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Brakes Force Control In FSX (except Autobrakes)

AcroAirFun From Poland, joined Feb 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

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I have some add-ons for FSX (like Wilco Embraer Legacy), which simulate brake heating. After landing I always have a warning on EICAS "Brakes overheat". Is it possible to control braking force?

Even 747 loves to have some fun!

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WILCO737 From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 4446 posts, RR: 68
Reply 1, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

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Quoting AcroAirFun (Thread starter):

Maybe use more reverse thrust instead of applying full brakes... Or start braking at lower speeds! To control the brake force is not really possible in FS! I usually use the autobrake, and then full reverse thrust. THen usually you are fine...

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UltimateDelta From United States, joined Sep 2007, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

You definitely should try using thrust reverse. The key command is F2. The spoilers will help a little bit, too.

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AcroAirFun From Poland, joined Feb 2007, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1298 times:

I always use thrust reverser and spoilers, but I have brake overheat anyway.

Even 747 loves to have some fun!

David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
To control the brake force is not really possible in FS!

Unless you have decent rudder pedals - CH, in my case. Smile

... but I may be wrong

WILCO737 From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 4446 posts, RR: 68
Reply 5, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

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Quoting David L (Reply 4):
Unless you have decent rudder pedals - CH, in my case. Smile

I dont have them Wink

I use my REAL rudder pedals in my MD11F duck

And I never got brake overheat there although we were a few times pretty close! in summertime 45°C heavy aircraft... then the brakes get a little warmer even with full reverse thrust Big grin

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David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
I dont have them I use my REAL rudder pedals in my MD11F

And, to add insult to injury, you get paid for it, too. grumpy

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 5):
And I never got brake overheat there although we were a few times pretty close!

If the keyboard-braking is maximum manual braking, we've seen from the many threads in Tech/Ops how much more force there is compared to maximum auto-braking. SlamClick's post about landing a 737 on a 1500 ft runway is a classic. Smile

... but I may be wrong

WILCO737 From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 4446 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

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Quoting David L (Reply 6):
SlamClick's post about landing a 737 on a 1500 ft runway is a classic.

Thats easy Big grin

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David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 7):

And how did you explain that one to your employers? "Whoops! Thought it was Frankfurt. My bad!". biggrin

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WILCO737 From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 4446 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1251 times:

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Quoting David L (Reply 8):
And how did you explain that one to your employers? "Whoops! Thought it was Frankfurt. My bad!". biggrin

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PJFlysFast From United States, joined May 2006, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1243 times:

First thing you should know is that the two most abused things on an aircraft are the tires and the brakes. Your breaks get hotter while you use them during taxi because air is not flowing over them and stuff like that. When the breaks get hot they do not work as well just like in a car so what some pilots will do is have one engine in idle and the other in reverse at idle, that way it keeps it under a controlled speed and you dont need to use your brakes as much. During landing just use your thrust reverse as normal and add braking as necessary depending on the runway and so on.

David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7430 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 10):
Your breaks get hotter while you use them during taxi because air is not flowing over them

Quoting PJFlysFast (Reply 10):
so what some pilots will do is have one engine in idle and the other in reverse at idle,

True on some smaller aircraft, like the one in the OP perhaps, but not on the larger commercial airliners - a big no-no, as far as I'm aware.

... but I may be wrong

UltimateDelta From United States, joined Sep 2007, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

Quoting AcroAirFun (Reply 3):

Maybe you could try using the brakes only in short spurts. That's what I always do, and I never have any trouble.

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