Fly2HMO From United States, joined Jan 2004, 2276 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1095 times:
Let me rephrase the title:
I wanted to know if a 744 would take off from HMO, which has a 7546x148 ft rwy. (suitable for ldg/tkf in all its extent), an elevation of 646 ft, and at 42 deg. Celsius. AND at MTOW with no wind.
So, what do you say?
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SSTjumbo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1058 times:
That's suicide if you ask me. I think the biggest you could use in such conditions is a 757, and that's thanks to it being overpowered. I doubt you could get a 737-400 off such a runway in such conditions even. It very well could be possible, but I wouldn't try it.
Fly2HMO From United States, joined Jan 2004, 2276 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1058 times:
The only aircraft that I've seen here that struggle in those conditions are 727s, but 767s and DC10s have flown out of here too ocassionally. And obviously MX's 752 liftoff just after mid-rwy.
I suppose somebody here has the numbers for calculating this specifically for the 747.
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QantasA332 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1500 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1030 times:
There's no way a 744 at MTOW could make it out of HMO. I don't have the exact figures for the conditions you described, but even for a temperature of around 15° C and a density altitude of 0, a fully-loaded 744 needs upwards of about 10,000 feet of runway!
Fly2HMO From United States, joined Jan 2004, 2276 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 976 times:
Yeah, I thought so.
I asked because I tried this several times in FSim and I could manage to takeoff, of course after almost suffering a tailscrape, using full flaps and with the brakes on while the engines spooled up.
But,as some of you Fsim haters might say, " It's just a game"
Back to the subject, how about 50% MTOW at 25ºC?
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Imonti From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 767 times:
Flaps will get a plane airborn sooner but it wont necesarilly make its rate of climb than a plane that hasnt used flaps, so possibly yes it can with those conditions, if full flaps are used.
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BryanG From United States, joined May 1999, 378 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 649 times:
Guys,
Boeing has been kind enough to put all the takeoff and landing performance data for all its planes (and the old MD ones) on the web. The charts have been there for years, but they're VERY hard to find unless you're a hard core web surfer.
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