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Does Non-rev Make You Nervous?  
User currently offlineNate1879 From United States, joined Jun 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

At this point in life, I have traveled non-revenue so many times that I don't even worry about getting on or not. Keep in mind, I always have many backup plans, and a credit card to purchase a ticket is necessary.

My question to you, do you stress or go with the flow?


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5165 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1295 times:

Depends on the situation and how many options there are and how the other flights look like. Standing at an airport getting for a long-haul flight, being tired and all flights being overbooked doesn't make me very happy at all.


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 3801 posts, RR: 65
Reply 2, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1274 times:
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Quoting Nate1879 (Thread starter):
My question to you, do you stress or go with the flow?

Hey there,

I fly non- rev so often and I don't get stressed anymore. If the flight is full I try to avoid it anyway and if seats are available I am relaxed. Usually I try to pick a flight where seats are available and then I am fine. I just sit at the gate and wait what happens...

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User currently offlineDABZF From Finland, joined Mar 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

I've non-reved so often that it doesn't get me worried anymore... pretty much got used to it by now.

I considered myself lucky being really stuck (several days) only twice!


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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 5892 posts, RR: 71
Reply 4, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
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I've never been bumped off a flight - non-rev or not... so I usually don't even think about the possibility.  Smile


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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2003, 2844 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1241 times:

I've only been bumped off a flight once or twice and I usually get the next flight so I don't really worry too much.

If it looks close the morning of the flight I wont even bother so I don't stress.

User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States, joined Jan 2007, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

Non reving between the hubs makes me nervous. DTW MSP is always full...


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User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1217 times:
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I spend weeks/months even, planning our trips to make sure we are travelling when the flights are wide open. We usually fly non-rev long haul Business Class to our Country of destination, but i book all our internal flights in advance, as regular travellers. Its actually quite an exhausting process checking every possable route to arrive at your destination on time!! So to answer your question.... yes, i do find my nerves a litle frayed to say the least!

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

No I am not nervous ( anymore).  Smile

The only time was at STM ( Santarem Brazil in the middle of the Amazon River) when I was put on Stand-By and only received the last seat.

Since then I do not care anymore, especially as I had to wait 1 1/2 days at GRU and not getting on board 29 times. Big grin

That is an airline employees life. If you take the Stand-By ticket - don“t bitch around if the fligth is full.

Unfortunately many times I have to leave behind a staff I get stupid comments which should not happen. I have offloaded 2 staff myself once for bitching around for not sitting together and shouting around on board. They got a 1 year Non-Rev ban!


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 24942 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

No stress at all.Worst situation is to use the credit card.  Smile
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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 3418 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1082 times:

I already knew how to non rev on a friends buddy pass so when I got hired for SWA I was a non revving pro and my co workers were impressed on how I always managed to get the flight I wanted  Wink

I only got nervous ONCE when one of my LAS-ABQ flight got weight restricted, and it involved the captain and gate agent getting me on board and that's really a long ass story lol.

Alex


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States, joined Dec 2005, 4047 posts, RR: 84
Reply 11, posted (2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1072 times:
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250k mile flyer annually here, majority on non revenue. It use to be a worrisome issue, it's natural now. I do get a rush when I'm called to the desk for a upgraded pass and priority boarding (doesn't always happen).

Quoting Leskova (Reply 4):

Your a lucky guy, Frank!

User currently offlineBoeingATL From United States, joined Jan 2005, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1055 times:
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ok, basic question here. What exactly is a non-rev? I know, non revenue. But what does that mean. How do you get one, or get to be one?


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User currently offlinePetteri From United States, joined Aug 2007, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1052 times:



Quoting BoeingATL (Reply 12):
But what does that mean. How do you get one, or get to be one?

It is a job benefit given to airline employees. You can travel for free or at a very reduced rate. It is on a space available basis. If there are open seats you get a ride! Of course it is a bit more coplicated than that but thats it in a nutshell.


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User currently offline474218 From United States, joined Oct 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1045 times:



Quoting Petteri (Reply 13):
It is a job benefit given to airline employees.

Non-Revenue tickets are not only for airline employees, airline write many non-revenue tickets for non-employees. I was at technical representative, for an OEM, we had an agreement with many of the airlines that operated our aircraft, we would provide on-site technical support if the airline would provide a ticket to get the representative where they were needed. During my twenty years in product support I flew non-revenue over 100 times.

User currently offlinePGNCS From United States, joined Apr 2007, 796 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1040 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 14):
Quoting Petteri (Reply 13):
It is a job benefit given to airline employees.

Non-Revenue tickets are not only for airline employees, airline write many non-revenue tickets for non-employees. I was at technical representative, for an OEM, we had an agreement with many of the airlines that operated our aircraft, we would provide on-site technical support if the airline would provide a ticket to get the representative where they were needed. During my twenty years in product support I flew non-revenue over 100 times.

While technically non-revenue travel, were these Positive Space (NRPS) passes by chance? I have also travelled numerous times doing consulting work on NRPS passes, but they contain none of the uncertainties of NR Space Available (NRSA) flying that this thread is really focused on.

I jumpseat to work, for vacations I buy tickets on my favored carrier so I can avoid the very common spectre of being bumped. My family has extremely limited vacation time together, and it's just worth the cost of the tickets to know we will travel when we need to.

User currently offline474218 From United States, joined Oct 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1036 times:



Quoting PGNCS (Reply 15):
While technically non-revenue travel, were these Positive Space (NRPS) passes by chance?

It depended on the operator, majority were positive space, bumped a Air Canada VP and his wife once, they were going on holiday and my boss and were on our way to teach a class. The ironic part of that is the VP was the person who authorized our passes.

On BW I spent three days one time and two days another, trying to get to a seat to POS and they bumped in Aruba once. Got out of Aruba the next day and on each occasion BW put me up in a hotel. These trips were for coverage during a C-Check. AOG situations they always provided positive space tickets.

One time I was even booked on the Concorde, but couldn't get a flight out of Atlanta to JFK that got me there in time. So I took a BA flight ATL to LGW.

User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States, joined Jul 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1015 times:



Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 6):
DTW MSP is always full...

You must travel during peak/shitty times for nonrevs, haha. I've done DTW-MSP a ton of times now and have never had any problem with it. It's a great route too, you have D93 up through 753 and everything in between.... all at something like 13x-17x daily depending on the day & season.

I don't get nervous on domestic at all. If I get stuck at least it'll be in a place where we share a common language and currency  Big grin

International, on the other hand, still makes me nervous. Some of the CS agents like to toy with you by using their "scare tactics" (lack of a better phrase) by saying there are weight restrictions or something along those lines. So, I tend to get nervous seeing as how on international there are FAR less options to get home - often times just a single flight back home.


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User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States, joined Sep 2003, 1741 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1013 times:
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Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 17):
International, on the other hand, still makes me nervous. Some of the CS agents like to toy with you by using their "scare tactics" (lack of a better phrase) by saying there are weight restrictions or something along those lines. So, I tend to get nervous seeing as how on international there are FAR less options to get home - often times just a single flight back home

transpac,
i do quite alot of non rev travel that involves skywest from den-cos...if i dont my kids do more than i do...the scare tactics that the gate agents in denver use is beyond incredible...the panic button is pushed on every flight out of there at least 2 hrs prior to departure.


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User currently offlineAtlanta From United States, joined Jun 2008, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 981 times:
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No.

My Dad is a ret. DL capt.

On April 25 I tried to non-rev on DL BOS-TPA but the flight was full so I flew

BOS-LGA-DCA-ATL-TPA (overnight at my house in Atlanta)

On April 18 the same thing TPA-ATL-DCA-LGA-BOS

I need to post that trip report!!!

Atlanta


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User currently offlineNate1879 From United States, joined Jun 2008, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 946 times:

Thank you for replying everyone.

My "favorite" NRSA trip was a few years ago. I was planning a trip to NYC to visit some college friends for a housewarming party. I started out early, as I always do, from TYS-CLT on CR2 in Y.

It started looking ugly from there.

CLT-PIT on 734 in Y, PIT-PHL on 733 in F, PHL-DCA on 320 in Y. Got on a shuttle flight from DCA-LGA and we were put in the penalty box due to weather in NYC. After an hour and a half many people started asking the FA if they could get off. The captain came on and said that we would hurry back to the gate, and anyone wishing to get off had 5 minutes! I gave up at this point (so did 3/4 of the plane). Everyone was running for the train, which didn't excite me. I was tired and decide I should cut my loses, and decided to return home. DCA-CLT on 733 in F and CLT-TYS on DH8 in Y. 14 hours later I had visited every hub and focus city in US East, but no NYC. This was a random Tuesday to boot!


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