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by Richard28
Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

To get to that option another referendum would have to be held Yes, which is exactly what The Peoples Vote campaign is asking for. at present, the peoples representatives are only voting on whether the deal that the government proposes is acceptable to the parliament. So far it looks as if they are...

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Those are indeed separate issue's. I think a realistic scenario would be: accept the outcome of the negotiations or the alternative: the Madagascar scenario: WTO rules only. That is of course assuming that there is an outcome to the negotiations that is acceptable to the EU (current chequers propos...

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Just want a final say based upon known facts and consequences, rather than the lies and inaccuracies of 2016.

If people then accept Brexit based on facts then fine. To date that has not been possible.

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

100% pure fact. as usual disproved by evidence http://static4.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5ae5a9b37708e959f671c1d0-1790/brexit%20opinion%20polls%202018.png But if you want more proof, then lets have a peoples vote / final say referendum! (most people incidentally now want this as well!!)

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Our economy is clearly strong and is beginning to work for the people of Britain. :checkmark: All this whilst being a member of the European Union And where is this mass exodus of companies leaving? It would be happening by now.... In case you missed it: we've gone through this many times.... curre...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Arion640 wrote:

Our economy is clearly strong and is beginning to work for the people of Britain.


:checkmark: All this whilst being a member of the European Union

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

I thought we were expecting a crash the day after we voted leave? Sterling did crash the day after the Brexit referendum Stock markets went up through a negative correlation to the underlying currency, as foreign earnings increased. Companies also still have access to the single market etc for the ...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:28 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

UK Unemployment falls to a record low of recent times. #despitebrexit we've gone through this many times.... current economic conditions give single market access, no customs union (inc 65+ trade deals) and devalued currency which is good for exports. The pain of Brexit has not in any way been felt...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

And Brexit is a massive change to this network of mechanisms, and so far all signs point to a lot more detrimental effects than beneficial ones, to a net negative total for the UK and to the EU with the far worse per-capita impact to the UK. And of course the UK government has done much financial m...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

The IR rise is to control the inflation.... Indeed it is, hence further post Brexit inflationary pressures such as shortage of Labour supply, import tariffs and further devaluation of the pound will not be good news and could lead to further rate rises. Especially bad for those on the ‘breadline’, ...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Looking forward to seeing families on the breadline getting a wages boost from the wage correction. Brilliant news. Interest rate rise also, the benefits of brexit are playing out and we haven’t even left yet. I cannot wait. People on the "breadline" don't have much in the way of savings ...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Much like Richard, who in the past has completely ignored my concerns about mass immigration and what the CAP has done to the farming industry. I have not ignored your concerns, I just clearly disagree with most of them. I also always deliver when I promise an answer, and do my best to back up my p...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Btw.. did you ever get the easy plan for the NI/RoI border from him? best regards Thomas No, I never received the promised answer from him Thomas. I also asked him to back up his previous assertion that the EU has"ignored referendums". But he has been unable to give me even one example th...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Finally, the correction has begun: https://news.sky.com/story/amp/firms-in-brexit-supply-shock-as-eu-workers-stay-away-11471461?__twitter_impression=true And you'll see "the correction" in your food bill when you go shopping or eat out. :sarcastic: In the event of a no Deal, in addition t...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Finally, the correction has begun: Indeed it has. Latest poll shows that more than 100 constituencies that voted Leave in 2016 would now back Remain, including many in Northern England, giving increased pressure for Labour to support the right to a final say. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic...

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by Richard28
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

As I've mentioned before my personal opinion is that a "No Deal" is not Theresa May's endgame.. but we'll see. So in over two years has she presented any plan that is in any way even open for negotiations with the EU, I am not saying acceptable but has the TM government produced any plan ...

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by Richard28
Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Yet another opinion poll shows peoples minds have changed on Brexit. A Yougov poll finds that: 53% now support remaining in the EU 45% (11% majority) now want to have a final say on any deal Momentum for a final say continues to build.... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/politics/722402/brexit-news...

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Yet another opinion poll shows peoples minds have changed on Brexit. A Yougov poll finds that: 53% now support remaining in the EU 45% (11% majority) now want to have a final say on any deal Momentum for a final say continues to build.... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/politics/722402/brexit-news-...

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45130532
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Arion640 wrote:

You referred to him as the foreign secretary, which the person in question is not.


He may not be a Conservative party member much longer either.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45130532

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

There is a reason Gibraltar voted 96% to remain in the EU. It helps Gibraltar to have good relations with its neighbour and not to put up borders and be regarded as a third country. Heck it would help the UK too.

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:44 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

JJJ wrote:
I can really see why they kept saying Brexit wouldn't have any downsides, they just forgot to add "for us toffs" right after that.


indeed, another millionaire Leaver hypocrite to add to the pile.

another case of "I'm alright Jack"

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

It’s more the double standard. They are leaving something as they think they have no democratic voice (which we of course do have) through elected MEPs - and we did of course vote to join the EEC back in the day. The alternative that they are pursuing is one we have not voted to join and have no dem...

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:57 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Some questions from James O'Briens radio show for our Brexit friends, as Brexit is apparently all about accountability, democracy and transparency.... - Who elected the people who run the WTO? - When did we vote to join the WTO? I await your answers and explanations.... :rotfl: https://www.lbc.co.uk...

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

seahawk wrote:
And after March2019 companies can even get help moving production and jobs from the UK to the EU.


It’s ironic isn’t it, that the very thing Brexiters wrongly asserted In the referendum, will become possible legal and endorsed by the European Union post Brexit.

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:54 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

seahawk wrote:
And after March2019 companies can even get help moving production and jobs from the UK to the EU.


It’s ironic isn’t it, that the very thing Brexiters wrongly asserted In the referendum, will become possible legal and endorsed by the European Union post Brexit.

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

I thought the EU didn’t need the UK? Looks like it’s dawning on the remainiacs the EU does need the UK after all, otherwise its citizens will be at risk. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2018/aug/07/eu-patients-may-miss-out-on-medicines-in-no-deal-brexit-says-astrazeneca ...

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by Richard28
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.expr ... -Trump/amp


No news here. Brexit is bad for the EU as it is for the UK, and EU regret the decision.

Same story for two years now.
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Arion640 wrote:


No news here. Brexit is bad for the EU as it is for the UK, and EU regret the decision.

Same story for two years now.

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

BA will paint the British flag on the A350 winglets when they arrive. I’m glad they are feeling patriotic with brexit looming . It’s time to take back control. Loom verb 1) appear as a vague form, especially one that is large or threatening. 2) (of an event regarded as threatening) seem about to ha...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Arion640 wrote:
The UK is already a WTO member.


Indeed we are, but we are talking about WTO schedules here, not membership. All schedules have to be negotiated and agreed with every WTO member.

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:40 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

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It won't take the UK anywhere near that long because we'll just wave our nice blue passports at them and they'll all be happy to welcome us with open arms! :wink2: yep! welcome to Commonwealth 2.0! wait a minute, New Zealand have rejected our WTO schedules? that's not on the Commonwealth 2.0 script...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Here's a sobering fact for those wanting a WTO / No-Deal Brexit. Do you know how long it took Russia to negotiate its schedules with the WTO and get granted entry? Answer: 18 years. You need consent form every WTO member. Wow. Let that sink in. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16212643 Objections...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Will be completely temporary. We will welcome Canadian/Australian/African produce with open arms. Food decomposes... so for this transportation of much produce will need to be by plane, which costs more money, or by boat which takes many days.... You also assume that there is surplus product in the...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Ok mate. Just because there’s 3 clowns in a minority, you tar them with the same brush. No, I neither said or implied this. Do you think the same of all muslims because of what happened on 9/11? to quote your own words Arion640: Is this relevant to this thread? :spin: I find it hilarious how you th...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Still want a no deal, but want to continue to eat a healthy varied diet? Here's some interesting figures on UK exports and imports of different food products - it shows how reliant we are for imports and how the UK is in no way self sufficient for food: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/188ee760d26e383...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

That's not how it works. We had the vote and the vote was to leave. We are leaving the EU. It's that's simply. but leave to what? It has never been defined. A no-deal means no EU flights, food shortages, medicine shortages, police concerns about safety, zero trade deals, customs delays, lost jobs, ...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:17 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Oh how I enjoy younlot giddily posting that brexit can be stopped and that we will just continue with the status quo. The status quo was an option on 23/6/16 and that was resoundingly rejected by the electorate. The engineering and collusion of the remainers and the EU to simply get us to stay won'...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Is this relevant to this thread? Just as relevant as your post about the appalling vandalism to Jacob Rees-Mogg's house is it not? double standards Arion640? Sad. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... t-45082053 The sort of stuff the remain ultras would have a good laugh at. That the Pro Brex...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

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Three members of UKIP have been involved in the storming of an independent book store, where they chanted fascist songs, tore up books and threatened staff, whilst wearing masks (one of Donald Trump apparently) The three were linked to "Make Britain Great Again" - a contradiction if ever t...

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by Richard28
Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:32 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
Replies: 1127
Views: 19468

Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

My understanding is that UK already triggered certain EU article that cannot go back unless other EU members agree? With everyone's agreement Article 50 can be extended With everyone's agreement Article 50 can be revoked before March 2019 It may also be possible for the UK to unilaterally withdraw ...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Sad. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-somerset-45082053 The sort of stuff the remain ultras would have a good laugh at. No one laughs and vandalism, its horrible. We can laugh at Rees-Mogg though, this is him on holiday in New York on top tof the Empire State Buildin...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Quick Richard, ring Easyjet up to tell them before it’s too late!! Richard, also we need a solution from you on Britains over population. I'm sure easyJet are on this, remember they have already set up an Austrian airline at great cost because of Brexit, so they are on it (more needless Brexit Bure...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

Well even if the flight don't stop, the planes aren't grounded etc, people won't be able to travel as they will be '£4200 worse off', that unemployment would be sky high, there 'will be an emergency budget' we will be in a 'year long recession' and we will 'need visas' and 'have to pay to go to the...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

easyJet have announced recruitment for next year offering 1200 cabin crew jobs. Despite knowing that 'the flights will stop', 'planes will be grounded' and despite knowing about mass unemployment, recession and house price crashed (which is a good thing according to a.net) easyJet are adding 600 ne...

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by Richard28
Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

What have Jacob Rees-Mogg, David Davis John Redwood and the "peoples vote" all got in common? It turns out all three of the above Brexiters have at various points prior to 2016 endorsed a strategy of a double referendum, with the people given a final vote on the deal once it has been negot...

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

It’s from the guardian. Say no more. No, its from Thiemo Fetzer, associate professor in economics at Warwick university, just reported by the Guardian. Perhaps you would like to comment on the contents rather than than the messenger? .... or perhaps you think you know more than this professor , jus...

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:11 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

More scaremongering Richard :roll: So you think leaving the single market and customs union, including 65+ trade deals will have zero negative effects on our economy? wow, and I thought you worked in financial services? Even sevenair seems to agrees with this, at least in the short term: I foresee ...

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by Richard28
Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:50 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge
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Re: Brexit Phase 3: an enthusiastic jump from the cliff-edge

More scaremongering Richard :roll: So you think leaving the single market and customs union, including 65+ trade deals will have zero negative effects on our economy? wow, and I thought you worked in financial services? Even sevenair seems to agrees with this, at least in the short term: I foresee ...

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