canada ordering A321-LR?