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Mergers And Current Status Of Airline Economy

7E72004 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 3534 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 488 times:

Just curious...but with the current state of the airlines would it be possible that the Feds would allow airline mergers (such as the one that USAirways and United tried a few years ago) instead of letting the airlines fall? I know that a merger is far fetched right now anyway considering most airlines are still hurting but it was just a thought Big thumbs up

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UnitedTristar From United States, joined May 2004, 868 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 452 times:

Here are my picks as the cookie crumbles-

UA-US
NW-HP
CO-DL
SW-AQ
HA-AS
AA-TW (whoops already happened)
AA-TZ

hehe...Probably not the last pairing but...Fun to think about!

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EAL757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 439 times:

that last post is thought provoking but c'mon let's be honest...given the current state of the industry, for the the most part this would be the result of a merger

Either:
1) the two troubled companies would merge and create matters worse and then fold as one big entity (a US-UA merger 2 years ago would have probably sealed the fate of both had it happened)

or

2) the company in better shape would rape the lesser of it's best assets and routes and probably let most of the employees go....remember DL when it was supposedly going to save Pan Am? How bout AA and TWA--who got furloughed first? Not AA staff! ...and with the exception of the MD-80's and a few 75's, didn't American park most of the TWA planes? ...or sell them off or turn them back in to the leasing companies?

Neither result is desirable so I say merger isn't a good idea
-Jeff

7E72004 From United States, joined Mar 2004, 3534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 434 times:

What about ATA and AirTran? That would give TZ the hub they need Big thumbs up

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AirTran737 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 2991 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 417 times:

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If TZ and FL merged, it would be TZ taking our name, we have money, they don't. It would give us the hub that we need.

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Aa717driver From United States, joined Feb 2002, 1558 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 401 times:

If any airline exec proposed a merger with anyone weaker than their company, they should be fired immediately and never permitted to work in the airline business again! And, if the employees of a smaller airline permit themselves to be "acquired" by a larger one--they get what they deserve.

EAL757--AA is still in possession of roughly 2/3's of TWA's fleet. The 757's will be returned to the lessors in the next few years but the MD80's will be retained. They currently have 28 of 100(out of an original 103--a few of the really oddball -80's were turned in to the lessors) parked in the desert but are pulling them out at the rate of 2 per month--that's the max rate they can convert them.

But you are substantially correct, AA kept the assets, s***canned the employees. It allowed them to replace the 727's and F100's with a common fleet type. It also eliminated a LCC from the heart of the country.TC

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LTBEWR From United States, joined Jan 2004, 8575 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 390 times:

I don't think we will see any major USA airlines merging anytime soon, unless (God forbid) another terror attack happened that so badly affected the airline industry (of if upon it) that there was no alternative to keep a/c flying and to keep the USA's economy from crashing into a depression.

Luv2fly From United States, joined May 2003, 10874 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 357 times:

I agree that for the time being the playing field is what we are going to see. Now that does not mean a few players will no longer be playing on the field. Once a player is gone and the field gets a tad smaller then and only then we will see any kind of a merger per say.

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