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What's Up With This DC-3 Nose?  
User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Looking at this DC-3 I noticed the nose.

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There is a hole in it. But it does not look like a landing light, and I'm pretty sure that it is not the nuzzle of a machine gun.
If anyone of you knows what the hole is for I would be pleased to hear about it. Thanks in advance.

Yours in realtime
JHSfan


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From United States, joined Jun 1999, 12725 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Looks like an air scoop of some kind, for cooling air perhaps?


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States, joined Nov 2003, 9994 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

I've seen that nose before. Not sure but it might be the intake for the Janitrol or similar combustion heater system. (Google Rick Nelson)

That also appears to be a "super three." Check out the landing gear doors. Those might also be R-2000 engines. Any of you old round-engine guys know for sure?

[Edited 2005-03-03 15:41:26]


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 26086 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Def looks like a Cooling Ram Air Inlet,But I wonder where the Aft end leads to,Inside the Cockpit maybe.   
regds
MEL


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User currently offline411A From United States, joined Nov 2001, 1541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Super R4D-8....super DC3.
Curtis Wright R1820 geared engines, single speed blower, 1475HP.
Approximately 15 knots faster than a standard DC3.

Port in the nose?
Air inlet for a Southwind combuston heater/blower.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States, joined Jul 1999, 6734 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

I'm not a fan of the tail of the super 3. She loses some of her elegant lines with it...


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 26086 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Quoting 411A (reply 4):
ir inlet for a Southwind combuston heater/blower.


Any sketch of the Internal routing or a pictoral view.
regds
MEL


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User currently offline411A From United States, joined Nov 2001, 1541 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Sorry, no can do, Hawk21M, these were all left overseas many years ago, where I was flying these machines.
Southwind was the preferred heater installation, altho Stewart-Warner models worked just as well.
These heaters were quite effective, and routed most of the heated air to the cockpit, as nearly all of these aircraft were freighters....in civil operation.

User currently offlineJHSfan From Denmark, joined Apr 2004, 469 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

Thanks a lot for the info fellow A.netters Smile

Based on your replies I have done a little search and found 2 more DC-3 with the same inlet:
# 1 & #2

BTW: For those of you who read this, I found a little DC-3 JATO footage (!) during my search. Look on Douglas Aircraft - C-47 / R4D / C-117 - Skytrain / Dakota / Gooney Bird. The link is half way down the page.
I had a little trouble viewing it when I tried with Windows Media Player, but with QuickTime Player I had no problems.

- JHSfan


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28158 posts, RR: 70
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1255 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
I'm not a fan of the tail of the super 3. She loses some of her elegant lines with it...


Agreed, Trans-Northern Aviation has two of them in Anchorage.


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User currently offlineBuzz From United States, joined Nov 1999, 691 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

Hi JHSfan, Buzz here. Many DC-3's have a cabin vent air inlet there, N136PB /NC18121 does. When i started reading the EAL manuals on that DC-3 when it mentioned a "nose valve".
The nose valve shuts off the ram air... and 36PB had a combustion heater installed... we removed it.
Notice that that DC-3 has the Wright Engine speed cowls and gear doors, and smooth nose. Somebody wants to go faster.
g'day

User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28158 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

Quoting Buzz (Reply 10):
Somebody wants to go faster.

In a DC-3....isn't that a contradiction in terms.


Still, there aren't many aircraft around that are less expensive and can still lift 7000 pounds.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 26086 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

What Ever the DC3 was a good Aircraft.I remember till a few years ago.AIRWORKS [A Mx Organisation] at Mumbai [Bombay] used to fly them & it used to attract a lot of attention especially the T/O.
regds
MEL


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