BDL From United States, joined Aug 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11910 times:
With all the talk surrounding fuel prices and the cost of a barrel of oil (closing at $126.29 on Friday), I was wondering how much money it actually costs an airline to fully fuel a 747? If there is any other info on other airliners, I would love to find out.
Jetblueguy22 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 579 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11919 times:
I checked it out and with Jet A at $7.99 a gallon. That would equal about $457,707.15 USD. That is to fully fuel a 747-400.
Blue
P.S. That is an old fuel price. I would believe it would be much higher now.
BDL From United States, joined Aug 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11886 times:
No wonder everyone, particularly US airlines, is "bleeding $." I'm guessing a 737 costs a little more than half of that, so that is a heck of a lot of fuel that they're using. What's a plane's MPG?
UAL727NE From United States, joined Dec 2007, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11850 times:
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 1): I checked it out and with Jet A at $7.99 a gallon. That would equal about $457,707.15 USD. That is to fully fuel a 747-400.
Blue
P.S. That is an old fuel price. I would believe it would be much higher now.
WOW!!!! 7.99? Where you getting fuel from? At my FBO JETA is 5.39. At full retail price it would cost308,766.15 but airlines get an even bigger discount. So not even that much.
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Point8six From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 58 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11819 times:
Max. tanks for a B747-400 is approx. 175tonnes (approx. because of variations with SG). What it would cost would depend on whether or not the airline has "hedged" it's fuel and which airport it uplifted the fuel. Obviously at the present moment, it would be difficult to give a figure as it might have increased since you posted! Perhaps someone can give you a "ball park figure" -I just sign for it!
The real question is " if supplies are more than adequate for the next 50 years" (Saudi oil official), why are we being screwed on price?
Jetblueguy22 From United States, joined Nov 2007, 579 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11795 times:
I got that from airnav.com. The airport I have is MSP and the company is Signature Flight Support. It says it is from April 21, 2008. It is for JET A.
I checked out others: (JET A)
JFK 7.18 as of April 20
BDL 7.00 as of MAy 14
LGA 8.12 as of May 16
EWR 8.27 as of May 13.
Remember this isn't what the airlines are paying its just market price.
Blue
Airbatica From United States, joined Apr 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 11798 times:
Jetblueguy, where on earth did you find that price for Jet-A? That's way out of line with current market prices, although it might cost that much at your local FBO after you factor in all the additional costs.
UAL727NE From United States, joined Dec 2007, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11719 times:
WOW I cant believe the price of fuel at other FBO's! With the price at my FBO every jet in the country should be stopping here. But then again my boss doesnt want to spend the money to abvertise....IDIOT!!!!
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Airbatica From United States, joined Apr 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11707 times:
Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 8): I got it from airnav.com. I am just putting down what they are saying.
Yeah, I must have been replying while you were responding.
Just as a point of reference, I just put 3361USG on a 737 going DFW-SEA. At $3.78 a gallon, it would be $12704.58, and at $7.99, it would be $26854.39. The flight arrived with 7,200lbs, and required 29,700lbs for the trip. The flight went out with 7 open seats.
UAL727NE From United States, joined Dec 2007, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11665 times:
I doubt it. He has alot of money and charters out jets as well. But he still dont want to. The last prson that owned this place only made .40 a gal. and this airport was packed 24/7. He is making 1.20 a gal. If he would lower that to even .50 a gal. profit and ab. He would be Making alot more money and making us lineguys happy cuz we would be getting paid to work. Instead he pays us to be really really bored.
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TristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2040 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11574 times:
According to Air transport world, www.atwonline.com
the price for Jet A1 in the market was around 3.30 USD at end of March.
They publish a graph of jet fuel price every month.
This is the spot cash price.
Airlines have contracts and will pay less.
Flighty From United States, joined Apr 2007, 2485 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 11513 times:
Yeah, I do not believe anybody would pay $8 for fuel. The going rate is $3 and change. So, if it cost $8, you could drive a truck from an airport and make $5 per gallon profit, or say $30,000 profit on a 5,000 gal truck for a day's work.
This is a long way of saying no, Jet-A does NOT cost $8 a gallon, and if somebody says so, they are wrong, so we don't need to hear about it.
Filling a 747 with 50,000 gallons of Jet-A (almost full) would cost around $150,000-$200,000 at current world prices. This is an extremely close to accurate figure. It will not be $450,000. That would be ludicrous.
Boston92 From United States, joined Aug 2006, 3045 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 11443 times:
Quoting Flighty (Reply 16): Yeah, I do not believe anybody would pay $8 for fuel.
Plenty of people do. That is how much it costs here in SBA, and I see plenty of corprate jets filling up at that price. That IS how much it costs at larger more executive airports.
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Hmmmm... From Canada, joined May 1999, 2058 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 11135 times:
Quote: Take the price per barrel, and divide it by 42 to get price per gallon (42 gallons in a barrel of oil).
Roughly $3.78 a gallon (assuming my math is right).
I'm too lazy to do any additional math ATM. Smile
Yeah, but airplanes don't fly on barrels of crude oil. They fly on jet fuel that comes out of a pump and hose. I think you missed a few steps in your jet fuel calculation.
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United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1135 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 11119 times:
Quoting Hmmmm... (Reply 18): Yeah, but airplanes don't fly on barrels of crude oil. They fly on jet fuel that comes out of a pump and hose. I think you missed a few steps in your jet fuel calculation.
Hes not that far off actually in figuring out what the airlines would pay for fuel. For example 1st quarter UA paid on average 3.03 a gallon for jet-A.
United1 From United States, joined Oct 2003, 1135 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 11094 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 19): Hes not that far off actually in figuring out what the airlines would pay for fuel. For example 1st quarter UA paid on average 3.03 a gallon for jet-A.
Actually I read the wrong line UA paid 2.84 a gallon on average, UAX paid 3.03 a gallon on average, and for whatever reason the site won't let me edit my post.
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