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Early 777-200 To Be Broken-Up For The First Time  
User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 31881 times:

A Boeing 777 is heading for the breaker’s yard for the first time, just 11 years after the twinjet first entered service.

Memphis-based Universal Asset Management says it has acquired a General Electric GE90-90B-powered 777-200 (MSN 27109) - the nineteenth aircraft off the line - for disassembly...


http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...+broken+up+for+the+first+time.html



[Edited 2006-11-15 10:42:32]

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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 31705 times:

I think it was this one on which I flew LIS-GRU last year. Strange idea.... Especially since the aircraft wasn't old at all, and there are much older aircraft still flying happily! But somebody must have added things up and come to this conclusion, no doubt.


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User currently offlineArniePie From Belgium, joined Aug 2005, 885 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 31622 times:

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 2):
Especially since the aircraft wasn't old at all, and there are much older aircraft still flying happily

Maybe it's most valuable parts have still enough time on them to have a big enough value for the second hand market.
They'll probably make some good money taking it apart and sell everything separately.

In the end it all comes down to money, still sad to see such a beautifull and still usefull plane go.

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 31610 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Thread starter):
Memphis-based Universal Asset Management says it has acquired a General Electric GE90-90B-powered 777-200 (MSN 27109) - the nineteenth aircraft off the line - for disassembly...

They must be wrong about the engines, this aircraft is an A market aircraft and would have been powered by GE90-76B engines. I suspect that these early A-market aircraft are difficult to resell as they would be difficult for most airlines to easily integrate into an existing 777 fleet.


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 1258 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 31564 times:

We have DC-8's,MD-80's (Mad dogs),MD-11's,B732's flying in our skys today and a 11 year old B772 is heading for the recyclying bin???

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User currently offlineVivaGunners From Italy, joined Oct 2000, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31424 times:

That's hard to take, but on the other hand it is a reasonable choice.
This 772 has been sitting in a bad condition since it was WFU by Varig some months ago, I think some Brazilian members could confirm this. Some parts were already taken out of it and probably it would be more expensive to put it back in service than the value of its components on the second hand market. Also, it is a 11-year-old non-ER model, who could possibly buy it and fix it? Given all that it must not be a very attractive plane as of now, which is sad to say about a 777 anyway.  Sad


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User currently offlineLauda 777 From Sweden, joined May 1999, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31419 times:

Really nice bird.. Sorry to se it go.  Sad


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User currently offlineCandid76 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 542 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31218 times:

This frame has spent much of its time stored since it left British Airways, its original operator. Can't have that many hours/cycles?

Surely these A-market aircraft are prime candidates for freighter conversion should somebody launch a programme?

User currently offlineRJ111 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2004, 2704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31189 times:

This is an ex-BA bird. One of only three GE 77As ever produced. Undoubtably the least desirable of all the 777/engine combinations. AFAIK It has GE90-76Bs too, not -90Bs.


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User currently offlineManny From United States, joined Sep 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31181 times:

I am sure it made economic sense. Nevertheless its surprising to see an A/C stripped after only 11 years.

This A/C was registered PP-VRD with Varig.

I wonder whats happening with sister ship PP-VRC which was in pretty much the same configuration & condition.

User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31161 times:

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 8):
Surely these A-market aircraft are prime candidates for freighter conversion should somebody launch a programme?

Actually the A markets are the least likely candidates for frieghter conversion due to their very low payload capabilities. This particular aircraft has a MTOW of 247 tonnes, the actual frieghters offered by Boeing can lift nearly 100 tonnes more!


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User currently offlineGWYIRE From Ireland, joined Sep 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 31132 times:

What does 'A-Market' mean?

User currently offlineManny From United States, joined Sep 2006, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 31097 times:

Quoting Geo772 (Reply 11):
Actually the A markets are the least likely candidates for frieghter conversion due to their very low payload capabilities. This particular aircraft has a MTOW of 247 tonnes, the actual frieghters offered by Boeing can lift nearly 100 tonnes more!

Yeah, but a package carrier could still use it.

The main reason why this A/C is being stripped down is the bad condition it is in. The ecomomics of putting it back in service must have been high to a point, where it was just more beneficial to strip it down. Its the same reason why after an accident cars get totaled, even when they can be repaired and put back into service.

User currently offlineRJ111 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2004, 2704 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 31017 times:

Quoting Manny (Reply 13):
The main reason why this A/C is being stripped down is the bad condition it is in.

It's not quite a write off like you imply. It's probably due a D-check - which is expensive no matter what the conditions are in. There's a lot of money in spare parts, so they've probably concluded that the money which could be made from scrapping it, is worth more than its value as an airliner minus the cost of a D-check.

[Edited 2006-11-15 13:17:38]


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User currently offline777STL From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2010 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30972 times:

Does anyone else even operate an A-Market GE90 T7?

User currently offlineAirfinair From United States, joined Dec 1999, 603 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30909 times:

To confirm, has this aircraft already flown to the US or is still in Brazil? How many RG 777's are left in Brazil?


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User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30909 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 15):

BA operates three of them.


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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 5404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30810 times:

I was thinking actually when the two ex-Varig 777-236 were ferried to the desert a few weeks ago wether Boeing might snap one to break it up to check fatigue as they did in the late 80s with the first 747 broken up (an high-cycle ex-JAL 747-SR).
But this is really a surprise. 11 years is nothing, especially if taken into account that this aircraft has spend more than 1 1/2 years in storage inbetween already, so actually flying for just about 9 (!) years. Thats a massive depreciation the owner suffered on this bird.

User currently offlinePsimpson From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30798 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Thread starter):
Early 777-200 To Be Broken-Up For The First Time

Very sad to learn this,
the outside of this B777 aircraft looks in good shape, so it does seem odd that it is being broken up, especially after less than 11 years in active airline service.
However i would think that it being a non ER model, the used market is not so strong hence it is more economical to strip the frame of useful parts.

User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 844 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 30796 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 14):
Does anyone else even operate an A-Market GE90 T7?

I believe China Southern also ops GE90 powered 772As


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User currently offlineJAM747 From United States, joined Feb 2005, 550 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 30551 times:

Quoting Manny (Reply 12):
The main reason why this A/C is being stripped down is the bad condition it is in

I have noticed it has been mentioned before that a few of Varig 777s are in bad shape. How come they some these birds are in such shape?

User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States, joined Jun 2006, 6988 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 30476 times:

It wouldn't surprise me. If no customer wants it, then its better to bust it and sell off the parts for other a/c.

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User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 30435 times:

It must have been in very poor condition and required a lot of repair/overhaul work to go to the boneyard.


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