MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 723 posts, RR: 9 Posted (9 months 1 day ago) and read 12700 times:
Egyptair is considering renewing some of its short to medium haul fleet , The renewal includes 7 of the Airline's 12 A320's , 4 A321's and 4 B735's .
The A320's and the B735's were delivered brand new to the Airline in the early 90's , while the A321 were delivered in 96/97 . The Airline hasn't placed any orders and hasn't even considered what type of A/C will be ordered . "It all depends on availability and deals from the manufacturers" the Chairman was quoted saying .
Efforts are still being made to meet the requirements for Star Alliance membership and are nearing conclusion . The joining ceremony is planned in Cairo in July 08 .
The Airline is also planning a brand new livery , the Chairman was quoted saying : " We are in the process to present our new brand very soon on one of our aircraft. No later than May we will show our new colors ". He added : " The brand will reflect the "spirit of Egypt" and the carrier's effort to make Cairo the principal gateway to Africa and points in the Middle East ". He pointed that changing the livery was necessary to present Egyptair as a new quality carrier .
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 723 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (9 months 6 hours ago) and read 12134 times:
Quoting ElmoTheHobo (Reply 2): Egyptair also flies 737-800s, 4 delivered with 8 more on the way. They are probably going to keep moving in that direction.
Historically , Egyptair is known to divide its orders between Airbus and Boeing . I can see this trend continuing , especially that most of the A/C that are due for renewal are Buses .
SXDFC From United States, joined Dec 2007, 874 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (9 months 6 hours ago) and read 12071 times:
Heres something to think about
what if MS gets the 737-600-
737-666?
Wouldn't the 736 be a good replacement for the 735 though? I mean its pretty much the same frame, unless they want to go for the 318, because they already have 73NG pilots.
MIAMIx707 From Cuba, joined Oct 2003, 4619 posts, RR: 31 Reply 5, posted (9 months 5 hours ago) and read 11979 times:
Quoting MSYYZ (Thread starter): The Airline is also planning a brand new livery , the Chairman was quoted saying : " We are in the process to present our new brand very soon on one of our aircraft. No later than May we will show our new colors ". He added : " The brand will reflect the "spirit of Egypt" and the carrier's effort to make Cairo the principal gateway to Africa and points in the Middle East ". He pointed that changing the livery was necessary to present Egyptair as a new quality carrier .
Good. Hopefully the sh***ty white-plane blue-tail will be history.
These elegant colors should have NEVER!!!!!!!! been changed
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 5769 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (9 months 4 hours ago) and read 11957 times:
Its easy to come up with a better livery than the cheap and awful current blue-tail design.
Thank god it lasted just for a decade. I agree that the earthen red and gold livery was better.
Malaysia From United States, joined Nov 1999, 2656 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (9 months 3 hours ago) and read 11886 times:
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 5): These elegant colors should have NEVER!!!!!!!! been changed
I loved those colors! seeing the 767s at LAX.
they still look modern and nice, they should reapply the old colors and maybe add some cuves in front or something, the cheatline is a bit classic looking
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Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 7674 posts, RR: 18 Reply 9, posted (9 months 3 hours ago) and read 11832 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 8): These elegant colors should have NEVER!!!!!!!! been changed
Totally agree. They really shot themsleves in the foot with that one.
I recall, at the time they were changed, that the Head of Egyptair was in hot water with the President (of Egypt) over the change of livery, without having consulted him
That said, airlines need to freshen their livery every few years and the entry into STAR marks a new phase in the airline's history.
I've never had the opportunity to fly MS, but I would certainly like to in future.
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 4): what if MS gets the 737-600-
737-666?
So nearly! I think, however, that with MS having ordered the E170 (and seemingly quite pleased with them, given the increased order), that the 190 and 195 are the most likely replacements. I know that MS has taken delivery of the 738, but I still think that the E190/195 would be a better choice. Devillish bad luck for the 737, but there you go !!!
Here's to a bright future for MS ...
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MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 723 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11524 times:
Quoting Kaitak (Reply 9): That said, airlines need to freshen their livery every few years and the entry into STAR marks a new phase in the airline's history.
The current livery is not that old , it was introduced on or about 1995 . But i guess , as you pointed out , they wanted to introduce a new livery coinciding with officially joining Star Alliance marking a big milestone in the Airline's History .
US330 From United States, joined Aug 2000, 2476 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11489 times:
I'm kind of partial to the first one, although I think they should move the boat like design to a cheatline style.
The second one is basically PIA only a color change
I actually dont think the livery will be going to any of those directions.
I could deffinetley see some gold like gulf air, along with blue and the horus sign. Were living the 21st century, liveries are getting color and depth by shading, so id like to see a version like that in alivery.
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MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 723 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10955 times:
The old livery was fine , but the problem is , the red and gold lines along the fuselage was too 70's .
On a side note , Rolls-Royce has agreed to establish a jointly-owned management services company in Cairo. It will provide EgyptAir with support for its new engine workshop, as well as data management, and technical and logistics services for engines, including the Trent 700 and V2500.
Abdel Aziz Fadel, Chairman and CEO of EgyptAir M&E said: "Our experience with the existing fleet of Trent 700-powered A330s has been excellent and we have been especially impressed with the engine’s performance in the hot, sandy conditions we operate in at Cairo. Rolls-Royce has shown it is sensitive to our in-service support needs and we are delighted to be extending our existing relationship with the company through its involvement in our maintenance and overhaul facility."
MIAMIx707 From Cuba, joined Oct 2003, 4619 posts, RR: 31 Reply 15, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10860 times:
Quoting Owleye (Reply 12): Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 5):
These elegant colors should have NEVER!!!!!!!! been changed
100% agree. The current livery was a shame and an insult over the previous livery. Sometimes I wonder how those decissions ever could be made...
By marketing folks with no clue. Did you guys at Lila offer any design alternatives to TAP Portugal before they made a choice? Man, I can't stand that "Jello" livery they adopted. I thought that one was a bad insult to good taste.
funny I had in mind the A300 to illustrate the old scheme of Eyptair, just found a pic of the A340 first
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NYCFlyer From United States, joined Jan 2005, 1253 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10780 times:
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 1): There is also a TR on the net of a MS 735 flight, the outside looked a bit tired and dated but he said the inside was comfy? go figure?
I used to live in Egypt and flew MS a lot. The 735s were/are the worst of the fleet, very old and they show it. The 738s are great, though.
OwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 543 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10645 times:
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 15): By marketing folks with no clue. Did you guys at Lila offer any design alternatives to TAP Portugal before they made a choice? Man, I can't stand that "Jello" livery they adopted. I thought that one was a bad insult to good taste.
funny I had in mind the A300 to illustrate the old scheme of Eyptair, just found a pic of the A340 first
About TAP latest livery. Mmmm, indeed when that livery appeared on the market we really had to get used to it but now we are used to it we like that livery more and more: just because its nice colours and it's very distinctive design. Ofcourse there are some details which should have worked out better.
Quoting SXDFC (Reply 16): Maybe Lila will be contracted to do this new MS livery?
MSYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 723 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10453 times:
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 17): I used to live in Egypt and flew MS a lot. The 735s were/are the worst of the fleet, very old and they show it. The 738s are great, though.
Do you remember which B735 you were on ? I flew on SU-GBJ last year , and although it looked old from the outside ( it is 17 years old ) but it was very nice and spotless from the inside with very generous leg room , comfortable seats and a very efficient air conditioning .
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