777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1790 posts, RR: 2 Posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1134 times:
I've wanted to post this question for some time but have always forgotten to do so:
My family and I had the fortune to make the trek from cold ORD to sunny and warm HNL for the holidays from about 1982-1988. We were equally as lucky to fly UA's ORD-HNL nonstops (then flights 41 and 42, IIRC) on a B741 or 742.
I seem to recall at least one of the aircraft bearing the name of an aviator on on the both sides of the aircraft, just below and slightly to the front of the cockpit. One of the names that I remember quite clearly was "William D. Patterson". I'm assuming it was the individual honored on this link: http://www.history.noaa.gov/cgsbios/biop4.html
I was wondering if this is correct and if anyone can recall any other UA 741s or 742s that paid tribute to famous pilots of the past...
777fan
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777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1790 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1115 times:
Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 1): I'm pretty sure it would have been for William A. Patterson, former President, Chairman of the Board, and CEO of United from 1934 to 1966...
Ah yes, that would probably make more sense! You'll have to forgive my inability to remember the exact initials! Huge difference in William A. and William D.!!!
Are there any pics out there?
777fan
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke
Isitsafenow From United States, joined Feb 2004, 3812 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1052 times:
It goes back to the DC 8's. UA had names on some of the first ones delivered to them. Pat Patterson had the second or third if I recall.
The first DC 8 was named the R. A. Freng or something like that. I had a large color picture of it but not sure where it is now.
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777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1790 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1040 times:
Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 5): It goes back to the DC 8's. UA had names on some of the first ones delivered to them. Pat Patterson had the second or third if I recall.
Interesting. It'd be cool to see them do that again but I can't imagine any of the current board members get their names on anything! Even if they did, I'd be willing to bet that there'd be some po'd employees!
Maybe they'd consider naming an aircraft each month after the "pilot of the month", "mechanic of the month", "FA of the month", etc. That might be a nice way to boost morale. While it'd be a tough thing to emulate at a commercial airline, I've heard that the crew chiefs and pilots of USAF fighter aircraft often have their names painted on the side of the aircraft. I would assume that it boosts morale by giving them a sense of "ownership".
777fan
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke
N174UA From United States, joined Jun 2006, 873 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 989 times:
Quoting 777fan (Reply 6): Interesting. It'd be cool to see them do that again but I can't imagine any of the current board members get their names on anything! Even if they did, I'd be willing to bet that there'd be some po'd employees!
Some customers had their names on planes for a while, as did some employees.
Quoting 777fan (Reply 6): Maybe they'd consider naming an aircraft each month after the "pilot of the month", "mechanic of the month", "FA of the month", etc. That might be a nice way to boost morale. While it'd be a tough thing to emulate at a commercial airline, I've heard that the crew chiefs and pilots of USAF fighter aircraft often have their names painted on the side of the aircraft. I would assume that it boosts morale by giving them a sense of "ownership".
Personally, and I don't think this will ever happen, but name a plane for each person (pax and crew) lost on #175 and #93.
Magyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Quoting 777fan (Thread starter): I seem to recall at least one of the aircraft bearing the name of an aviator on on the both sides of the aircraft, just below and slightly to the front of the cockpit. One of the names that I remember quite clearly was "William D. Patterson".
At that time, UA had a few B747-122s with names on. It was well before the Customer and Employees naming.
N4703U "William M Allen"
N4711U "Charles F McEarlean"
N4712U "The Original Eight"
N4714U "Justin Dart"
N4717U "Edward E Carlson"
N4718U "Thomas F Gleed"
N4719U "Friendship Japan"
N4720U "William A Patterson"
N4723U "William A Patterson"
N4727U "Robert E Johnson"
N4728U "Gardner Cowles"
HPAEAA From United States, joined May 2006, 951 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 820 times:
How does UA name their a/c? I know at MQ they have a dedication program for employees that go above and beyond.... there are plaques right as you enter..
MakeMinesLAX From United States, joined Dec 2003, 411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 722 times:
Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 9): N4703U "William M Allen"
N4711U "Charles F McEarlean"
N4712U "The Original Eight"
N4714U "Justin Dart"
N4717U "Edward E Carlson"
N4718U "Thomas F Gleed"
N4719U "Friendship Japan"
N4720U "William A Patterson"
N4723U "William A Patterson"
N4727U "Robert E Johnson"
N4728U "Gardner Cowles"
I'm sure the double "Patterson" is a typo - his name was on N4723U only.
Here are some non-747s from way back:
727-22 N7049U - Friendship Sweden
727-222A N7255U - City of Cleveland (suspect - appears in only one list)
727-222A N7280U - Leon D. Cuddeback
727-222A N7444U - City of Cleveland (more likely - appears in two lists)
767-222 N606UA - City of Chicago
767-222 N607UA - City of Denver
DC-8-21 N8001U - Warren Burke
DC-8-21 N8003U - Capt. R. J. Johnson
DC-8-21 N8004U - Capt. R. T. Freng
DC-8-21 N8005U - Capt. W. D. Williams
DC-8-21 N8006U - Capt. R. L. Dobie
DC-8-21 N8012U - J. A. Herlihy
DC-8-21 N8018U - Wm. A Patterson (again, pre-dating 747 obviously)
DC-8-21 N8019U - W. E. Rhoades
DC-8-21 N8021U - W. C. Mentzer
DC-8-21 N8022U - Wm. B. Stout
DC-8-21 N8023U - Hana-Maui
DC-8-21 N8024U - Hilo
DC-8-21 N8025U - Annie Johnson
DC-8-21 N8026U - Oahu
DC-8-21 N8027U - Kauai
DC-8-21 N8028U - Waipahu
DC-8-21 N8029U - J. H. Doolittle
DC-8-51 N8007U - Capt. Harry Huking
DC-8-51 N8008U - Capt. R. L. Wagner
DC-8-51 N8009U - Capt. Geo Douglass
DC-8-51 N8010U - Donald Douglas Sr.
DC-8-61 N8070U - Capt. R. D. Petty
DC-8-61 N8073U - Eric A. Johnston
DC-8-62 N8967U - Harold Carry
DC-8-62 N8970U - Hilo Hattie
DC-10-10 N1804U - Curtis Barkes
As well, nearly all of the 737s carried names of cities when in the old livery (i.e. pre-Saul Bass). This has been covered before.
777fan From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1790 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 712 times:
The Hilo Hattie DC-8-62 is hysterical, especially considering they provide UA with prizes for the "Halfway to Hawaii" game these days. I'm surprised that the practice hasn't continued on...
777fan
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke
JohnClipper From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Aug 2005, 386 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 680 times:
N401UA A320-232 Alan Temple - Employee
N402UA A320-232 Telma Aloni - Employee
N403UA A320-232 Hiroko Fujishima - Employee
N404UA A320-232 Maria Karla Gozum - Employee
N405UA A320-232 John P. Maori, Sr. - Customer
N406UA A320-232 J. Rex Pippin - Customer
N407UA A320-232 Jeff Mandelbaum - Customer
N408UA A320-232 Peter C. Bond - Customer
N409UA A320-232 Bob Young - Customer
N410UA A320-232 C. Nicholas Keating, Jr. - Customer
N411UA A320-232 Ikaz Imai - Customer
N412UA A320-232 Robert Thomas - Customer
N413UA A320-232 Geoff Wild - Customer
N414UA A320-232 Toshi K. Funaki - Customer
N415UA A320-232 Ronald A. Schy - Customer
N416UA A320-232 Timothy L. Devine - Customer
N417UA A320-232 Rickey Wilson - Customer
N418UA A320-232 Scott Setrakian - Customer
N419UA A320-232 M.J. Suhanovsky - Customer
N420UA A320-232 Charles A. Kelley - Customer
N421UA A320-232 Peter A. Dare - Customer
N422UA A320-232 Yale. R. Brown - Customer
N423UA A320-232 Ron Maehl - Customer
N424UA A320-232 Albert G. Brantley - Customer
N425UA A320-232 Howard A. Morgan - Customer
N426UA A320-232 William Yeack - Customer
N427UA A320-232 Dee Groberg - Customer
N428UA A320-232 Albert J. Viscio - Customer
N7001U B727-022 The Spirit of Seattle
N7255U B727-222 Adv. City of Cleveland
N7280U B727-222 Adv. Leon D. Cuddeback
N7444U B727-222 Adv. City of Cleveland
N9001U B737-222 Lehigh Valley
N9002U B737-222 City of Akron
N9003U B737-222 City of Canton
N9004U B737-222 City of Asheville
N9006U B737-222 City of Bakersfield
N9007U B737-222 City of Birmingham
N9008U B737-222 City of Boise
N9009U B737-222 City of Kingsport
N9010U B737-222 City of Buffalo
N9011U B737-222 City of Cedar Rapids
N9012U B737-222 City of Charleston
N9013U B737-222 City of Charlotte
N9014U B737-222 City of Chattanooga
N9015U B737-222 City of Columbus
N9016U B737-222 City of Dayton
N9017U B737-222 City of Des Moines
N9018U B737-222 City of Eugene
N9019U B737-222 City of Flint
N9022U B737-222 City of Grand Rapids
N9023U B737-222 Cities of Greensboro, High Point & Winston-Salem
N9024U B737-222 City of Hartford
N9027U B737-222 City of Kansas City
N9030U B737-222 City of Las Vegas
N9032U B737-222 City of Medford
N9033U B737-222 City of Memphis
N9038U B737-222 City of Mobile
N9039U B737-222 City of Modesto
N9040U B737-222 Quad-Cities
N9044U B737-222 City of Newport News
N9045U B737-222 City of Norfolk
N9051U B737-222 City of Reno
N9052U B737-222 City of Richmond
N9054U B737-222 City of Sacramento
N9057U B737-222 City of Salt Lake City
N9060U B737-222 City of Santa Barbara
N9061U B737-222 City of Tacoma
N9063U B737-222 City of South Bend
N9066U B737-222 City of Spokane
N9067U B737-222 City of Stockton
N9068U B737-222 City of Tampa
N9069U B737-222 City of Toledo
N9070U B737-222 City of Vancouver
N9071U B737-222 City of Visalia
N9072U B737-222 City of West Palm Beach
N957UA B737-522 Capt. Don Merucci
N4714U B747-122 Justin Dart
N4717U B747-122 Edward E. Carlson
N4718U B747-122 Thomas F. Gleed
N4719U B747-122 Friendship Japan
N4720U B747-122 William A. Patterson
N4727U B747-122 Robert E. Johnson
N4728U B747-122 Gardner Cowles
N152UA B747-222B Carolina Y.C. Woo - Customer
N158UA B747-238B E-Ticket Team Employees
N159UA B747-238B Bobbi Phillips - Customer
N160UA B747-238B Harry M. Kubetz - Customer
N161UA B747-238B Michael Stears - Customer
N164UA B747-238B Jhane Barnes - Customer
N165UA B747-238B Daniel J. Terra - Customer
N107UA B747-422 William A. Patterson
N171UA B747-422 Spirit of Seattle II
N174UA B747-422 Mitch Lee - Employee
N175UA B747-422 Gary Gendreau - Employee
N176UA B747-422 Jan Yamamoto - Employee
N178UA B747-422 Joan Kellen - Employee
N180UA B747-422 Edwin D. Fuller - Customer
N189UA B747-422 Herkea Jea - Customer
N190UA B747-422 Franklin S. Young - Customer
N105UA B747-451 Rosa Santana - Employee
N106UA B747-451 Randy Weinacht - Employee
N605UA B767-222 (ER) Bob Rosseau - Customer
N606UA B767-222 (ER) City of Chicago
N607UA B767-222 (ER) City of Denver
N664UA B767-322 (ER) Bill Baxley Jr. - Retired
N672UA B767-322 (ER) John Dooley - Retired
N211UA B777-222 Bill Anderson - Retired
N766UA B777-222 Nancy J. Meyer - Customer
N767UA B777-222 Sam Sotoodeh - Customer
N768UA B777-222 Marcelo Amodeo - Customer
N769UA B777-222 D. Timothy Tammany - Customer
N770UA B777-222 Thomas R. Stuker - Customer
N771UA B777-222 Frank Griffith - Customer
N772UA B777-222 Mary Beth Loesch - Customer
N773UA B777-222 Richard H. Loung - Customer
N774UA B777-222 Greg Milano - Customer
N775UA B777-222 Scott A. Neumayer - Customer
N777UA B777-222 Working Together
N780UA B777-222 Spirit of Adalyn
N225UA B777-222 (ER) Spirit of United
N1804U DC-10-10 Curtis Barkes
N8073U DC-8-71 Eric A. Johnston
MakeMinesLAX From United States, joined Dec 2003, 411 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 513 times:
Quoting Magyarorszag (Reply 16): I sourced my infos from the Jet Production List. With your message, I checked with Aeromoe website and also the photo DB of A.net.
Here is the answer
My sources were JP Airline Fleets books dating from '77 through '85. As you can see, N4720U must have acquired the name in the early '90s:
Also, it featured the abbreviated "Wm", while N4723U had the full "William".
The last photo of 23 in the database is from September 1992, while the first and only one of 20 with the name dates from October 1992. Possibly it was transferred at this time, and additional photographic evidence would be necessary to dete