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Staying On The Centerline During T/O.  
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 3913 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 942 times:

How do you guys stay on the centerline during T/O? I can never get my wheels right, and always veer either to the right or to the left during T/O
-Mr. X


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 939 times:

Have you recalibrated your joystick/yoke also do you have a crosswind?

Rgds --James--


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User currently offlinePJFlysFast From United States, joined May 2006, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 933 times:
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With the power of the engines it can make it difficult to stay centerd on the runway. This force is called torque. With jets it always turns left when you use thrust so to counter that force you need to us right rudder. Make very light rudder movements on takeoff though! In prop aircraft it caused by prop rotation and in single engined aircraft it is also caused by the prop wash that goes over the fuselage and hits the rudder. Straighten up and fly right!

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 3913 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 928 times:

I actually use a keyboard, I think that's the root of my problems.
I will try counteracting with the rudder, thanks!
-Mr. X


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User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 920 times:

Get yourself a joystick, a Saitek ST290 PRO isn't expensive and will make simming so much more realistic.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 899 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 3):
I actually use a keyboard, I think that's the root of my problems.
I will try counteracting with the rudder, thanks!

I'm a keyboard flyer myself as well. Keeping straight on the centerline is fairly easy:

-Once you're lined up, press the "5" on your number pad, now your nose wheels are straight.

-Apply t/o power, and as you slowly build up speed, correct your direction with the use of the left or right arrow keys on your keyboard.

-After every correction you are satisfied with, press the "5" on your number pad.

-Keep practicing.


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User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 868 times:

This is one of the worst non realistic things of FS.. I go hood with it and engage AP with the runway heading.  Smile

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 3913 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 720 times:

I did that when taxiing once, the result wasn't pretty.. American Pacific would have fired me  Smile
-Mr. X


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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 685 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 7):
I did that when taxiing once, the result wasn't pretty.. American Pacific would have fired me

When you are taxiing, use the same tips that I gave you in reply 5. Just make sure your speed doesn't get too high.


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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 666 times:

TBH if your still having trouble just go out and buy yourseld a little cheapy joystick and use that till you've got the funds to buy a decent one!

Rgds --James--

BTW ive got a saitek cyborg EVO and thats awesome, its simple to use also


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 665 times:

Quoting Delboy (Reply 4):
Get yourself a joystick



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 9):
go out and buy yourseld a little cheapy joystick

Yup, get a joystick!  Smile


... but I may be wrong
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 23 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 663 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 10):
Yup, get a joystick!

But don't go for the cheap one, or you will regret it later.. buy a good solid one from microsoft. Sidewinder is the best! :P I have a logitech wireless joystick which is okay. I've had cheaper joysticks earlier which didn't last for more than a few months. Then they started to make the plane do right turns all the time and I had to compensate by pulling a little to the left, even after I tried reconfiguring the joystick

User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 661 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 11):
But don't go for the cheap one,

I just said that because he made it sound as if he hasnt got the funds for a decent one at the moment so atleast with a CnC one he can atleast make the simulation that more well simulated!

Rgds ---James--


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 23 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 661 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 12):
I just said that because he made it sound as if he hasnt got the funds for a decent one at the moment so atleast with a CnC one he can atleast make the simulation that more well simulated!

Oh okay.. but I'd rather save some money for a decent one then

User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 660 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13):
Oh okay.. but I'd rather save some money for a decent one then

Yes but you can get a Cnc one for about a £10 and it has the throttle lever built in aswell!

Rgds --James--


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 23 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 660 times:

Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 14):

Yes but you can get a Cnc one for about a £10 and it has the throttle lever built in aswell!

Also 3 axes?

User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 655 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 15):

I dunno i guess so just from looking at it!

Rgds --James--


You cant have your cake and eat it... What the hells the point in having it then!!!
User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States, joined Jul 2001, 3913 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 628 times:

I might have to pick up a Sidewinder with Force Feedback.. Time to save some cash.
-Mr. X


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User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 23 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 626 times:

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 17):
a Sidewinder with Force Feedback

 checkmark Best joystick out there IMO!

User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 617 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 13):
Oh okay.. but I'd rather save some money for a decent one then

Agreed but I still think a cheap joystick will be better than trying to fly with the keyboard!

Regarding the twist-grip rudder/steering, I just can't bank without twisting the stick a bit. I ended up disabling that axis and buying rudder pedals.  Smile


... but I may be wrong
User currently offlinePJFlysFast From United States, joined May 2006, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 601 times:
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You should get a joystick or yoke. It Would make your flight simming exprience so much more enjoyable and realistic!

User currently offlineCptSpeaking From United States, joined Apr 2006, 557 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 561 times:

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 2):
This force is called torque. With jets it always turns left when you use thrust so to counter that force you need to us right rudder. Make very light rudder movements on takeoff though! In prop aircraft it caused by prop rotation and in single engined aircraft it is also caused by the prop wash that goes over the fuselage and hits the rudder. Straighten up and fly right!

I hope you meant props...jets don't have a torque effect. The turning prop is the action and the left-turn is the reaction, one of those laws some guy named Newton came up with  Wink

If you are flying a prop in FS, you can choose to turn off the torque effect as well as the p-factor (two of three left-turning tendencies) in the realism menu. This might help you a bit if you don't have a joystick, but as others have said, a joystick is what you really need to get if you own any flightsim. You can get a really good one for $35 or so. I fly with one I got for $30 discounted, have had it for 2 years and it still works like a champ!

Safe flying and stay on that runway!!  Wink

Your CptSpeaking


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User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 534 times:

I've had my little Saitek for nearly two years and it's good enough for the job. About £20 GBP, which is not a fortune in the FS world, quite a few programable switches, twist handle for steering, built in throttle etc etc. Go on, treat yourself!!